To crap or get off the crapper . Wecould have used him . Every win is important here on out . He needs to play or go home . Sorry!
Time for Big John
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There’s obviously more to the story than any of us know .
Anyone thinking Pitt is a better team without a healthy John Hugley is an idiot .
How can you not love what Fede has done , but he provides so little offense right now , if the shooters are hitting having Hugley around the basket would make Pitt awfully tough .
The twins at their current strength level just aren’t strong enough to play the 5 .
Anyone thinking Pitt is a better team without a healthy John Hugley is an idiot .
How can you not love what Fede has done , but he provides so little offense right now , if the shooters are hitting having Hugley around the basket would make Pitt awfully tough .
The twins at their current strength level just aren’t strong enough to play the 5 .
What's a healthy Hugley? Is he actually injured at this point or just horribly out of shape?
The Hugley I saw play at Vanderbilt is a liability. I've seen nothing from him this year that would lead me to believe he has anything to contribute.
Like I said none of us know what the real story is , but a 20 /21 yr old game doesn’t regress without there being some reason .
I'm not going to speculate on a reason.
All I know is that he supposedly had some sort of knee ailment at the beginning of the season and he's been grossly out of shape since then. He was a liability when he last played almost a month ago. That's all we have to go on.
He had a knee injury and had a full leg brace from upper thigh all the way down to his ankles and he had very little movement at all. Due to that, he was out of shape.
My guess is the knee is back to or close to 100%. I also think Jeff may have put a weight stipulation on him, saying we won’t play you again till you get under a certain weight.
What I do know is that he is still with the program and still having fun with and rooting on the team. If we get last years John back later this year or next year, he will help us.
This could be. I don't think he isnt dressing for games due to a physical injury or a personal matter he is dealing with.
In his presser today, Capel said it wasnt an injury and when asked if its possible he wont be back this season, he said he doesnt know.
He would. He also may not want to announce it. Just like they didnt announce Dior was suspended for the season after being reinstated
Eight minutes of a rested Hugley would make us better.
And he said that again today. The guy that said it may be that Capel told him he's not playing until he is in shape is probably close to being right.
Of course
His head hasn’t been remotely close to competitive this season
I’d like him for 15 minutes and 5 fouls -
But honestly GDG and JDG are better options as backups to fede for this particular team
I’ve been hopeful for Hugley and thought he had potential. Wasn’t nearly as high on him as SMF but I thought he could be pretty good. And he still may contribute at some point. But even I recognize how poor he’s been. He had a game where I don’t think he even got a rebound. You’d think he’d almost have to try and suck that bad. You’ve said it I believe. We don’t know the full story. But there’s more to this -
I think pretty obviously. Personal issues, hell maybe even depression/mental health. But he’s added little to no value on the floor.
And whatever is going on hopefully he’s ok or on his way to being ok.
There’s no doubt there’s more to the story .
Big John at 75% of his potential is better than 100% of the twins right now . I’m a big supporter of what the twins can potentially bring to the program down the line . Big John just needs to get healthy/ fit / mentally focused / academically ….whatever the reason/s . He will make them a better team .
Both Hinson and Fede take unnecessary fouls , there will be a game were they’re both in foul trouble and Pitt cannot will a game without them for any significant amount of minutes.
They are since they are dressing for games.
And John isn’t playing and hasn’t played for over a month
It is really obvious: they are both on Double Secret Probation.
Their stats are better than a guy in sweats
Hey I get it- you’ve been so gaslit by your own nonsense here on this topic - it’s hard to let go
Even Capel has stopped making excuses for him
Maybe you should as well
Guys, the word is that he has anxiety. Hopefully he is getting the help he needs and can get back to doing what he loves to do.
I don't understand the criticism that John is even receiving right now. If he doesn't play for the rest of the year, so what.
He was one of the people that actually helped recruit a number of the guys helping this team win right now. John should take all the time he needs and block out the nonsense posted / said about him. He made 1 mistake his freshmen year. We all made mistakes in the past.
Ever since that mistake, he's been 100% about Pitt. He's recruited players to Pitt. He's helped the community and with charities at Pitt. He's been a great student athlete at Pitt. He has another friend / former teammate coming to Pitt in the 2023 recruiting class in Marlon Barnes. He had a dream to lead this team this year and it got sidelined because of the injury among other reasons. He should come back whenever he is ready and we should support the kid until he is ready.
Some people should just back off of him for the time being.
That's nothing to mess around with. It's not a cold or COVID. This is a serious disorder that needs continuous treatment. You don't get rid of it with a split or some OTC drugs. Let him get the help he needs. Doing that is immensely more important than a basketball game.
Whose making excuses , there’s something not publicly exposed that is going on here that’s affected his ability to play . If he can get passed whatever it is his presence on the court , when needed , would make Pitt a better team .
People should hope whatever reasons that are keeping him from playing can be addressed and he can resume the game he loves .
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He’s not been injured for months
As some of us told you
And frankly it’s not the weight -
You can be heavy and play with effort - look at that man mountain at NCSU and hell that Luther dude from Duke last night . He’s not an elite athlete - but he played hard
You are a broken record . There’s obviously an issue effecting him that Pitt feels that you’re not entitled to know , but you continue on and on with your dribble . Let the kid alone and let him recover from all that’s affecting him .
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The issue is he’s not willing to play hard
That’s it
End of list
You’ve literally posted a hundred times about this terrible knee injury which set him back based on nothing than your own need to make an excuse for him
To be fair, the fake knee injury is better than SMF’s insistence on him being on double secret probation.
