The two teams that played in the B1G championship game...
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The scariest thing is the teams Pitt lost to on their schedule have all been aniahilated except for Miami. Iowa, ND, and UNC all were smoked. Miami made it close at the end, but still lost.
["dionlewis28, post: 698765, member: 5284"]The scariest thing is the teams Pitt lost to on their schedule have all been aniahilated except for Miami. Iowa, ND, and UNC all were smoked. Miami made it close at the end, but still lost.
Happy New Year Dion, you make a great point, and Pitt played them better than they played other the Teams, and Penn State was even worse against their losses to MSU, OSU, and Michigan, plus Temple lost its Bowl Game, but beat Penn State too!!!
At least Pitt's Narduzzi gave Pitt Team Losses great and close games, unlike Franklin's Coaching!!!!
Happy New Year Dion, you make a great point, and Pitt played them better than they played other the Teams, and Penn State was even worse against their losses to MSU, OSU, and Michigan, plus Temple lost its Bowl Game, but beat Penn State too!!!
At least Pitt's Narduzzi gave Pitt Team Losses great and close games, unlike Franklin's Coaching!!!!
Sorry captain not sure I agree. I left all the Pitt games at halftime, because they were over. I think every game was a 3 score game by halftime. Penn State put up a lot of yards against OSU and MSU, but no points...definite blowouts tho. Michigan was close until the end I believe
Your lions lost to three teams that were blown out in their bowl game... Temple, Northwestern, MSU.
Ps... now the Lions have only played 3 ranked teams... because neither Temple nor NW will be ranked in the final poll. Pitt lost to 4 ranked teams.
Northwestern will not drop 13 spots out of top 25. Temple will drop out. San Diego St. Will most likely enter top 25. Currently 28th and beat Cincinnati 42-7.
The cream of the ACC was real impressive too. UNC and FSU were just spectacular. Clemson will have to wait a week for its trip to the woodshed but I am looking forward to it. The Vegas line keeps going up, I may be coming back to your 10 poor offer after all
You're the guy who likes to cite individual game results from earlier in the season as though they were determinative of the outcome of these bowl games, right? Well Northwestern pimp slapped Stanford in the opener, right? But then NWU was destroyed by Iowa. Michigan State beat OSU at the Shoe and beat Iowa in the champ game. Yet OSU boat raced ND, which missed a 2 point conversion to tie Clemson in Death Valley. The. MSU gets absolutely destroyed by Bama last night.
So here we are with Stanford rolling Iowa, the team that crushed NWU, which was the team that crushed Stanford.. Using your data and hypothesis, how could such things be possible?
OMG you guys are arguing about who had the best losses!It doesn't matter 40 or 4 a loss is a loss.Match ups often determine low bad a loss is.Sometimes certain things happen that make blowouts look closer than the score indictes!But if your a coach there isn't such a thing as a good loss.
All 3 Programs as stated all year have more work to do to beat Top 25 Teams, and it get tougher in 2016 too, for all 3 too!
WVU will not be a top 25 next year,tough schedule and the QB isn't the type needed in the Big12.You have to outscore teams in the Big12 and Holgy can't outscore the big dogs!Holgy must swallow his pride and hire an OC to help him.Holgy thinks he can do it all but he needs help!
Actually I'm arguing no such thing. I'm trying to emphasize how flawed those types of arguments are. You're late to the party on this one, it's a running debate between 89 and I.
I'm not one who uses the transitive property. I'm looking at the results as a whole. You're the one who thinks that LSU would have been a worse opponent for Pitt because of what LSU did to Texas Tech.... as if what they did against the worst defensive team from the worst defensive conference was related to how they'd do against us.
This bowl season, the ACC is 4-5 with a team in the title game. The Big Ten is 5-4 with no team in the title game. Anyone who claims the Big Ten is clearly superior to the ACC does not have the data on their side.
And the offer is still on the table. Give me Clemson and 9.5 for $100. You said Alabama will handle them easily and win by double digits. Have the courage of your convictions and make an easy $100.
Still rather be in the Big 10 instead of the ACC. Which school got screwed the most by ND taking one of the ACC bowls? At least Pitt and Saracuse are used to getting screwed by ND.
Notre Dame didn't take one of the ACC bowls.
Notre Dame was in a NY6 bowl and didn't impact the ACC bowl selection at all this year.
The two teams who played in the Big 10 title game were outscored 83-16. Those same two teams were 15-1 in Big 10 regular season games.
Get real. Iowa avoided the tough match ups vs the east division, and MSU lucked out like a mofo. After the fluke play of the year to beat Michigan, they turned around and faced the Bucks in practical monsoon weather. The best team didn't win either of those games.
Even if we had all our D linemen when we faced TUOS, chances they would of beat us still this year. There is no doubt who the best team in conference was. They were the ones smacking the chit out of ND yesterday, and we violated the runner up from the SEC.
Add Wiscy beating USC, and a 5-7 Neb team beating 8-4 UCLA, and I don't see where folks got anything to say when it comes to the B1G.
What part of my post was factually incorrect? The two teams that played in the conference championship game went 15-1 in conference between them and lost by a combined 67 points to Alabama and Stanford.
So your point is that if we only look at the Big Ten teams that won and ignore the ones that got the crap kicked out of them then the Big Ten looks pretty good. Yeah, I guess they do. So what?
Bama is a whole different deal. MSU had no chance, neither does anyone else including Clemson. Clemson will make it look a little better, as they really are the second best team in the country this year, but they will still get run. Agree with aged that OSU was the best team in the 10 all year and MSU got lucky playing them in that crazy storm. Played under normal conditions, MSU loses that game even with Cook playing.
Iowa was a pretender all year, talk about a slow, plodding, unimaginative, under-talented bunch--but I still expected that game to be a lot more competitive than it was. The truth is Stanford was playing its best football at the end of the year, felt slighted in the playoff deal and Heisman snub, and they came into the Rose Bowl on a mission.
My point is you were being a cheese dick trying to run us down. B1G was 5-5 this bowl season. All away games. Four of those wins were USC, UCLA, ND, and Fla. Minny even notched a win vs Central, which is on par with your Alcorn state.
The ACC has wins vs Alcorn State, Indiana(OT), Texas A & M, & Oklahoma.
So as of now, we have more wins & against the better competition, but you want to run your yap? Like I said, a cheese dick move.
Since when is NC A&T (the team that played Alcorn State) in the ACC?
The ACC's wins are:
Tulsa
Indiana (Big Ten)
Texas A&M (SEC)
Oklahoma (B12)
And every bowl team, except for Navy and New Mexico, played an "away game".
Actually that was my first post in the thread, so obviously I was doing no such thing. You, on the other hand, were attempting to tell everyone that we should judge the Big Ten's performance by paying attention to the teams that did well and ignoring the teams that got the crap kicked out of them.
That, I believe, would be the definition of a "cheese dick move".
The fact is that I didn't have to do anything at all to run down the Big Ten. Your two conference championship game participants did that for me.
How. many times do I have to repeat the same thing to you before you hear it? Again--LSU would have been a worse draw than Navy for Pitt because LSU has drastically superior personnel. Bigger, faster, stronger at every single spot. Navy is friggin Navy. Most of their players weren't even MAC level recruits. Triple option? So what? LSU wouldn't need any gimmicks to shut us out and hang 30-plus on us.
Oklahoma is better than any of those teams the B1G defeated. A&M is about the same as UCLA, and USC. So what's your point?
You'd like being in the B1G until the first time you were at Heinz Field, and looked up and saw 40,000 red clad Buckeye fans in the stands. It would be 30,000 when Michigan came to town, and would be worse when we were having a bad year, which would be often, playing in the East division, with all of those big land grant schools. I like where Pitt landed. We actually have a chance to win, and get better there. We'd be Purdue in the B1G. Michigan will soon be back to normal, and the league will revert to Big 2 status. I'll pass.
