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There's a lot of guys on here want Pitt to get a Grad Trans PG well look at this!

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Western Illinois guard Kobe Webster is in the NCAA Transfer Portal, a source tells @247sports. Averaged 17.1 PPG this season. Has hit 184 three-pointers in his career. Graduate transfer.
 
Western Illinois guard Kobe Webster is in the NCAA Transfer Portal, a source tells @247sports. Averaged 17.1 PPG this season. Has hit 184 three-pointers in his career. Graduate transfer.

If Johnson stays and we move him to the 2, we would need a pass-first PG to get him, Horton, Toney, and Champagnie the ball.
 
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I haven't seen much in the way of Pitt looking at many PGs besides Femi, who isn't actually a true pg.
But we seem to be looking at some CGs right now, which makes me think a lil bit.
However we do know how quiet Capel is.
 
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I agree you know That's what I've been saying but some want a Grad Trans PG so bad I figured I would give them one. IJS

If Johnson stays and we move him to the 2, we would need a pass-first PG to get him, Horton, Toney, and Champagnie the ball.
 
If Johnson stays and we move him to the 2, we would need a pass-first PG to get him, Horton, Toney, and Champagnie the ball.
Xavier Johnson is a "true point guard" as so many of you like to say. He isn't a 2 guard. He isn't "pass first" because he NEEDS to score in order for this team to be successful. If he were on a team w/ guys who could score, he'd have huge assistant numbers. I can't stand and don't understand the narrative that Xavier Johnson isn't a "true point guard". The same people who believe in and push this narrative are probably the same people who criticized James Robinson for not having enough offensive game and being too "pass first".
 
No argument intended, put you can't have too many good PG's, IMHO
or should I say rarely has any team had too many good PG's.
 
We go through this it seems like every year. I know some of it was Stallings. But we have missed on so many transfers. And the ones we have been able to get have not helped. Maybe Horton will be the first. But I really don't care much about transfer lists.
 
Xavier Johnson is a "true point guard" as so many of you like to say. He isn't a 2 guard. He isn't "pass first" because he NEEDS to score in order for this team to be successful. If he were on a team w/ guys who could score, he'd have huge assistant numbers. I can't stand and don't understand the narrative that Xavier Johnson isn't a "true point guard". The same people who believe in and push this narrative are probably the same people who criticized James Robinson for not having enough offensive game and being too "pass first".

He didn't play HS on his HS team or AAU team. Making you 6'2 with good handle doesn't make you a "true PG." He doesn't have good PG instincts. He's a scorer and that's fine if he played along someone who complemented him. Think Gibbs/Wanamaker. Gibbs was the PG bug didnt have natural PG instincts. Wanamaker was able to read defenses and make plays from his SG role and was the unofficial PG.
 
Xavier Johnson is a "true point guard" as so many of you like to say. He isn't a 2 guard. He isn't "pass first" because he NEEDS to score in order for this team to be successful. If he were on a team w/ guys who could score, he'd have huge assistant numbers. I can't stand and don't understand the narrative that Xavier Johnson isn't a "true point guard". The same people who believe in and push this narrative are probably the same people who criticized James Robinson for not having enough offensive game and being too "pass first".
Agree.
 
Xavier Johnson is a "true point guard" as so many of you like to say. He isn't a 2 guard. He isn't "pass first" because he NEEDS to score in order for this team to be successful. If he were on a team w/ guys who could score, he'd have huge assistant numbers. I can't stand and don't understand the narrative that Xavier Johnson isn't a "true point guard". The same people who believe in and push this narrative are probably the same people who criticized James Robinson for not having enough offensive game and being too "pass first".

I totally disagree that he's a true PG if that was the case he wouldn't have went to coach to ask him how to be one. Anyone that knows what a PG job is even one that can score would still see the natural instincts that he would have that he doesn't have but I do see him trying to improve in that area and I really hope he gets it even more and I think he will because JC is really in his ear teaching and more importantly you see he's finally getting it.
 
Have any of the late-rising prospects we were on last year did anything? The centers? The Swedish kid from Cumberland?
Probably not. Maybe they will eventually.
Maybe they won't.
I don't know, I just the looks of this kid.
He's big, wide, can jump, can shoot.
 
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Have any of the late-rising prospects we were on last year did anything? The centers? The Swedish kid from Cumberland?

I'm not sure that the Swedish kid from Cumberland, aka ORN, logged a single minute for UT.

Same with Josephat Bilau at Wichita State.

Ibrahima Diallo is managing about 1 point per game.

Sean McNeil isn't even as good as Murphy.

Khadim Sy would be better than Hamilton and probably Brown but his stats are Brown-like and he commits a lot of fouls (I posted them in another thread).

I think that's the entire list of late period adds we looked at.
 
I'm not sure that the Swedish kid from Cumberland, aka ORN, logged a single minute for UT.

Same with Josephat Bilau at Wichita State.

Ibrahima Diallo is managing about 1 point per game.

Sean McNeil isn't even as good as Murphy.

Khadim Sy would be better than Hamilton and probably Brown but his stats are Brown-like and he commits a lot of fouls (I posted them in another thread).

I think that's the entire list of late period adds we looked at.
There was also the JUCO big who ended up at Tulsa, though I'm not sure if he could have ever acted on his "offer" here.
 
Yeah late period signings are bit of a mixed bag and not the way to build a program -- we got really lucky with X and Trey/Toney were reclassifications. To think Femi is a saviour is nuts.
 
I'm not sure that the Swedish kid from Cumberland, aka ORN, logged a single minute for UT.

Same with Josephat Bilau at Wichita State.

Ibrahima Diallo is managing about 1 point per game.

Sean McNeil isn't even as good as Murphy.

Khadim Sy would be better than Hamilton and probably Brown but his stats are Brown-like and he commits a lot of fouls (I posted them in another thread).

I think that's the entire list of late period adds we looked at.

Charles Coleman, who picked East Freakin Carolina over Duke and us is averaging 3 and 3. The failure rate for these "late-risers" has to be very high. Most are lesser-talented players who havent signed so they become highly recruited "lottery tickets."
 
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Charles Coleman, who picked East Freakin Carolina over Duke and us is averaging 3 and 3. The failure rate for these "late-risers" has to be very high. Most are lesser-talented players who havent signed so they become highly recruited "lottery tickets."

I can't imagine that anyone picked ECU over Duke. I suspect he didn't have a committable offer.

But yeah, the late period guys we were in play for were mostly useless. Just more evidence of caution in assuming that the new guys will be better than the old guys.
 
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If Johnson stays and we move him to the 2, we would need a pass-first PG to get him, Horton, Toney, and Champagnie the ball.

The pass first PG idea is overrated. Besides, X will be pass first if he has some talent around him. Can't imagine how many assists he would've averaged if we had some guys who could consistently make catch and shoot jumpers.
 
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I can't imagine that anyone picked ECU over Duke. I suspect he didn't have a committable offer.

But yeah, the late period guys we were in play for were mostly useless. Just more evidence of caution in assuming that the new guys will be better than the old guys.
A lot of these late riser types might have potential qualification issues, too. We've heard that rumor with Femi. Kid puts up a good enough senior year that programs figure he's worth taking even if you have to bite the bullet on a redshirt.
 
The pass first PG idea is overrated. Besides, X will be pass first if he has some talent around him. Can't imagine how many assists he would've averaged if we had some guys who could consistently make catch and shoot jumpers.

I actually think Xavier will be a decent NBA player just because everyone in the league can space and shoot. It will be pretty easy for him to cut and then find a Robert Covington-type guy in the corner. I really, really think that our lack of shooting talent or offense from the 5 is holding him in particular back.
 
I'm not sure that the Swedish kid from Cumberland, aka ORN, logged a single minute for UT.

Same with Josephat Bilau at Wichita State.

Ibrahima Diallo is managing about 1 point per game.

Sean McNeil isn't even as good as Murphy.

Khadim Sy would be better than Hamilton and probably Brown but his stats are Brown-like and he commits a lot of fouls (I posted them in another thread).

I think that's the entire list of late period adds we looked at.
Yeah the majority of those guys were bigs besides McNeill. But I don't think any of them look anything like this dude. Although not sure how much we are on him. Im more interested in the fact that Pitt seems to be pursuing a number of combo guards.
 
I actually think Xavier will be a decent NBA player just because everyone in the league can space and shoot. It will be pretty easy for him to cut and then find a Robert Covington-type guy in the corner. I really, really think that our lack of shooting talent or offense from the 5 is holding him in particular back.

there's absolutely no question about it. You'll see a different player next year. he has been tasked with so much these first two seasons and gets hardly any credit. If Pitt was just middle of the pack in shooting he's averaging close to 7 assists per game.
 
there's absolutely no question about it. You'll see a different player next year. he has been tasked with so much these first two seasons and gets hardly any credit. If Pitt was just middle of the pack in shooting he's averaging close to 7 assists per game.

He and Trey are basically playing with 1 hand tied behind their back. What are they supposed to do?

- Drive the lane and find Brown/Hamilton underneath? Both of those guys are strictly below-the-rim players. Brown can't even catch the pass most times, let alone finish. Nope.
- Drive the lane and kick it to a shooter? Toney and Champagnie are just ok from distance. Murphy was good until January 22 and then completely fell off a cliff. Drumgoole was hurt for 1/3 of the year and never really found his groove. Again, no options here.
- Finish at the rim themselves? Ok, I guess, but not if teams are playing a zone and not against the double or triple teams that come as a result of us having few, if any, organic scorers.
Those are a list of bad options. I mean, you just aren't going to win a lot of games when your Center can't score, and your wings and guards can't shoot. What are they supposed to do?

That said, I've been frustrated with their decisionmaking at points during the year. I won't go into it here but we've all seen them do ill-advised to completely ridiculous things. Some of that is done because they have to. Some of that is because there haven't been (can't be bc of our roster?) consequences for doing so.

I think both will be better with better weapons around them. I hope that some of those weapons will be on the roster next year. I hope that both of them stay, because they are good players and they've mostly played hard and they deserve to win here. I hope they get to taste the success that they envisioned when they committed to an 0-19 team.
 
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