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Some kids want to be part of a championship team like Alabama or like the atmosphere at ND. Nothing wrong with that, good for them.

Some kids are focused on their careers and getting to the NFL. They are looking to play early and make themselves known to the NFL scouts. Fitzgerald said he could catch more balls at Pitt. Those are the kids I would prefer to have, no matter where they happen to be from.

Scouts don't watch Bama and ND practices looking for 2nd and 3rd stringers who might have been stars at Pitt, they watch Pitt games to see kids who are stars at Pitt. You have to play, hopefully early. You could become a Fitzgerald or Boyd. Not every kid that goes to Bama is Julio Jones, or gets to the NFL. Not every NFL player is from a school like Bama or ND. I don't know anything about their offers coming out of HS, but maybe guys like Antonio Brown or Jerry Rice never get a shot at the pros if an elite program had an extra scholarship to offer and then buried them early behind a bunch of 4 and 5 stars. Maybe Foster could be in a position similar to Boyd today. Unfortunately for him, he'll never know.

Despite the whining on this board, it may be that maybe Jeter needed Pitt as much as Pitt needed Jeter. Or maybe I'm selling him short on his decision making. He has been to Pitt so often he is probably well aware of Camp, Wheeler and Watts and saw more potential playing time at ND.

In any case, even if you never make an NFL roster but have a nice college career, you will be remembered fondly if you do it at a school local to where you were a HS star. Go somewhere else, you were just another cog in the wheel, a serviceable body plugged into their system.
 
Except that most kids think they are superstars and will play early at Bama, Ohio St, ND. Every kid is different. Some kids focus on depth chart, some kids focus on tradition, and the bizarre ones focus on attendance.
 
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What's interesting about college football is that whether a particular recruit comes or doesn't come to a school can have a domino effect for a couple of years on that school's recruiting. And the effect can be good or bad.

Take Jeter for example. The fact that he goes to ND is bad for us for now (perhaps), but now we go after someone else, or not, and maybe it leads to us getting an impactful player next year, who would never have come to Pitt with underclassmen like Camp, Watt, Wheeler and Jeter all here...

Interesting to watch the dynamics.

Go Pitt.
 
Except that most kids think they are superstars and will play early at Bama, Ohio St, ND. Every kid is different. Some kids focus on depth chart, some kids focus on tradition, and the bizarre ones focus on attendance.


This right here, these kids read into the bullshit clippings. Can they go and play for these schools probably, by their junior year. Also why not go somewhere and make the change? Be a leader round up the local best and say let's bring this shit back to prominence!!!
 
There are other kids who are not fully into football or they are more hype than substance, but are good enough to get 'ships. These kids go to school to take advantage of the free ride and all the benefits of college. For example, Nick Marmo.
 
Except that most kids think they are superstars and will play early at Bama, Ohio St, ND. Every kid is different. Some kids focus on depth chart, some kids focus on tradition, and the bizarre ones focus on attendance.
This and the OP clearly doesn't get the commitment, all the way through the alumni base, at top programs. They have booster clubs who pay former players, who didn't even start, to speak and play in golf tournaments. They support them with jobs and business to a level Pitt couldn't come close to. That certainly applies to ND.
 
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This and the OP clearly doesn't get the commitment, all the way through the alumni base, at top programs. They have booster clubs who pay former players, who didn't even start, to speak and play in golf tournaments. They support them with jobs and business to a level Pitt couldn't come close to. That certainly applies to ND.

I think this played a large part on Jeter's decision.

Kid could have gone anywhere....he chose a school that offers far more after football than OSU, Bama et al.
 
I think this played a large part on Jeter's decision.

Kid could have gone anywhere....he chose a school that offers far more after football than OSU, Bama et al.
ND isn't above those two schools in that realm for a kid like Jeter. But those programs are miles ahead of Pitt.
 
Really??

Outside of football, Alabama is equal to Notre Dame?
In alumni support for football players because they played football? Yes. I know walk ons who played at Alabama who get paid to speak to UA groups and have been setup or supported to great careers almost exclusively because they played at Alabama.

Almost assured Donovan Jeter isn't getting anything more out of an ND degree than the football obsessed alumni allow him. Otherwise he is likely applying for jobs as a middling graduate of a slightly better school (but not necessarily better program) with a degree in something that probably isn't very applicable.

ND fans will offer a lot, but so will the alumni/fans of the truly elite programs.
 
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