Nardo wants an on campus stadium badly for recruiting. Tressel can raise the escarole. Book it.
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Tressel + Nardo = New Pitt Stadium ON CAMPUS
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LOL! This would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. There isn't going to be an on-campus stadium because there are financial priorities at Pitt, and a new stadium isn't one of them. Very simple.
Besides, where is there a Tressel becoming AD? I sure hope not! The new AD needs to know something about Pitt athletics and have some ethics.
Besides, where is there a Tressel becoming AD? I sure hope not! The new AD needs to know something about Pitt athletics and have some ethics.
The next AD needs to focus on what it takes to make Pitt football a winner at all costs. The Nordy days are over!
At all costs huh? You're gonna be disappointed then.
It seems eveident there's more of a commitment but it's not going to be that much.
Simply call the new stadium in Panther Hollow, "UPMC Field"
Much of the financing will follow.
Much of the financing will follow.
"It's the same old song and dance; it's the same old dull routine...It didn't turn out like you planned..." Merry Christmas to the naysayers. May your day be wonderful. And New Pitt Stadium and sugar plums fill your children's dreams.
Tressel may be the AD... but there won't be an on campus stadium in the lifetime of most of us.
Honestly, I would love an on campus stadium. I really like the look and size of U of Minnesota's Stadium. 50,000 is an appropriate size for us. Maybe even go down to 47,500. There is land for a stadium yes, but nothing for parking; which is where the biggest hurdle is.
They should have told the 5 season ticket holders who sit in the upper end zone to shove it when they wanted to close that off for Pitt games. I'm sure they could have found an empty row elsewhere in the stadium to spread out.
They should have told the 5 season ticket holders who sit in the upper end zone to shove it when they wanted to close that off for Pitt games. I'm sure they could have found an empty row elsewhere in the stadium to spread out.
Del, just being realistic.
Heinz field is not the detriment to recruiting that people think it is, not if quotes of recruits are to be believed.
People think the attendance will be better in an on campus stadium, and thats simply false. 4 of the 5 best attendance years, including the best ever (2003), happened in Heinz.
The access to Oakland is horrible. Even sold out Heinz games like the PSU, people within 30 miles of the city can get home in an hour. At Pitt Stadium, even games that were half full took 2 hours to get out of and there was NO place to tailgate.
People have this romanticized vision of Pitt Stadium that gets more outlandish as time goes by. There was literally nothing about The experience at Pitt Stadium that was better than Heinz. Nothing. I was a season ticket holder for the last 15 years of Pitt Stadium and now the first 16 years of Heinz. There was absolutely nothing better about Pitt Stadium... worse sight lines (farther from field), uncomfortable, worse amenities, no parking, poor access.
The ONLY advantage is for the current students, and thats it.
But for the vast majority of fans, Heinz is many times better than Pitt Stadium... and it isn't close.
Also... USC and Miami don't play on campus. The Coliseum is farther from USC's campus than Heinz is from Oakland. And Miami plays a half hour from campus. Neither school has issues with recruiting.
Heinz field is not the detriment to recruiting that people think it is, not if quotes of recruits are to be believed.
People think the attendance will be better in an on campus stadium, and thats simply false. 4 of the 5 best attendance years, including the best ever (2003), happened in Heinz.
The access to Oakland is horrible. Even sold out Heinz games like the PSU, people within 30 miles of the city can get home in an hour. At Pitt Stadium, even games that were half full took 2 hours to get out of and there was NO place to tailgate.
People have this romanticized vision of Pitt Stadium that gets more outlandish as time goes by. There was literally nothing about The experience at Pitt Stadium that was better than Heinz. Nothing. I was a season ticket holder for the last 15 years of Pitt Stadium and now the first 16 years of Heinz. There was absolutely nothing better about Pitt Stadium... worse sight lines (farther from field), uncomfortable, worse amenities, no parking, poor access.
The ONLY advantage is for the current students, and thats it.
But for the vast majority of fans, Heinz is many times better than Pitt Stadium... and it isn't close.
Also... USC and Miami don't play on campus. The Coliseum is farther from USC's campus than Heinz is from Oakland. And Miami plays a half hour from campus. Neither school has issues with recruiting.
I respect your opinion but as an alum, I can honestly say I miss being on campus, which is a huge part of going to games particularly for those of us who travel 300 miles 6-7 times per year to see a game. I'm sure a lot of others feel the same way. The traffic, congestion in Oakland I'd have to contend with to attend games there doesn't bother me a whit. It's hard to confirm precisely what the impact Heinz has on recruiting but I am absolutely certain that Pitt not having it's own stadium is a big part of negative recruiting used against Pitt... I believe that pitch does resonate with certain recruits.
Also you can't minimize the importance of the lousy student attendance at Heinz . Why is Pitt attendance poor? In part because the fan base continues to shrink because too few students develop the habit of going to games and become a part of the fan base. My daughter is a junior at Pitt and she and her friends HATE that round trip bus ride to and from the games and and their tolerance for the trip has only decreased since they were freshmen. Students are usually the very core of fan support and are a big part of the atmosphere at games. That trumps better concession stands, restrooms and a whole bunch of other subidiary issues in my mind.
Why has the Oakland Zoo had such poor turnouts over the past few years? Pitt was a Top 15 program from 2001-2011. Why has attendance overall at the Pete dropped dramatically?
The answer to that is easy: ugly BB, crummy home OOC schedule, no star power on the team and the general view that the ceiling of those teams was low. Add to that, the disappearance of the old BE rivalry games dampened enthusiasm. For 10 years the view was that Pitt was building toward something special in BB- gust view went up in smoke in DC with that loss to Butler. I love Pitt BB and I and my fiends said on many occasions during the period of 2011-2015 that what we were watching on the floor was plain boring!
The Oakland Zoo was one of the best in nation from 2001-2011 because Pitt was WINNING. People want to see a winner, and Pitt won a ton of games during that stretch. If Pitt football won at that clip, then Heinz would have more people. The 2 realistic solutions are downsizing Heinz to around 50k and work with the city to get a better mass transit system in and around the city connecting all parts including Oakland.
Quite frankly, the only person I can think of that has the kind of money you'd need to get this project going is David Tepper. He is connected to CMU and Pitt, so maybe they could create a complex that contains a stadium as well as academic facilities that could be used by both schools. That is a long shot and possibly your only hope from my vantage point.
I'm going to waaayyyy out on limb here- I bet she has no problems getting to and back from the Southside on a random Saturday night of bar hopping.
What exactly are you complaining about? If you want to be on campus stay on campus. The 15 minute drive to get the game is in no way keeping you off campus. Hell, I have been on the UW campus for a football game and further from Camp Randall than you would be from Heinz.
What exactly are you complaining about? If you want to be on campus stay on campus. The 15 minute drive to get the game is in no way keeping you off campus. Hell, I have been on the UW campus for a football game and further from Camp Randall than you would be from Heinz.
I'm sure winning consistently would improve attendance. College FB, however, was meant to be played in on campus stadiums. That's why only a handful of schools don't.
We can go around the mulberry bush with this forever... For the last15 years at Pitt stadium, Pitt wasn't worth watching by anyone.
Undoubtedly... But an on campus stadium is still the preferred option... The North side is for vagrants and the Rooneys.
No one argues that an on campus stadium is not the preferred option. But "preferred" to you and a handful of zealots includes choosing to ignore any current economic or empirical data that refutes your emotional hunger pangs.
Keep hitching your wagon to a guy who plays make believe with a website a ten year old could create. By the way...the guy doesn't know leafy greens from a financial process. Good luck with that.
The LA Coliseum is literally across the street from USC's campus. The only reason its not considered on-campus is because USC doesn't own it and its not USC's land. The best comparison would be if the city of Pittsburgh put a stadium across the street from Bouquet Gardens but considered it an off-campus stadium since Pitt didn't own it. The LA Coliseum is basically on-campus. FWIW, they also tore down the Clippers' old arena across the street and building a new MLS Stadium for the LAFC expansion team.
Speaking of MLS stadiums on or near college campuses, there are plans to privately finance an MLS stadium on the campus of Saint Louis University and the LA Galaxy's stadium is on the campus of Cal State-Dominguez Hills. FC Cincinnati's inaugural season in USL was such an astronomical success playing at Nippert Stadium that they are a front-runner for MLS promotion.
I've been saying for years that with the explosion of the MLS, somebody needs to explore a joint Pitt/MLS stadium.
In other words, being on campus is IRRELEVANT. Your argument about Heinz is shredded by your own response to the Pete. I guess some just want to be able to complain every way. And congrats you are the lead complainer and whiner, which keeps people away more than your double standard location .
In other words, no, dope. Only an idiot would infer what you did from what I actually said.
The only way an on campus stadium will work is if its:
-used by other U's and HS's for soccer, field hockey and football games maybe a mecca for championship games
- band competitions. HS's with competitive traveling bands draw tons of people to their band competitions
- it might be constructed to hold track and field events PITT, other U's, running clubs, and HS's
And has sufficient parking, and access/egress/bypasses which could include remote parking with shuttle service to the stadium.
It might even improve the terrible road conditions in the University area with bypasses and remote shuttle access parking!
You'd be surprised what the professionals " shoehorn" into the NYCity landscape. Its possible and it will be creative!
-used by other U's and HS's for soccer, field hockey and football games maybe a mecca for championship games
- band competitions. HS's with competitive traveling bands draw tons of people to their band competitions
- it might be constructed to hold track and field events PITT, other U's, running clubs, and HS's
And has sufficient parking, and access/egress/bypasses which could include remote parking with shuttle service to the stadium.
It might even improve the terrible road conditions in the University area with bypasses and remote shuttle access parking!
You'd be surprised what the professionals " shoehorn" into the NYCity landscape. Its possible and it will be creative!
Bring the MLS to Pittsburgh! A joint stadium might not be a bad idea. Only thing I'd worry about is that could potentially leave Pitt in a whole other part of Pittsburgh that still isn't Oakland.
What is everyone smoking? First off the MLS isn't coming to Pittsburgh, the market can't support a fourth pro team and there's no way they'd get a dime from the city, county or state to build a stadium. Second, why would Pitt move from Heinz Field to be the #2 team in a friggin ballerina ball stadium?
Uhhhh.......a track makes for a worse stadium. The possibility comment is correct....reality is different. It makes NO FISCAL sense.
I'll bet the comment about proximity was referring to UCLA -- the hike from Westwood (campus) to Pasadena (Rose Bowl), and not USC.
As an aside Field Hockey? Big sport that I could never understand?
Why give sticks to a bunch of charged up, angry women, blow a whistle and let them beat the "he-l" out of eachother.
My wife commented if they had that sport back in the day the HS girls in her school hated eachother so much there'd be bodies all over the place?
