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Tyler Boyd’s 40

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time was 4.58 which is average. Fastest time ever…..Bo Jackson at 4.12!

Why don’t they make the players run in their football gear? It is not like they are going to be playing in short, shirt and spikes!
 
Bo's numbers aside, most agree that Boyd has been the most impressive WR overall at the combine so far.

As an aside, Hackenburg couldn't hit an open receiver 10 yards down the field.
 
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Sounds good for Tyler, speed was never his forte at the DI level, so running an "average" time does not work against him . His ability to catch the ball in traffic (strong hands) and around the sideline/end-line set him apart from "good" DI receivers, IMHO.
 
Charley Casserly ‏@CharleyCasserly 9h9 hours ago
Best WR WO's from 1st group from drills/40's were: Boyd(Pitt), Doctson(TCU), Fuller(ND) and Lewis(Bowling Green) @NFLCombine @nflnetwork
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 9h9 hours ago
WR that jumped out watching live? #Pitt's Tyler Boyd. Sticky hands. Ran crisp routes. As they say, he looked part of #NFL receiver
Dion Caputi ‏@nfldraftupdate 9h9 hours ago
Pitt WR Tyler Boyd ran pretty well; displayed superior off-body hands. One of the notables going into the day who lived up to expectations.
Joe Marino ‏@TheJoeMarino 10h10 hours ago
Rashard Higgins, Tyler Boyd and Josh Doctson have dominated this gauntlet drill so far. Soft, natural hands. They can do this in their sleep
 
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daminals76 said:
Bo's 40 was hand timed.

Nobody would run a 4.12 with the current set up, not even Carl Lewis or Usain Bolt.
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It is kind of "accepted practice" that hand timed 40s are 0.24 seconds less than electronic ones. Given that, if Bo ran a 4.12 40 (and I have never heard that before and I seriously doubt it is true) that would be the approximate equivalent to someone running a 4.36 40 today.

Chris Johnson ran the fastest 40 ever at the NFL combine, an electronically timed 4.24.
 
Joe the Panther Fan said:
It is kind of "accepted practice" that hand timed 40s are 0.24 seconds less than electronic ones. Given that, if Bo ran a 4.12 40 (and I have never heard that before and I seriously doubt it is true) that would be the approximate equivalent to someone running a 4.36 40 today.

Chris Johnson ran the fastest 40 ever at the NFL combine, an electronically timed 4.24.
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Skeets Nehemiah....4.12.
 
I remember at some point during Lee McRae's short Pitt football career it was said he ran a 3.96 or something like that.

Lee was a hell of a nice guy who lived on floor #6 at Tower C at the same time I did. Funny how you remember stuff like that.

I remember him returning a few kickoffs without much success and running some pass patterns without ever seeing the ball.
 
McRae ran a 4.18 at the time when he was the world record holder in the indoor 60 yard dash. That's why I say that the notion that Jackson ran a "legitimate" 4.12 is most likely fiction. Not saying that someone didn't have him at that on a manual stop watch, just saying that it's an inherent flaw of hand timing something like a 40 yard dash.
 
A couple of points here:

* Mike Mayock said he was a bit disappointed in the 40 time but raved about how easy it was for Tyler in the Gauntlet Drill.

* Jerry Rice - arguably the greatest receiver in NFL history - was reported to have run a 40 time reported anywhere from 4.59 - 4.70 and says "40 times don't mean s**t." Rice was a YAC guy (yards after catch)

* The current king of NFL receivers Antonio Brown 40 time as reported on the NFL network yesterday - 4.59. Admittedly, AB is more quick than fast and has god-like route running ability.

* Larry Fitz had a 4.48 pro-day 40 time - not blazing - but has been gifted with an amazing ability to catch the ball.

Here's the point: Receivers put on pads and can excel on the field in a number of different ways. On field production is perhaps the far biggest indicator of success at the next level. Tyler Boyd walks the walk in that category.

Lastly, they call it the Underwear Olympics for a reason. Check out another well known NFL legend at his combine. Guess deflate-gate hit the pecs.

Tom-Brady-2000-Combine.jpg
 
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Bo Jackson was a freakish athlete and a helluva player whose career ended far too soon. However, some of the urban legend around that guy has gotten out of hand.

I am not doubting the OP. I have no doubt that somebody at the draft combine said that he ran a 4.12/40. I just think that person was mistaken or not telling the whole story.

As someone who actually saw him play, he was a great player but, aside from Techmo Bowl, he wasn't the best RB I've ever seen. Also, he's not the fastest player I've ever seen or even among the top five fastest players I have ever seen play.

Again, that is not to say that he wasn't incredibly fast - especially for a bigger guy. As I said, he was an absolute freak of an athlete and those don't come around all the time.

I am just saying that he was not as fast as Deion Sanders, Darrell Green, Chris Johnson, etc. Now, he was a solid 30-40 pounds heavier than all those guys so take that into account too. However, from a pure speed perspective, he was a notch down.
 
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I recall hearing that of McRae as well. A world class sprinter will cover 40 yds below 4 seconds once at top speed.
 
I heard that Darrell Green could run a 4.6 backpedaling. Remember someone telling me this when I was in grade school, no I have no proof and there is a decent chance this was made up by a 12 year old and passed off on the playground as fact..
 
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9nationalchampionships said:
time was 4.58 which is average. Fastest time ever…..Bo Jackson at 4.12!

Why don’t they make the players run in their football gear? It is not like they are going to be playing in short, shirt and spikes!
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That's quite a bit worse than average. 23rd percentile for WRs. Bad 40s can be overcome, but it absolutely matters. I still believe in his ball skills and route running, but 4.6 is disappointing. See link: http://www.mockdraftable.com/player/5882/
 
i agree that TB’s time may keep him out of the 2nd round but he is going to be a hell of a slot WR in the NFL. Some smart GM may see the hands, body control and YAC and take him in the late 2nd round.

GrowthHormone said:
That's quite a bit worse than average. 23rd percentile for WRs. Bad 40s can be overcome, but it absolutely matters. I still believe in his ball skills and route running, but 4.6 is disappointing. See link: http://www.mockdraftable.com/player/5882/
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Joe the Panther Fan said:
It is kind of "accepted practice" that hand timed 40s are 0.24 seconds less than electronic ones. Given that, if Bo ran a 4.12 40 (and I have never heard that before and I seriously doubt it is true) that would be the approximate equivalent to someone running a 4.36 40 today.

Chris Johnson ran the fastest 40 ever at the NFL combine, an electronically timed 4.24.
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Bo running a 4.36 at his weight and strength is pretty sick to think about though...he wasn't like Johnson who was all speed/quickness.
 
Swervin27 said:
I heard that Darrell Green could run a 4.6 backpedaling. Remember someone telling me this when I was in grade school, no I have no proof and there is a decent chance this was made up by a 12 year old and passed off on the playground as fact..
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As a fan of a team who played Green twice a year, he was one of the 5 best CBs ever...the first of what I call the modern shut down CB.
 
Dri Archer ran a 4.26.. Forever giving the "40 times are useless" crowd great ammunition for their argument..
 
One of the slowest WR ever is Fred Biletnikoff and he was inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame in 1988 and was voted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1991. The Biletnikoff Award, awarded annually to the best wide receiver in college football since 1994, was named in his honor. In 1999, Biletnikoff was ranked number 94 on The Sporting News list of the "100 Greatest Football Players"! So I guess the "need for speed" can be misleading!
 
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One of the slowest WR ever is Fred Biletnikoff and he was inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame in 1988 and was voted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1991. The Biletnikoff Award, awarded annually to the best wide receiver in college football since 1994, was named in his honor. In 1999, Biletnikoff was ranked number 94 on The Sporting News list of the "100 Greatest Football Players"! So I guess the "need for speed" can be misleading!
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Don't forget Raymond Berry (famous for being Johnny Unitas' favorite target), who was Biletnikoff a decade before Biletnikoff.
 
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Check out this site comparing his combine to the other receivers: http://www.mockdraftable.com/player/5882/

I don't think Boyd's 40 time will hold him back once he gets in the league, but it will lower his draft stock. That could mean that he'll go to a team that already has a good QB and No. 1 receiver and set him up for a very good career.
 
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Burgh15 said:
Check out this site comparing his combine to the other receivers: http://www.mockdraftable.com/player/5882/

I don't think Boyd's 40 time will hold him back once he gets in the league, but it will lower his draft stock. That could mean that he'll go to a team that already has a good QB and No. 1 receiver and set him up for a very good career.
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Well, he had no chance of being a top 10 pick, so, after that, it is an absolute crap shoot of what kind of team he will go to.
 
According to NFL.com, the best 40 times for wide receivers since 2006:

Marquise Goodwin
Jacoby Ford
JJ Nelson
Yamon Figurs
Darrius Heyward Bey
Will Fuller
Jason Hill
Chad Jackson
Brandin Cooks
Phillip Dorsett
Mike Willace
Tavon Austin
John Brown
Johnny Knox
Willie Reid

How many of those guys had productive NFL careers?
 
I think there may be some legitimacy to this bo Jackson thing.. Electronically timed according to him.

 
I just saw a reputable site that said Treadwell is the #1 X receiver in the draft and Boyd is the #1 Z receiver in the draft....so who knows how this will all shape up when the draft starts
 
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