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See that is the problem. They have all the capable skill position players in the world. They don't have an Oline. Stop talking about skill position guys. We should go into the next draft and pick all Oline. Seriously...every pick. Conner was not the problem with the run game. Ben is not the problem now. The Oline has been subpar for the past 2 years and this yea it is abysmal. I do think they will be better towards the end of the year but they will be to far behind for it to matter.Not gonna lie. I just want the Steelers to embrace the tank. Do it. Pick up your QB and build around him and Harris.
exactly a 1st rd pick on a rb is a waste and always will be. najee is really good but rb is such a replaceable position in the nfl.See that is the problem. They have all the capable skill position players in the world. They don't have an Oline. Stop talking about skill position guys. We should go into the next draft and pick all Oline. Seriously...every pick. Conner was not the problem with the run game. Ben is not the problem now. The Oline has been subpar for the past 2 years and this yea it is abysmal. I do think they will be better towards the end of the year but they will be to far behind for it to matter.
Yep by the time the line becomes comparable he will already be beat to shitexactly a 1st rd pick on a rb is a waste and always will be. najee is really good but rb is such a replaceable position in the nfl.
Yep. Also worth mentioning just how much of chore it is to watch Steelers games this year. Their offense consists of Najee running the ball up the middle for nothing, short passes to Juju that go for five yards or receiver screens that get blown up in the backfield. Pitt, on the other hand, is actually fun to watch on offense for the first time since 2016.The Steelers are bad. Pitt needs to capitalize on this and have a memorable season
I dont think the fan bases overlap as much as you think. It should, in theory it should but sadly it doesn’t.The Steelers are bad. Pitt needs to capitalize on this and have a memorable season
Stuck it to an already bad Steelers team w/ several key players out. Good for him, but not really that awesome to brag about. You obviously just don’t like the SteelersNice to see..always liked the kid
Ben is the problem as he has been as he continues to underperform his contract leaving no room under the cap to rebuild O-Line IMO! Of course I have limited knowledge of how the cap worksSee that is the problem. They have all the capable skill position players in the world. They don't have an Oline. Stop talking about skill position guys. We should go into the next draft and pick all Oline. Seriously...every pick. Conner was not the problem with the run game. Ben is not the problem now. The Oline has been subpar for the past 2 years and this yea it is abysmal. I do think they will be better towards the end of the year but they will be to far behind for it to matter.
Watching Ben scramble is comical. Huge steeler fan, like Ben but he’s a punch line now. That scramble in first quarter belonged in a Benny hill skit.Ben is the problem as he has been as he continues to underperform his contract leaving no room under the cap to rebuild O-Line IMO! Of course I have limited knowledge of how the cap works
There are a few narratives here that make no sense to me. Just like the past few years at Pitt, the OL is terrible. No one plays well with a bad OL. when Ben had time he was very accurate. I think it’s a case of people wanting him to be old and over the hill. Put Burrow behind that line and how does he do?Big Ben is now officially a Has Ben.
He looks old and pretty docile back there.
This O line will get him killed.
Steelers haven't seen anything like this for a loooooooong time.
Is this a light QB year in the draft? If so, just their luck!
Ben was awful, absolutely terrible. He made zero plays. I like Ben, I’m a die hard fan but come in, he didn’t make one good play today. Not one even remotely good throw.There are a few narratives here that make no sense to me. Just like the past few years at Pitt, the OL is terrible. No one plays well with a bad OL. when Ben had time he was very accurate. I think it’s a case of people wanting him to be old and over the hill. Put Burrow behind that line and how does he do?
Agree. Totally agree. 4-5 wins (at most) is what this franchise needs. An 8-9 season would be the worst.Not gonna lie. I just want the Steelers to embrace the tank. Do it. Pick up your QB and build around him and Harris.
I watched 88% Ryder's Cup (though not much of a drama) and 12% Stillers.Big Ben is now officially a Has Ben.
He looks old and pretty docile back there.
This O line will get him killed.
Steelers haven't seen anything like this for a loooooooong time.
Is this a light QB year in the draft? If so, just their luck!
I have said this to my other half. Totally agree as well.Agree. Totally agree. 4-5 wins (at most) is what this franchise needs. An 8-9 season would be the worst.
I saw a different game from you. I saw a guy getting hit literally every pass play and throwing through arms when he wasn't. He still scrambled and made plays. His interception was awful. then again, Ben has thrown picks like that his whole career, such as SB against the Seahawks.Ben was awful, absolutely terrible. He made zero plays. I like Ben, I’m a die hard fan but come in, he didn’t make one good play today. Not one even remotely good throw.
Yeah, o line is an abortion but Ben is a liability too.
Stop this nonsense. He looks awful, slow to the point of it being laughable when he tries to move around the pocket and his accuracy is gone. He’s over and won’t make it 3 more games. We should have moved on and he should have retired.I saw a different game from you. I saw a guy getting hit literally every pass play and throwing through arms when he wasn't. He still scrambled and made plays. His interception was awful. then again, Ben has thrown picks like that his whole career, such as SB against the Seahawks.
The narrative is that he is too old, and people just buy into it. I saw a QB today who threw the way all QBs throw when people are in their faces, yet I also saw him throw balls to tightly covered WRs in places that only they could catch them. There were a number like that on the sideline to Claypoole where only Claypoole could get his hands on them.
If you're going to criticize Ben for the fact that he's playing behind a line starting two rookies, two 2nd year players, and a 3rd year/first year starter, then you also should talk about how Najee Harris has been a wasted pick and wasn't worth the high draft status because he still hasn't run for over 50 yards in a game.
I learned from watching Pitt. When the line stinks, everyone else stinks.
Not nonsense. He looks awful because the line in front of him is awful. do you think Najee Harris looks good? Because as far as I can tell he looks like he's running for Pitt. You think Brady would look good or old behind this line? The nonsense is the insistence by fans that problems are always rooted in one individual, not the team around them. You assume Ben should be able to overcome everything going on around him, and when he can't it's because he's too old? That's just lazy narrative going along with the crowd.Stop this nonsense. He looks awful, slow to the point of it being laughable when he tries to move around the pocket and his accuracy is gone. He’s over and won’t make it 3 more games. We should have moved on and he should have retired.
Steelers end this season with 5 wins at the most.Nice to see..always liked the kid
Which would be much better than 8-9 and "just missing" the playoffs. I am going to write a long post in the next day just ripping the Steelers as an organization to shreds. They have become stale, arrogant and in many ways, incompetent.Steelers end this season with 5 wins at the most.
I’m definitely looking forward to this. They have been exposed once again as frauds.Which would be much better than 8-9 and "just missing" the playoffs. I am going to write a long post in the next day just ripping the Steelers as an organization to shreds. They have become stale, arrogant and in many ways, incompetent.
Another one?Which would be much better than 8-9 and "just missing" the playoffs. I am going to write a long post in the next day just ripping the Steelers as an organization to shreds. They have become stale, arrogant and in many ways, incompetent.
The Steelers biggest mistake was sticking with Ben after last year. That was it for him.
If they had a chance to pick up Darnold for a fair trade, they should have done it. Instead, they made a poor bet on an old QB coming off a major injury and it isn't working.
The O line is another area where they stayed too long with long toothed vets. The C and G were over the hill, and their infatuation with Villanueva was bizarre given his performance.
Pretty hard to argue about their moves on defense. That defense when healthy is stout.
The Tomlin debate will never die. The thing there is who would be better?
I think they deferred to BigBen too much in certain personnel decisions, especially with the O line.Some things I hated at the time and I think have shaped up to turn out for the worst:
1) I did not like giving up all those picks for Bush. He just so happened to be the consensus second-best MLB in the draft, but he still wasn't anything close to top 10 worthy. Hated it at the time; hate it now. Those are picks that could have been used on rebuilding the o-line.
2) Shouldn't have let Feiler walk. He should be a starting tackle.
3) No way should Ben be the quarterback this year. I wanted to make a play for Darnold, but I was also fine if they wanted to tank with Rudolph. Having said that, Ben may be worse than Rudolph right now, and that's not an easy feat.
There were also some personnel misses, such as drafting Edmunds, that everyone hated... but every team does that.
I think they deferred to BigBen too much in certain personnel decisions, especially with the O line.
Bush has been disappointing, but he did show flashes. They were infatuated with the sideline to sideline MLB but Shazier was a one of a kind freak. That was a horribly bad break for the Steelers, no pun intended.