The Most Disappointing Pitt Team In Recent Memory

[str61166]

Common sense said that losing Bub and Hinson meant the path to being close to last year's time, once it found its stride, would have to involve Amsal and Cohren being very good players. Well, not so much.

Along with an assumption along those lines, it also assumed Lowe and Leggett would improve. And if you look at most stats, it would seem like they have. But watching these games, they just haven’t been winning players. And it’s a shame, because both guys had their moments in big wins last year, like Jaland at Duke, Ish against Wake. Just doesn’t seem like these new roles for them and their supporting cast (namely not having an 3 pt assassin in Blake, and Bub) are working out.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Along with an assumption along those lines, it also assumed Lowe and Leggett would improve. And if you look at most stats, it would seem like they have. But watching these games, they just haven’t been winning players. And it’s a shame, because both guys had their moments in big wins last year, like Jaland at Duke, Ish against Wake. Just doesn’t seem like these new roles for them and their supporting cast (namely not having an 3 pt assassin in Blake, and Bub) are working out.

Lowe doesn't strike me as a leader at all. He is the dude whose dad rides him to the games in a Cadillac to meet up with the rest of the team who arrived via bus. I never see him communicating with/rallying/getting up in the faces of his teammates, etc. Just feels like he's kind of doing his own thing and this whole team thing is simply a means to an end.

 

[Baddest Cat]

Isn’t that a good thing ?
That loyal fans feel ownership of their seats ?

Let me ask you this question-
Do you think donation levels for basketball are higher now than prior to the last reseat ?’

Buddy - you’re selling a bad idea.
Kansas , UNC, and Duke aren’t reshuffling their loyal fans regularly - since im
Friends with season ticket holders for all 3.

Agree.

Let's also look at it another way. Which do you think will be larger? The amount Pitt has received/will receive in ad-hoc, pre-reseat donations, or the amount of season ticket revenue lost when more of the few remaining core fans throw their hands up and say "eff it"?

At the end of the day I know I'll have good seats regardless. But even if I have to move a couple of rows or a couple of seats in from the aisle, it's going to piss me off and not make me feel like the loyal customer that I am.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Agree.

Let's also look at it another way. Which do you think will be larger? The amount Pitt has received/will receive in ad-hoc, pre-reseat donations, or the amount of season ticket revenue lost when more of the few remaining core fans throw their hands up and say "eff it"?

At the end of the day I know I'll have good seats regardless. But even if I have to move a couple of rows or a couple of seats in from the aisle, it's going to piss me off and not make me feel like the loyal customer that I am.

Further demoralizing a fanbase is demoralized-
Seems counter productive

I don’t have season hoops tickets - because there are just too many games and my kid has enough activities

 

[CrazyPaco]

Isn’t that a good thing ?
That loyal fans feel ownership of their seats ?

Let me ask you this question-
Do you think donation levels for basketball are higher now than prior to the last reseat ?’

Buddy - you’re selling a bad idea.
Kansas , UNC, and Duke aren’t reshuffling their loyal fans regularly - since im
Friends with season ticket holders for all 3.

Kansas is reseating this year: https://kuathletics.com/feature/PSD...c0&aid=16092&pid=kansas_email_eloqua&rid=2898

Duke website says the following: "5. All seats in Cameron are subject to annual evaluation and/or reassignment based on Iron Dukes priority and availability." It is also a $8K donation per pair of tickets for any seat at Cameron and you have to commit to that for 3 years, on top of the price of the season tickets: https://indd.adobe.com/view/7e4b1366-cce5-40bd-bf70-a3cf57c484f3

Pitt is super cheap in comparison.

So no, in my opinion, it is not a good thing if people feel they own their seats. Why would anyone feel they own something? It's not hard at Pitt to keep your seats.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Kansas is reseating this year: https://kuathletics.com/feature/PSD...c0&aid=16092&pid=kansas_email_eloqua&rid=2898

Duke: It is a $4K donation per ticket for any seat at Cameron and you have to commit to that for 3 years: https://indd.adobe.com/view/7e4b1366-cce5-40bd-bf70-a3cf57c484f3

So no, in my opinion, it is not a good thing if people feel they own their seats. Why would anyone feel that way?

Because in pro sports, you do own your seat after paying the one-time seat license.

 

[CrazyPaco]

It's very hard to have re-seating when few people are there to re-seat. After this season, more people will drop their season's tickets.

I'm waiting to see what The Zoo looks like later this year and into next year.

Right, they aren't dropping it because of a reseat. They are dropping because the program is disappointing.

People worried about reseating largely aren't in premium seating. If someone wants to drop 100K for floor seats, great, go get them. Pitt needs that cash. There isn't going to be some glut of big money people looking to come in and scoop up non-premium seats, or even premium seats for that matter. I don't get the angst at all.

The ownership mentality frankly bewilders me. If someone wants to pay more than I am willing for my seats, I'm happy to be moved back. I don't feel that I own jack, or am owed jack, and I've had season tickets every year the Pete has been open and have a varsity letter from the basketball team.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Right, they aren't dropping it because of a reseat. They are dropping because the program is disappointing. People worried about reseating largely aren't in premium seating. There isn't going to be a glut of big money people looking to come in and scoop up non-premium seats.

Exactly. I and my group don't care about the re-seating that much. We do care that this team is and has been disappointing and has not met expectations, and are evaluating based only on that criteria.