Letter of Intent Day is nice, it's almost like draft day in the NFL, but if you look at how Penn State fans are lapping up Franklin's private area, it's actually quite disturbing. Penn State kicked our ass this year on the recruiting trail, as they should have, but that fan base really needs something else to do in the winter.
Today is Exhibit A showing what a Cult PSU Football is
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I guess I don't understand your post OP. Are you saying you don't like the NSD activities that Penn State puts on or that PSU fans are over the top in their praise of Franklin's recruiting efforts? He has landed a really solid class so I'm not sure why that wouldn't be celebrated by fans. I also thing the NSD stuff they do is pretty cool.
I'm a Penn State grad from a Penn State family married into a Pitt family. (My recently deceased brother-in-law was an All America linebacker at Pitt in the 60s, my other brother-in law is perhaps the most avid Pitt tailgater and fan and my wife is also a graduate of Pitt.)
Anyway, I say to all of you as I do to my Penn State friends: We all need to loosen up, show each other a bit of respect and work to resume the series on an annual basis (both schools are to blame for its demise.) We should also encourage administrators from both schools to work together on important issues like tuition control.
When I graduated in 1975, the rivalry was intense but friendly. Should be that way again.
Anyway, I say to all of you as I do to my Penn State friends: We all need to loosen up, show each other a bit of respect and work to resume the series on an annual basis (both schools are to blame for its demise.) We should also encourage administrators from both schools to work together on important issues like tuition control.
When I graduated in 1975, the rivalry was intense but friendly. Should be that way again.
Re: Congratulations Are Not A Vice, Franklin Did What He Promised!
Franklin said he was going to dominate recruiting and his class went from being #2 to #15 in rivals and #4 to #8 on Scout, and he was able to bring in a great recruiting class. This kind of actions backing up his words deserves kudos to him, and he did what he said he would do, and I can salute him without reservation. Franklin was a great recruiter at Vanderbilt and won there with his players in the Top 40. Franklin also grabbed some of the highest recruits from Rutgers in New Jersey and has some already committed in 2016. There is nothing wrong in acknowledging that Franklin is doing what he said he would do in recruiting.
Franklin's challenge is not grabbing recruits from Pitt and he did this last week but as shown Penn State Rankings dropped from 10th to 15th in a week too. Urban Meyer's and Larry Johnson out recruited Franklin again, and all of the Big Ten and Franklin's challenge now is to beat OSU, Michigan, and MSU and Pitt 2016-19 with the Players he invited and committed today.
Coach Pat Narduzzi came to Pitt saying he will build this Program into Teams winning on the field by demanding hard work from his players into becoming complete Teams. It is now up to Coach Pat & Staff to do what they promised too! Pitt challenge is to win in the ACC and against Notre Dame and Penn State in 2016-2019 with what he inherited under Chryst and Recruits that wanted to come to Pitt today!
Coach Holgorsen is on record he will produce a Championship Team this or next year and his challenge with the recruits he acquired today, is now Texas, Oklahoma, TCU, and Baylor! Now Holgorsen has to back it up on beating those Teams this year?
It is up to Pitt Football Program to build on what it has today, and what it needs to acquire tomorrow, and there is nothing wrong in complimenting and respecting Penn State, WVU and any other Program crowing or cheering about the Recruits they obtained today to meet their own challenges in the future.
HOLGORSEN: WVU WIN% RANK & RECRUITING RANK
WIN% RANK 58t West Virginia 0.54902 28 23 0 51 Salary $2.3 million
2012 #48 West Virginia 28 0 1 24 2.93 787
2013 #25 West Virginia 28 0 2 22 2.96 1722
2014 #45 West Virginia 21 0 3 14 2.95 1420
2015 #31 West Virginia 21 0 4 14 3.1 1531
FRANKLIN: VANDERBILT WIN% RANK & RECRUITING RANK:
WIN% RANK 40t Vanderbilt 0.61538 24 15 0 39
2012 #29 Vanderbilt 22 0 3 19 3.14 1069
2013 #19 Vanderbilt 26 0 5 20 3.15 1870
FRANKLIN: PENN STATE WIN% RANK & RECRUITING RANK:
WIN% RANK 58t Penn State 0.53846 7 6 0 13 Salary $4.5
2014 #24 Penn State 25 0 6 18 3.2 1797
2015 #15 Penn State 25 0 11 14 3.44 2133
CHRYST: PITT WIN% RANK & RECRUITING RANK:
WIN% RANK 76 Pittsburgh 0.48077 25 27 0 52
2012 #47 Pittsburgh 16 0 4 10 3.13 795
2013 #35 Pittsburgh 27 1 2 15 2.81 1568
2014 #44 Pittsburgh 23 0 4 15 3 1428
NARDUZZI RECRUITING RANK:
2015 #69 Pittsburgh 14 0 2 8 2.86 1057
Franklin said he was going to dominate recruiting and his class went from being #2 to #15 in rivals and #4 to #8 on Scout, and he was able to bring in a great recruiting class. This kind of actions backing up his words deserves kudos to him, and he did what he said he would do, and I can salute him without reservation. Franklin was a great recruiter at Vanderbilt and won there with his players in the Top 40. Franklin also grabbed some of the highest recruits from Rutgers in New Jersey and has some already committed in 2016. There is nothing wrong in acknowledging that Franklin is doing what he said he would do in recruiting.
Franklin's challenge is not grabbing recruits from Pitt and he did this last week but as shown Penn State Rankings dropped from 10th to 15th in a week too. Urban Meyer's and Larry Johnson out recruited Franklin again, and all of the Big Ten and Franklin's challenge now is to beat OSU, Michigan, and MSU and Pitt 2016-19 with the Players he invited and committed today.
Coach Pat Narduzzi came to Pitt saying he will build this Program into Teams winning on the field by demanding hard work from his players into becoming complete Teams. It is now up to Coach Pat & Staff to do what they promised too! Pitt challenge is to win in the ACC and against Notre Dame and Penn State in 2016-2019 with what he inherited under Chryst and Recruits that wanted to come to Pitt today!
Coach Holgorsen is on record he will produce a Championship Team this or next year and his challenge with the recruits he acquired today, is now Texas, Oklahoma, TCU, and Baylor! Now Holgorsen has to back it up on beating those Teams this year?
It is up to Pitt Football Program to build on what it has today, and what it needs to acquire tomorrow, and there is nothing wrong in complimenting and respecting Penn State, WVU and any other Program crowing or cheering about the Recruits they obtained today to meet their own challenges in the future.
HOLGORSEN: WVU WIN% RANK & RECRUITING RANK
WIN% RANK 58t West Virginia 0.54902 28 23 0 51 Salary $2.3 million
2012 #48 West Virginia 28 0 1 24 2.93 787
2013 #25 West Virginia 28 0 2 22 2.96 1722
2014 #45 West Virginia 21 0 3 14 2.95 1420
2015 #31 West Virginia 21 0 4 14 3.1 1531
FRANKLIN: VANDERBILT WIN% RANK & RECRUITING RANK:
WIN% RANK 40t Vanderbilt 0.61538 24 15 0 39
2012 #29 Vanderbilt 22 0 3 19 3.14 1069
2013 #19 Vanderbilt 26 0 5 20 3.15 1870
FRANKLIN: PENN STATE WIN% RANK & RECRUITING RANK:
WIN% RANK 58t Penn State 0.53846 7 6 0 13 Salary $4.5
2014 #24 Penn State 25 0 6 18 3.2 1797
2015 #15 Penn State 25 0 11 14 3.44 2133
CHRYST: PITT WIN% RANK & RECRUITING RANK:
WIN% RANK 76 Pittsburgh 0.48077 25 27 0 52
2012 #47 Pittsburgh 16 0 4 10 3.13 795
2013 #35 Pittsburgh 27 1 2 15 2.81 1568
2014 #44 Pittsburgh 23 0 4 15 3 1428
NARDUZZI RECRUITING RANK:
2015 #69 Pittsburgh 14 0 2 8 2.86 1057
Re: Congratulations Are Not A Vice, Franklin Did What He Promised!
Wimbush and Barajas to NDWilkins to Clemson (hurt the most)Whitehead to PITTBurrell to OSU
If you were really reaching, you could point to Baker and Hilliard but let's be real. They are OH kids and, despite having PSU offers, we were never in the game with them. Living in OH, I can tell you it is much, much different than living in PA where (as a kid) you had PSU, PITT and WVU all being relevant. Not the case here in Ohio - OSU is the only game in town. You could argue Michigan pulls some kids but the other in-state teams are irrelevant.
If you look at PSU's offer list, you will see a lot of kids with OSU offers as well. They weren't in the game with most of them. Burrell was the one that was truly a battle. Just like Gesicki was last year. PITT got just as many of our "must have" kids as OSU did.
Your comment regarding being outrecruited by LJ and OSU is not true. IMO, we lost out on five kids (not including McLean):Originally posted by CaptainSidneyReilly:
Franklin's challenge is not grabbing recruits from Pitt and he did this last week but as shown Penn State Rankings dropped from 10th to 15th in a week too. Urban Meyer's and Larry Johnson out recruited Franklin again, and all of the Big Ten and Franklin's challenge now is to beat OSU, Michigan, and MSU and Pitt 2016-19 with the Players he invited and committed today.
Wimbush and Barajas to NDWilkins to Clemson (hurt the most)Whitehead to PITTBurrell to OSU
If you were really reaching, you could point to Baker and Hilliard but let's be real. They are OH kids and, despite having PSU offers, we were never in the game with them. Living in OH, I can tell you it is much, much different than living in PA where (as a kid) you had PSU, PITT and WVU all being relevant. Not the case here in Ohio - OSU is the only game in town. You could argue Michigan pulls some kids but the other in-state teams are irrelevant.
If you look at PSU's offer list, you will see a lot of kids with OSU offers as well. They weren't in the game with most of them. Burrell was the one that was truly a battle. Just like Gesicki was last year. PITT got just as many of our "must have" kids as OSU did.
Re: Congratulations Are Not A Vice, Franklin Did What He Promised!
Psu has a good class. But OSU signed a better class.
I will be very surprised if Franklin ever out-recruits The Urban Legend, or Jim Harbaugh moving forward.
Psu has a good class. But OSU signed a better class.
I will be very surprised if Franklin ever out-recruits The Urban Legend, or Jim Harbaugh moving forward.
Sorry dogbreath "both schools are to blame for its demise" is not true.....your All Powerful Head Coach, you know the one they checked with to see if they should call the authorities in to stop the abuse of children, that one, he alone is to blame for the interruption in a good rivalry....
Are these pedo lovees banned from thier own site. They think so little of Pitt why do they come here???????? Unless any of you admit the shame of the institution that a coach fired and a Pres and Ad fired and awaiting trial then go to he!! with big joe. He probably still needs you all to change his diapers even down there. There is no ped football whose opinion is worht anything because they are all still in the cult of shame, and are all too stupid to even admit it....
Penn State is supposed to be recruiting against Meyer and Harbaugh but instead measure their recruiting against us. Thry are as irrelevant as we are.
Who complains about class on a message board?
We're all a bunch of anonymous dolts posting our opinions because we either live amongst the enemy (me), have nobody to really tell because our wives hate football and only travel because it's a free weekend trip to Miami, Atlanta or wherever (me), and we work odd hours and have free time when others don't (me). I don't expect to come here to have eloquent conversations with anyone, let alone about the UPS pedophile scandal.
We're all a bunch of anonymous dolts posting our opinions because we either live amongst the enemy (me), have nobody to really tell because our wives hate football and only travel because it's a free weekend trip to Miami, Atlanta or wherever (me), and we work odd hours and have free time when others don't (me). I don't expect to come here to have eloquent conversations with anyone, let alone about the UPS pedophile scandal.
I think you are missing my point. I'm not saying that PSU outrecruited OSU because the numbers show that isn't the case. What I am saying is that OSU and PSU didn't go head-to-head with many kids this year in all out recruiting battles.
Yeah, Michigan does okay in Ohio but just look at the current kids they have from Cleveland. Many of them didn't even have offers from OSU. Michigan State? Please. Everyone knows about their QB but he wasn't even close to getting an offer from OSU. Saying Michigan State can compete against OSU in Ohio is like saying Akron or Cincy can. They can take the scraps that OSU doesn't want but they hardly compete for many players.
And in terms of PSU in Ohio, you have to remember the incompetent recruiter that PSU had assigned to the area for 15+ years. Heck, they would have done as well sending me. Even I could have convinced Michael Zordich to come to Penn State.
Again, OSU outrecruited PSU overall by head-to-head wasn't really a big deal this year.
Yeah, Michigan does okay in Ohio but just look at the current kids they have from Cleveland. Many of them didn't even have offers from OSU. Michigan State? Please. Everyone knows about their QB but he wasn't even close to getting an offer from OSU. Saying Michigan State can compete against OSU in Ohio is like saying Akron or Cincy can. They can take the scraps that OSU doesn't want but they hardly compete for many players.
And in terms of PSU in Ohio, you have to remember the incompetent recruiter that PSU had assigned to the area for 15+ years. Heck, they would have done as well sending me. Even I could have convinced Michael Zordich to come to Penn State.
Again, OSU outrecruited PSU overall by head-to-head wasn't really a big deal this year.
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