UCF, Coastal Carolina, Cincinnati, Boise State...

[Pitt79]

... AND NOTRE DAME!!!

Teams like that don't ever deserve a chance in the playoff, they won't have a chance, it will be a blowout!

Well in reality, UCF, Coastal Carolina, Cincinnati, Boise State might deserve a chance, you see, they've never gotten one, but ND is PROVEN to NEVER DEVERVE A CHANCE EVER AGAIN, they have PROVEN they can't compete at that level, time and time again, 0-7 losing by 20 on average since 1998. Garbage program, G5s deserve a chance, they've had too many and should be shut out going forward, based on HISTORY and their TRADTION and the EYE TEST where everyone sees they ALWAYS GET SMOKED.

 

[303vND]

Can’t disagree with anything you wrote. They keep getting special treatment like they’re the hot girl from high school who shows up at the 20 year class reunion wearing a short skirt but 60 pounds heavier thinking she’s still hot.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

... AND NOTRE DAME!!!

Teams like that don't ever deserve a chance in the playoff, they won't have a chance, it will be a blowout!

Well in reality, UCF, Coastal Carolina, Cincinnati, Boise State might deserve a chance, you see, they've never gotten one, but ND is PROVEN to NEVER DEVERVE A CHANCE EVER AGAIN, they have PROVEN they can't compete at that level, time and time again, 0-7 losing by 20 on average since 1998. Garbage program, G5s deserve a chance, they've had too many and should be shut out going forward, based on HISTORY and their TRADTION and the EYE TEST where everyone sees they ALWAYS GET SMOKED.

I don't think the current model is sustainable. College football will become more regionalized and only the hard core fans will remain if it is always Alabama, OSU, Clemson, LSU or ND in the playoffs. More eyes will turn off the TV, especially if they only allow the playoffs to be on NYD when it is the Rose/Sugar bowl. Plus the remaining bowl games are becoming more meaningless than ever with all the opt outs.

 

[Pitt79]

I don't think the current model is sustainable. College football will become more regionalized and only the hard core fans will remain if it is always Alabama, OSU, Clemson, LSU or ND in the playoffs. More eyes will turn off the TV, especially if they only allow the playoffs to be on NYD when it is the Rose/Sugar bowl. Plus the remaining bowl games are becoming more meaningless than ever with all the opt outs.

I didn't really watch yesterday, I watched a lot of the Cincy/Georgia game while working out at Planet Fitness, then watched like 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter of BAMA/ND realizing it was a crappy game because ND was let in when they NEVER deserve to be, because they are a crap program, in on name recognition, sort of like the media every year telling US that BOTTOM FEEDER Dallas Cowboys are a good team, then I watched the first 4 episodes of Cobra Kai Season 3 on Netflix, then a few minutes of Clemson/tOSU near the end, seeing that wasn't interesting either, bad games, with 4 programs that I never want to watch anymore.

 

[Pitt79]

Cincy vs. Georgia was a good game. Army vs. WVU was entertaining, trying to see if Army could win with that all run option offense, Coastal vs. Liberty was another good game. Plus it's just refreshing to see OTHERS and not Bama, Clemson, tOSU and ND or the random SEC also ran LSU or Georgia.

 

[wbrpanther]

I don't think the current model is sustainable. College football will become more regionalized and only the hard core fans will remain if it is always Alabama, OSU, Clemson, LSU or ND in the playoffs. More eyes will turn off the TV, especially if they only allow the playoffs to be on NYD when it is the Rose/Sugar bowl. Plus the remaining bowl games are becoming more meaningless than ever with all the opt outs.

THE OBJECT IS TO IDENTIFY THE BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. If the same teams are at the top every year that's not the committee's problem. The best two teams will play for the title. As it is designed. Everybody was weeping and wailing because tOSU got in. I guess the committee was right. As far as opt outs you won't see that again if the pandemic subsides. It was a one off.

 

[cashisking884]

In the end, none of those teams deserved it. Maybe ND didn’t as well, but somebody had to be the 4th team.

It’s just funny that people think the playoffs should be expanded. It’s a struggle to find 4 teams that belong.

 

[ameoba defense]

In the end, none of those teams deserved it. Maybe ND didn’t as well, but somebody had to be the 4th team.

It’s just funny that people think the playoffs should be expanded. It’s a struggle to find 4 teams that belong.

Still, it's a question of fairness. Go to 8 teams. Five P5 champions, the best G5, provided they're in the top 12. Use the same criteria for independents. Then the best at large. This year it would have been Oklahoma, Oregon, Cincy, and A&M added to the field. How does this hurt anyone? Maybe a team like Cincy makes the field on a regular basis and becomes a serious player. It's sure worked for Gonzaga, which has gone from a nice little story, to one of the monsters in college hoops.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

I’m sure people will still be tuned in when UCF, Coastal Carolina, Cincinnati, Boise State, etc. are losing 35-0 to Bama at the end of the first half. The advertisers and sponsors will love that.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

THE OBJECT IS TO IDENTIFY THE BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. If the same teams are at the top every year that's not the committee's problem. The best two teams will play for the title. As it is designed. Everybody was weeping and wailing because tOSU got in. I guess the committee was right. As far as opt outs you won't see that again if the pandemic subsides. It was a one off.

No. The object is to play playoffs. Let them play. Who ever wins. I mean if we just select who the best is, then let's eliminate the playoffs and just go back to the bowls. The Steelers won the Super Bowl in 2005 as a Wild Card team. If we were just selecting the "4 best" teams, they wouldn't have been selected.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

No. The object is to play playoffs. Let them play. Who ever wins. I mean if we just select who the best is, then let's eliminate the playoffs and just go back to the bowls. The Steelers won the Super Bowl in 2005 as a Wild Card team. If we were just selecting the "4 best" teams, they wouldn't have been selected.

The NFL and College are completely different. If you lose in the NFL, then you get rewarded with the first pick. If you lose in college football, then the disparity gets wider. In the NFL there is a salary cap. In college there is about a $50 million + difference in spending between an elite school and a bottom feeder. There is absolutely no comparison between the likelihood of Coastal Carolina and a Wild Card team winning the championship.

 

[TDinTheSnow]

IDK..It seems to me that sports is about every team having an opportunity of winning a championship on the field (or diamond or court or rink or pitch)..
Somehow they have playoffs in every other level of NCAA football, something like 28 teams..
Is there any other "sport" where the top 4 playoff teams are just randomly subjectively selected ?
Who doesn't love the Cinderella team ?...To me it just seems antithetical to the spirit of "sports" ...

 

[Upg bobcat]

No. The object is to play playoffs. Let them play. Who ever wins. I mean if we just select who the best is, then let's eliminate the playoffs and just go back to the bowls. The Steelers won the Super Bowl in 2005 as a Wild Card team. If we were just selecting the "4 best" teams, they wouldn't have been selected.

Personally, I think the object should be to create a tournament of the teams worthy of being declared national champion ... and in my opinion, any team that runs the table against its schedule deserves a shot at being national champion (so I would say Cincinnati and even Coastal Carolina deserved shots this year -- and yes, I know they both lost their bowl games), and should get a chance to play the other teams that did enough over the course of the entire season to earn a chance to play for a national championship. That's the whole reason why I believe the postseason tournament should just be made up of the conference champions.

If the goal was just to select the best team in the country as of early January, then you would simply look to see who is playing the best at the end of the season. But I think a national championship should be more than just who's hot in late November, early December and January -- yes, being hot in a conference championship game and in a post-season tournament against the supposed other top teams should be part of earning the national championship, but there should also be more to it.

 

[cashisking884]

Still, it's a question of fairness. Go to 8 teams. Five P5 champions, the best G5, provided they're in the top 12. Use the same criteria for independents. Then the best at large. This year it would have been Oklahoma, Oregon, Cincy, and A&M added to the field. How does this hurt anyone? Maybe a team like Cincy makes the field on a regular basis and becomes a serious player. It's sure worked for Gonzaga, which has gone from a nice little story, to one of the monsters in college hoops.

college basketball and college football are not close to being the same.

None of the teams you mentioned belong on the field with Alabama or OSU.

At best the argument is that ND doesn’t either.

 

[TDinTheSnow]

..teams like Alabama and Clemson, who are always in BCS, get many good recruits because kids know they'll have a chance to play for a championship.. it's a self feeding loop..
If NCAA can have 28 team playoff in every other level of football, I just can't see objection to adding it one more level of football..
Money and power is the only thing I can think of that prevents this..

 

[wbrpanther]

No. The object is to play playoffs. Let them play. Who ever wins. I mean if we just select who the best is, then let's eliminate the playoffs and just go back to the bowls. The Steelers won the Super Bowl in 2005 as a Wild Card team. If we were just selecting the "4 best" teams, they wouldn't have been selected.

That’s ridiculous. You get the best team by placing the 4 best teams in your PLAYOFFS. In 2005 the Steelers got in under the established format. Pros are ver different than college.

 

[Pantherguy4]

Can’t disagree with anything you wrote. They keep getting special treatment like they’re the hot girl from high school who shows up at the 20 year class reunion wearing a short skirt but 60 pounds heavier thinking she’s still hot.

With warts on her face with hair growing out of them.

 

[CJsE]

In the last 6 New Years bowls Notre Dame has had a Strength of Schedule of 52nd(2020 in ACC), 20th, 6th, 8th, 25th, and 14th. They lost a total of 7 games during those 6 seasons before their bowl loss and played an average of 3-4 top 25 teams per year.

Say what you will about Notre Dame, but they consistently play one of the hardest schedules in the nation. If they can get through it with 1 loss they should absolutely get consideration.

 

[UptownPrivileges]

TEXAS A&M SHOULD OF BEEN IN ,SHOULD BE 8 TEAM PLAYOFF

 

[TDinTheSnow]

It's absurd.. I just have never understood this...
There are 4 divisions of NCAA football and they have 28 (?) team playoff format in 3 of them...
Those bowl games must have a lot of power and money, because a 28 team playoff field (like they have in every other level of NCAA football) would generate a lot of TV money..
I just can't wrap my brain around why the NCAA has a different format for Division 1 than they have had for decades in all the other divisions.. it make no sense..

 

[USN_Panther]

I think it is time to treat ND like a G5 team. And a playoff system that puts the conference champions in a playoff. If you can't win your conference, you are not the best team in the country.

 

[Burgh15]

It's absurd.. I just have never understood this...
There are 4 divisions of NCAA football and they have 28 (?) team playoff format in 3 of them...
Those bowl games must have a lot of power and money, because a 28 team playoff field (like they have in every other level of NCAA football) would generate a lot of TV money..
I just can't wrap my brain around why the NCAA has a different format for Division 1 than they have had for decades in all the other divisions.. it make no sense..

The bowl games are made for TV for ESPN to fill programming spots. They've successfully destroyed the charm of New Year's Day bowl games and the Fiesta and Orange Bowl presentations today feel like noon kickoff games on ESPN2. I don't care if only 2-3 teams can win it. Do a 16+ team playoff and give players hope that they're playing for something. I'd go a step further and say I wouldn't mind seeing separate playoffs for P5 and G5 teams.

 

[wbrpanther]

TEXAS A&M SHOULD OF BEEN IN ,SHOULD BE 8 TEAM PLAYOFF

Then the bitching will be about the 9th team getting a shot.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Bama would have easily beaten A&M again. 4 teams was more than enough.

 

[TDinTheSnow]

Why doesn't NCAA feel that 4 teams is enough in all others level of NCAA football ?.. 28 teams.. (I think).. all that travel.. all those games.. they can't be making a ton of money playing all those games for the division 3 tournament.. why not just subjectively pick top 4 in every level of NCAA football ?

 

[Pitt79]

THE OBJECT IS TO IDENTIFY THE BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. If the same teams are at the top every year that's not the committee's problem. The best two teams will play for the title. As it is designed. Everybody was weeping and wailing because tOSU got in. I guess the committee was right. As far as opt outs you won't see that again if the pandemic subsides. It was a one off.

My issue with that is, that in real sports, the BEST TEAM is not necessarily the CHAMPION, in ALL THE OTHER SPORTS, in the USA anyways, there is a playoff system, Teams get into a tournament to decide the championship, based on winning some subsection of the overall number of teams, and not by some subjective BS like a committee of optometrists judging who gets in with eye tests, and really the most memorable years that become legendary are when the champion IS NOT the best team, like '85 Nova over Georgetown, or NYG 9-7 over NE 16-0.... THAT'S REAL SPORTS, THAT'S EXCITING! That's what's worth watching, not the same 3-4 teams every single time.

 

[Pitt79]

In the end, none of those teams deserved it. Maybe ND didn’t as well, but somebody had to be the 4th team.

It’s just funny that people think the playoffs should be expanded. It’s a struggle to find 4 teams that belong.

Whoever wins a conference labelled D1 FBS BELONGS, then if they get crushed in a playoff, so be it, ND gets crushed in playoffs EVERY TIME.

 

[Pitt79]

college basketball and college football are not close to being the same.

None of the teams you mentioned belong on the field with Alabama or OSU.

At best the argument is that ND doesn’t either.

Then BREAK IT UP, Have a SUPERLEAGUE, where only the 16-20 teams that the EYE TESTS always select as worthy just play each other, and the other 100 teams who are deemed automatically, every year, to NEVER be worthy to be a different level, with their own playoff.

 

[wbrpanther]

My issue with that is, that in real sports, the BEST TEAM is not necessarily the CHAMPION, in ALL THE OTHER SPORTS, in the USA anyways, there is a playoff system, Teams get into a tournament to decide the championship, based on winning some subsection of the overall number of teams, and not by some subjective BS like a committee of optometrists judging who gets in with eye tests, and really the most memorable years that become legendary are when the champion IS NOT the best team, like '85 Nova over Georgetown, or NYG 9-7 over NE 16-0.... THAT'S REAL SPORTS, THAT'S EXCITING! That's what's worth watching, not the same 3-4 teams every single time.

In the games you mention the best teams were still in it but lost. Maybe the number 3 or 4 team can pull that off in the college playoffs. I actually would like to se them expand to 6 teams, 8 at the very most. but till then it is what it is.

 

[Pitt79]

In the games you mention the best teams were still in it but lost. Maybe the number 3 or 4 team can pull that off in the college playoffs. I actually would like to se them expand to 6 teams, 8 at the very most. but till then it is what it is.

I love when the best teams lose and don't win the title.