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Thoughts on NC St, Jamie..

Not after he has run the Pitt program into the ground which will have been the case if he were fired. Your analysis completely ignores the state of affairs which would have triggered his firing- as we've said Pitt can't really afford to axe him unless he screws up royally. Obviously if he voluntarily jumps ship to the train wreck programs you reference, that would keep him in coaching. If the scenario I described were to occur it wouldn't be the first time a HC burned brightly for a while then flamed out completely- there are plenty examples of those- Paul Hewitt being one of the best examples.

Except Paul Hewitt, by definition, is a HORRIBLE example. Because, as I am sure you know, he got another job after Georgia Tech. He didn't even have to sit out a year before George Mason hired him.

You said Jamie would NEVER coach again after Pitt. How is Paul Hewitt a good example?
 
We often get that here too. There was this kind of discussion after the Purdue and L-ville losses. In all fairness to most posters, watching that NC State loss was so difficult that it was really tough to gather the energy for analysis.

I too could do without the "Fire the Coach" silliness, but that game was truly disheartening.
Negative comments are great if constructive. The destructive, and often repetitive posting is trolling and against board rules. Its sole purpose is to annoy and adds no value. I don't criticize most negative posts. But we have three guys who consistently do nothing but troll. One you went to bat for who turned around and threw you under the bus.
 
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I think Jamie is plenty good as an offensive coach.

Here's one example I disagree. Sterling Smith is an elite 3 point shooter and shooting it at a very high percentage. Yet, Jamie has said many times, they run plays for 4 guys (Artis, Young, Jeter, Robinson). Pitt has never run a play for Smith.

When your team is struggling offensively, wouldnt it be good coaching to run Smith off a double screen to get him a look. Or against Louisville, bring up a big to screen one of the guards to get him free?

Smith is a heck of a weapon but he isnt being used.
 
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If he plays 10 minutes per game it's just another bad decision by a coach who at the moment is struggling to even develop a rotation half way through the season. Given how Dixon seems to have lost his way, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Jones continue to stink up the joint 10 minutes per game.
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It started out well at least.

It's so frustrating that any and all discussions in the basketball forum dissolve down to "Fire Jamie" and any and all discussions in the football forum dissolve down to "Sandusky". And it's not just the Pitt boards. Every fan base has its seemingly tireless agendas.

I bet psychiatric researchers mine these message boards for their case studies.
 
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- I don't think I've ever left a home game before at halftime

Solid post........additional comments below

- Jamie deserves 100% blame for not having the team ready to play, not making any adjustments. Look, NC State needed that game one million times more than we did. They were 0-5, and have Duke twice in their next 4 games. Point blank, if they lose to us they are looking at potentially a 0-7, 0-8 start to the season. They still have a lot of talent, maybe the best player in the league, and enough bigs to give us trouble. Still, knowing how desperate they would be, we came out flat. Jamie has to do something about this team's body language when things don't go quite right, and the number one problem is that our two best players have this very annoying habit of sulking and whining when their shots don't fall. It carries over to their defensive play too, and it is a troubling pattern. Still, that's Jamie's job to get through to them. And the thing is, Jamie knows it. He knows his best players can also be his worst problem.

They've had this problem going back to last year. Jeter, Artis, and Mike in particular let their performance on the offensive end affect their play on the defensive end. Not sure how you correct that because this team doesn't have much offense without Mike and Artis and there really are no stronger defensive options on the bench to sit them.........At some point these guys need to have some self pride and maintain focus on the defensive end of the floor even when they are struggling offensively. At least when JROB is struggling, he still hustles on defense.

Clearly this team is in a collective funk. They didn't play especially well against BC so that's three subpar games in a row. Prior to the second half, JROB was back to playing tentatively. This team needs him to create off the dribble and finish a few in the lane and draw files.

Speaking of which, that brings up the toughness aspect that many have spoken about. When this team attacks the lane, they draw fouls. Their poor play the last few games has as much to do with settling for jump shots (playing soft) and not getting to the foul line as it does with the defensive end and shooting percentages. Granted NCST had a big lead but they were more aggressive going into the lane in the second half.


- I won't justify the thread advocating for firing Jamie by adding to it, only because it is the LAZIEST form of commenting (Fire the Coach!!), but I do think that the seat will be getting fairly warm if we miss the dance.

- I wouldn't consider firing Jamie yet. I like the recruiting for 2016. Manigault and Kithcart can be great. Chrisshawn Clark is exactly the kind of guard this team lacks. I think Jamie has also shown he's not so tied into a system, or that he's stubborn. He just has a roster right now of very inconsistent players, quite a few of them who aren't really making the leaps you'd like.

Talk of firing JD is incredibly premature. First off, lets see how he finishes this year. If he makes the NCAA tourney, that will have been a good year considering the holes this team had at the end of last year. IMO this year and next year are critical. Has to make the NCAA's this year and make a nice run next year with a senior laden team.

- Lineups wise, you simply have to give Cam Johnson more minutes. I'd play him more at the 2G/SF with Arits, and really phase out Sterling Smith if he refuses to shoot. Chris Jones is frustrating, but I still think he has some injury issues. He's a pretty good player at 10-15 mpg. I'd give Cameron 20 mpg or so and let him try to figure out how to be great, which I think he can. This team also seems to feed off of Jeter, who was just awful in stretches yesterday.

Sterling generally brings rebounding and defense but he was just as bad as everyone else and doesn't appear to be willing to take open shots. As a result, I think you have something with Cam. I liked the way he played defense against NCST and he has shown flashes of being a pretty good offensive player who is willing to take big shots. Kid needs more PT for sure.
I also agree with you about CJ. Kid shows flashes but is so inconsistent.


- This year in hoops is nuts. I can't remember seeing more ranked teams lose at home to unranked teams. WVU, Michigan St tonight. So much parity. ACC is a giant mess with UNC at the top, BC at the bottom, and a tossup with most teams in between.

- Team is at a crossroads right now. 15-3 so no reason to jump off the bridge, but a very tricky 4 game stretch here. If they can come out of it 3-1, they are right back on track for the NCAA's and a high seed. 2-2 wouldn't be the worst but it would make the last 8 games a dogfight to get in. Anything worse than 2-2 and it will be uphill to make the NCAA's. A home loss is like losing two games, so winning one of the next two will get that NC St game right back. They can certainly do it if they hit shots, but Jamie needs to get this team mentally right. That is job 1, 2, and 3 right now. Don't let them get down. So much season left.

Its a long season. MSU is mired in a three game skid........Duke is playing poorly...........CUSe started slowly............ITs way too soon to give up on this team yet. The could go on another mini run and win their next few games. However they cant afford to settle for jump shots and score less than 20 points in a half. Heck even if they played better defense that would put them down by more than points. They are never gong to shut teams down on defense so they cant afford to have halves where they are completely dysfunctional on offense.

As much as this team relies upon Mike, JROB and Artis, they cant afford to have Jeter playing as poorly as he has. HE has to regroup and get back to contributing quality minutes on both ends of the floor. He more than any player seems to be affected by the physical play and not having shots fall early.


HAIL TO PITT
 
No. I will repeat. It is, really without question, the single dumbest thing I've ever read on here.

You don't think TCU would hire him in a millisecond? Depaul where Maggie coached? BC just hired Jim Christian...I mean, come on.

Also, he's way too smart to let the bottom totally fall out. He'd jump ship first.
Not after he has run the Pitt program into the ground which will have been the case if he were fired. Your analysis completely ignores the state of affairs which would have triggered his firing- as we've said Zpitt can't really afford to ace him unless he screws up royally. Obviously if he voluntarily jumps ship to the train wreck programs you reference, that would keep him in coaching. If the scenario I described were to occur it wouldn't be the first time a HC burned brightly for a while then flamed out completely- there are plenty examples of those- Paul Heeitt,
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Look I'm not here arguing for Dixon's ouster but the cranky sloppy thinker you are that's how you interpreted my post. If Pitt cans Dixon2 or 3 years down the road he's done because he will have essentially destroyed all the goodwill he had built early in his career as a HC
 
Not after he has run the Pitt program into the ground which will have been the case if he were fired. Your analysis completely ignores the state of affairs which would have triggered his firing- as we've said Zpitt can't really afford to ace him unless he screws up royally. Obviously if he voluntarily jumps ship to the train wreck programs you reference, that would keep him in coaching. If the scenario I described were to occur it wouldn't be the first time a HC burned brightly for a while then flamed out completely- there are plenty examples of those- Paul Heeitt,

Look I'm not here arguing for Dixon's ouster but the cranky sloppy thinker you are that's how you interpreted my post. If Pitt cans Dixon2 or 3 years down the road he's done because he will have essentially destroyed all the goodwill he had built early in his career as a HC
I will wager you any dollar amount you're wrong.
 
I picture Del sitting there waiting with his sock full of Pennies, watching out his Reverse Peephole....
I make about 20 Seinfeld references a day at work. Luckily, I work with 3 guys who are as big Seinfeld nerds as me. Our big thing now....You stuck your hand out, I shook it.
 
Not after he has run the Pitt program into the ground which will have been the case if he were fired. Your analysis completely ignores the state of affairs which would have triggered his firing- as we've said Zpitt can't really afford to ace him unless he screws up royally. Obviously if he voluntarily jumps ship to the train wreck programs you reference, that would keep him in coaching. If the scenario I described were to occur it wouldn't be the first time a HC burned brightly for a while then flamed out completely- there are plenty examples of those- Paul Heeitt,

Look I'm not here arguing for Dixon's ouster but the cranky sloppy thinker you are that's how you interpreted my post. If Pitt cans Dixon2 or 3 years down the road he's done because he will have essentially destroyed all the goodwill he had built early in his career as a HC

You keep saying Paul Hewitt...but you do realize that after a few years going like 10-18 at Ga Tech, he still got a job at George Mason. That's why your position is so puzzling. Even your best example, is just wrong.

I mean, maybe Jamie would like to go the TV route, I'm sure thats a less stressful job and he's been good at it. But, if you really don't think he would ever be offered another job after leaving Pitt in ruins(which even in these bad years we aren't close to), I just think you are 100% wrong.
 
You keep saying Paul Hewitt...but you do realize that after a few years going like 10-18 at Ga Tech, he still got a job at George Mason. That's why your position is so puzzling. Even your best example, is just wrong.

I mean, maybe Jamie would like to go the TV route, I'm sure thats a less stressful job and he's been good at it. But, if you really don't think he would ever be offered another job after leaving Pitt in ruins(which even in these bad years we aren't close to), I just think you are 100% wrong.
Look if you are suggesting that he could/ would get a job somewhere/ anywhere if he were so inclined, yea, I will concede that. I just don't see the chances of his procuring a high profile job again to be anything but extremely low.
 
Look if you are suggesting that he could/ would get a job somewhere/ anywhere if he were so inclined, yea, I will concede that. I just don't see the ch
If he gets canned, he will be done- he's a poor recruiter and struggles to assemble a strong staff around himself.
ances of his procuring a high profile job again to be anything but extremely low.

Smart to back off this asinine proclamation.
 
And yet, own rental property in your skull... Where there is plenty of room.

You're mistaken as usual .​
Took a day off from this board and come back to see you fighting with someone else.

What else is new. Guy with 40,000 posts has no clue how to get along with others, amazing.
 
I don't suffer fools.
Or in del's case suicidally negative misanthropes.
I don't think Del has ever liked a post of mine or replied to a post of mine but you know what? I agree with a lot of what he has to say and he doesn't come on here like you and find little things to attack and make fun of. You do.

Sad that the master of being critical can't see his own flaws. You sure like to point out other people's though. You are very good at that.
 
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I don't think Del has ever liked a post of mine or replied to a post of mine but you know what? I agree with a lot of what he has to say and he doesn't come on here like you and find little things to attack and make fun of. You do.

Sad that the master of being critical can't see his own flaws. You sure like to point out other people's though. You are very good at that.
I "attack" trolls.
Rational and logical posts I disagree with are great for discussion ...
And something can be learned from them
That's this board at its best.

Your dreck is at its worst.
 
And yet, own rental property in your skull... Where there is plenty of room.

You're mistaken as usual .​
I "attack" trolls.
Rational and logical posts I disagree with are great for discussion ...
And something can be learned from them
That's this board at its best.

Your dreck is at its worst.
you are the quintessential troll as evidenced by your 80, 000 moronic posts
 
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What is missed in this awful thread is that Dixon will absolutely not be fired by Pitt. If things ever get that bad here, Dixon will resign or take another job. Pitt can't afford the black eye of firing him, and they are much too professional to tarnish him that way too. That was part of the reason I mentioned DeChellis. He knew the hangman was coming and did the right thing for all involved.
 
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