ADVERTISEMENT

This is one of the more brilliant common sense moves....in a sport

recruitsreadtheseboards

recruitsreadtheseboards

Lair Hall of Famer
Jun 11, 2006
88,279
78,959
113
usually driven more by $$$$'s than anything else.

Cincy is scheduled to play Tulsa this Saturday. No matter what the outcome, Cincy is then scheduled to play Tulsa again NEXT Saturday for the AAC Championship. So they decided to cancel this week's game.

That makes perfect sense in the environment that exists right now. No use risking injury, travel, COVID exposure, etc...save money......
 
  • Like
Reactions: bobfree, Bethlehemjohn, zookeeper2000 and 8 others
recruitsreadtheseboards said:
usually driven more by $$$$'s than anything else.

Cincy is scheduled to play Tulsa this Saturday. No matter what the outcome, Cincy is then scheduled to play Tulsa again NEXT Saturday for the AAC Championship. So they decided to cancel this week's game.

That makes perfect sense in the environment that exists right now. No use risking injury, travel, COVID exposure, etc...save money......
Click to expand...

Great move. But couldn't Cincy find someone to play this week to help with their CFP resume? Someone has to be available.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JohnnyGossamer, jctrack and TheSpecialSauce
They ultimately did it for money. If they beat Tulsa twice it doesn’t look as good for the Confrence because it hurts their ranking. It is Cincinnati’s and the Americans best chance at the playoff to have one decisive win.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FireballZ and jctrack
TheSpecialSauce said:
Agreed - That makes sense. They’d get a lot of national attention as well.
Click to expand...
But will any of the P5 conferences even allow a team to go OOC at this point? I know Washington kicked around playing BYU, but I can't see the SEC allowing it since they wouldn't allow it within their original scheduling.

I think Cincinnati and Coastal would get some buzz after Coastal's win last week. It may not be enough for Cincy, but it can't really hurt (if the playoffs, rather than just a NY6 Bowl is their ultimate goal).
 
  • Like
Reactions: JohnnyGossamer
If I was a playoff selection committee member, if Cincy calls up OSU trying to schedule a game for this weekend, and OSU says its not interested, then I say Cincy deserves a playoff spot (provided Cincy takes care of business against Tulsa next week) and OSU should stay home for being chicken. I don't care if OSU's excuse is that "the people in charge of the Big 10 won't allow us to play non-conference games." The Big 10 should pay a price for poor decision making.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ray-Ray, Chaos, JohnnyGossamer and 1 other person
Upg bobcat said:
If I was a playoff selection committee member, if Cincy calls up OSU trying to schedule a game for this weekend, and OSU says its not interested, then I say Cincy deserves a playoff spot (provided Cincy takes care of business against Tulsa next week) and OSU should stay home for being chicken. I don't care if OSU's excuse is that "the people in charge of the Big 10 won't allow us to play non-conference games." The Big 10 should pay a price for poor decision making.
Click to expand...

Why does Cincy deserve a spot over A&M or Florida? Why isn't Cincy "chicken" for not playing Tulsa twice?
 
pittdan77 said:
Why does Cincy deserve a spot over A&M or Florida? Why isn't Cincy "chicken" for not playing Tulsa twice?
Click to expand...
A&M won't even win their division. If Florida beats Bama, then they'd have a pretty good case. OSU with only 5 or 6 games shouldn't get in ahead of Cincinnati, IMO, but the committee will almost certainly disagree.

Cincinnati basically is penalizing themselves by beating Tulsa twice, so I think removing the back-to-back is wise on their part. It's not like they are a top 10 team or something. I'd definitely be looking for another game this weekend, though. Pad that win total in case OSU/Michigan doesn't go and OSU somehow doesn't get to play in the B10 Championship Game.
 
FireballZ said:
A&M won't even win their division. If Florida beats Bama, then they'd have a pretty good case. OSU with only 5 or 6 games shouldn't get in ahead of Cincinnati, IMO, but the committee will almost certainly disagree.

Cincinnati basically is penalizing themselves by beating Tulsa twice, so I think removing the back-to-back is wise on their part. It's not like they are a top 10 team or something. I'd definitely be looking for another game this weekend, though. Pad that win total in case OSU/Michigan doesn't go and OSU somehow doesn't get to play in the B10 Championship Game.
Click to expand...

Winning your division is not a prerequisite for going to the CFP. Ask a Nit. Florida has a pretty good argument without beating Bama. If people don't like OSU, that's fine but they don't owe Cincy a game and there isn't any way Cincy is as good as any of those teams.

I get the argument that Cincy would "penalize" itself but to be honest, who have they beat? Most of their schedule is trash. Ohio State might not have glowing credentials but Cincy wouldn't be undefeated if they played the same schedule. They're not better than anyone else in the conversation.

Bottom line, the CFP is a made for TV entity. They want the most eyes and the most hype and even though they have whiffed on other P5 picks, they won't risk inviting a tiny fan base that is probably going to get throttled and make people want to watch something else. There's just too much money at stake.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JohnnyGossamer
pittdan77 said:
Winning your division is not a prerequisite for going to the CFP. Ask a Nit. Florida has a pretty good argument without beating Bama. If people don't like OSU, that's fine but they don't owe Cincy a game and there isn't any way Cincy is as good as any of those teams.

I get the argument that Cincy would "penalize" itself but to be honest, who have they beat? Most of their schedule is trash. Ohio State might not have glowing credentials but Cincy wouldn't be undefeated if they played the same schedule. They're not better than anyone else in the conversation.

Bottom line, the CFP is a made for TV entity. They want the most eyes and the most hype and even though they have whiffed on other P5 picks, they won't risk inviting a tiny fan base that is probably going to get throttled and make people want to watch something else. There's just too much money at stake.
Click to expand...
Maybe it's happened in the past and it's slipped my mind...maybe it was even OSU recently over PSU (if that's what you're referring to), but there haven't been many non-division winners to make the playoff, I do not believe.

And while I have no doubt that Florida or TAM would likely beat Cincinnati, I don't think you can put a two loss Florida in ahead of a 9-0 Cincinnati. TAM, I'd really have no problem being selected ahead of Cincinnati with only a loss to Bama.

I don't necessarily agree with you that Cincinnati wouldn't also be 5-0 with OSU's schedule. Indiana is a tough team, but that would be a toss up game, IMO. Cincy would also beat NU, PSU, RUT, MD and MSU rather easily. If OSU gets in with only 5 games played, it's just a total farce.

If the Big 10 won't let them play in the B10 Championship Game, then they damn well better play Cincinnati this weekend and have an elimination game.
 
Cincy would schedule aTm or TOSU in a second. A win would essentially guarantee them a spot in playoff. Those schools wouldn’t schedule Cincy though. And therefore, Cincy has no shot. That’s how much one game against that type of school matters.
 
  • Like
Reactions: recruitsreadtheseboards
Upg bobcat said:
If I was a playoff selection committee member, if Cincy calls up OSU trying to schedule a game for this weekend, and OSU says its not interested, then I say Cincy deserves a playoff spot (provided Cincy takes care of business against Tulsa next week) and OSU should stay home for being chicken. I don't care if OSU's excuse is that "the people in charge of the Big 10 won't allow us to play non-conference games." The Big 10 should pay a price for poor decision making.
Click to expand...

Exactly. If OSU wont play Cincy, you have to take 11-0 Cincy over 6-0 OSU
 
  • Like
Reactions: Chaos, Upg bobcat and Atlanta Panther
pittdan77 said:
Winning your division is not a prerequisite for going to the CFP. Ask a Nit. Florida has a pretty good argument without beating Bama. If people don't like OSU, that's fine but they don't owe Cincy a game and there isn't any way Cincy is as good as any of those teams.

I get the argument that Cincy would "penalize" itself but to be honest, who have they beat? Most of their schedule is trash. Ohio State might not have glowing credentials but Cincy wouldn't be undefeated if they played the same schedule. They're not better than anyone else in the conversation.

Bottom line, the CFP is a made for TV entity. They want the most eyes and the most hype and even though they have whiffed on other P5 picks, they won't risk inviting a tiny fan base that is probably going to get throttled and make people want to watch something else. There's just too much money at stake.
Click to expand...
Would be intersting if Florida beats Bama in a close game and Clemson eeks out a win versus Notre Dame. All 4 would have a better case than Ohio State.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pittdan77, HailToPitt725, WVUinColumbus and 2 others
WVUinColumbus said:
Cincy would schedule aTm or TOSU in a second. A win would essentially guarantee them a spot in playoff. Those schools wouldn’t schedule Cincy though. And therefore, Cincy has no shot. That’s how much one game against that type of school matters.
Click to expand...
Which is why we need to go to an 8 team playoff, because you have what amounts to a 10-12 team cartel that is only allowed to be in the playoffs. Even P5 conference teams, if they don't meet certain qualifications need not apply.
 
  • Like
Reactions: WVUinColumbus
TD_6082 said:
Cincy isn't getting in the CFP regardless. They could schedule tOSU at noon and TAMY at 4, beat them both by double digits, and they still wouldn't get in.
Click to expand...

dude, if that happened they would be in. Heck if they scheduled and beat A&M there would be pressure to include them. And the committee should, this is the year to do it. Basically a mulligan year. Then the committee can throw their bone to G5 and say hey look we don't exclude yinz G5 guys
 
  • Like
Reactions: FireballZ
FireballZ said:
Maybe it's happened in the past and it's slipped my mind...maybe it was even OSU recently over PSU (if that's what you're referring to), but there haven't been many non-division winners to make the playoff, I do not believe.

And while I have no doubt that Florida or TAM would likely beat Cincinnati, I don't think you can put a two loss Florida in ahead of a 9-0 Cincinnati. TAM, I'd really have no problem being selected ahead of Cincinnati with only a loss to Bama.

I don't necessarily agree with you that Cincinnati wouldn't also be 5-0 with OSU's schedule. Indiana is a tough team, but that would be a toss up game, IMO. Cincy would also beat NU, PSU, RUT, MD and MSU rather easily. If OSU gets in with only 5 games played, it's just a total farce.

If the Big 10 won't let them play in the B10 Championship Game, then they damn well better play Cincinnati this weekend and have an elimination game.
Click to expand...

Cincy might beach each of those teams in a solo, stand alone game. Probably not but it's definitely possible. As a conference schedule, they're losing at least one or two of those. Playing at that level every week is different. Size and speed of players matters. Wears you down.

I don't have any problem saying Ohio State doesn't belong in the CFP. I'm okay with that argument. But Cincy certainly does not.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HailToPitt725
Slick Manager of Champs said:
dude, if that happened they would be in. Heck if they scheduled and beat A&M there would be pressure to include them. And the committee should, this is the year to do it. Basically a mulligan year. Then the committee can throw their bone to G5 and say hey look we don't exclude yinz G5 guys
Click to expand...

You would think so, but that isn't the way it works. Cincy wouldn't get in regardless.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Chris Peak
  • Locked
  • Sticky

In the Pitt - 1/16/09

Replies
15
Views
2K
In the Pitt Archives
Jpripper88
J
Chris Peak
  • Locked
  • Sticky

In the Pitt - 9/19/08

Replies
13
Views
2K
In the Pitt Archives
sherepower
sherepower
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT
Top Bottom
Back