UCF fans then and now

[Zeldas Open Roof]

it comes down to not being able to handle the smack talk. it's fun to give it but if you cant take it back at you, well then you shouldn't dish it out. it's really that simple.

Kind of childish to be honest. does it really upset people if strangers on a board who you will never meet dish out "smack talk" about your team? Yes, it's not fun but does it really bother you, if you are an adult? Someone in Orlando or vice versa, in Pittsburgh, posting about your college team on a message board?

Again, if you guys want to go onto other teams boards and throw out some crap, be able to accept it, it's really that simple.

 

[djbpitt]

it comes down to not being able to handle the smack talk. it's fun to give it but if you cant take it back at you, well then you shouldn't dish it out. it's really that simple.

Kind of childish to be honest. does it really upset people if strangers on a board who you will never meet dish out "smack talk" about your team? Yes, it's not fun but does it really bother you, if you are an adult? Someone in Orlando or vice versa, in Pittsburgh, posting about your college team on a message board?

Again, if you guys want to go onto other teams boards and throw out some crap, be able to accept it, it's really that simple.

This. Smack talk is as old as the game itself.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

This. Smack talk is as old as the game itself.

of course it is and its silly fun. but sadly, some people cant take it. our team is good, yours stinks. when we win, it's because we are better, when we lose, we blew it and should have won.

Your fans are classless, our's are not. this is what every fan base says every week. if pitt wins a game, go to the other team's boards and i guarantee there will be a thread or two about how pitt fans were classless. When Pitt loses, every Monday i read a thread about how the opposing team's fans were classless. This is how it works.

If we lose, it's because our team blew it and we SHOULD have won. I guarantee if i go to UCF's boards, they are talking about how they blew it and how they should have won.

These are all undeniable certainties.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

If you go onto another team's message board, you'll get what you dish out. Deal with it. I actually find it childish to even post on another team's message board. I used to do it on the wvu board when we were rivals, and it was never productive. I refuse to do it any longer. It's not worth my time.

 

[djbpitt]

of course it is and its silly fun. but sadly, some people cant take it. our team is good, yours stinks. when we win, it's because we are better, when we lose, we blew it and should have won.

Your fans are classless, our's are not. this is what every fan base says every week. if pitt wins a game, go to the other team's boards and i guarantee there will be a thread or two about how pitt fans were classless. When Pitt loses, every Monday i read a thread about how the opposing team's fans were classless. This is how it works.

If we lose, it's because our team blew it and we SHOULD have won. I guarantee if i go to UCF's boards, they are talking about how they blew it and how they should have won.

These are all undeniable certainties.

I've been to multiple hundreds of Pitt games over the years. In my experience, our classless fans are few and far between. (I hate to admit this but decades of ups and down have sapped some of the fervor that sometimes leads to classless behavior.) And, in my experience, the relatively small band of Pitt fans are people who really WANT to be there and are knowledgeable about the game and their team.

Over the years, the boorish fans I have encountered are predominately the bandwagoneers, the hangers-on, the front-runners, the fair weather fans, the non-alumni and the casual fan. Due to many years of ups and downs, we don't have many of those types. That's why I doubt we have many classless fans in our tribe.

 

[Gvilleknight]

Here was a post from after the game last night, thought it was pretty funny

Look, we all have smack talkers in our midst. But, in my opinion, Pitt wanted it more. It wasn't UCF 's day, Pitt defended its home turf, and won the day. For what it's worth, I'd like to see the Panthers win out this season, and I think Pitt really found its identity and confidence again. Too bad there's not another match-up with PSU at Heinz. I think you'd take them down.

Maybe someday we'll also be members in the ACC, but we didn't help our cause Saturday.

 

[HailToPitt725]

Look, we all have smack talkers in our midst. But, in my opinion, Pitt wanted it more. It wasn't UCF 's day, Pitt defended its home turf, and won the day. For what it's worth, I'd like to see the Panthers win out this season, and I think Pitt really found its identity and confidence again. Too bad there's not another match-up with PSU at Heinz. I think you'd take them down.

Maybe someday we'll also be members in the ACC, but we didn't help our cause Saturday.

I know that one poster doesn’t represent you all; I still enjoy many of you, including Honors. Just gave me a chuckle was all.

Also, I wish you all the same. I think you’re also right in the fact that there was a certain level of motivation brewing for Pitt after last year’s game. You guys will be just fine. UCF certainly has a lot going for it right now.

 

[Gvilleknight]

I know that one poster doesn’t represent you all; I still enjoy many of you, including Honors. Just gave me a chuckle was all.

Also, I wish you all the same. I think you’re also right in the fact that there was a certain level of motivation brewing for Pitt after last year’s game. You guys will be just fine. UCF certainly has a lot going for it right now.

 

[Gvilleknight]

That aura of invincibility is shaken, and that reflection in the cracked mirror reveals some flaws.

I'd read critical comments of Narduzzi and staff coaching by Pitt fans after the PSU game, but they outcoached our guys at every turn! Quickly picked-up on our foolishly stubborn decision to pound the rock up the gut every other play! For crying in the mud, you do that with a bruising fullback, but not the small speed merchant tailbacks we use!. And the one running back we have who fits the role of the physical bruiser was never used!

Narduzzi had the team motivated and determined on Saturday. If they play that way in subsequent weeks, it will be a successful season.

 

[persp]

If you go onto another team's message board, you'll get what you dish out. Deal with it. I actually find it childish to even post on another team's message board. I used to do it on the wvu board when we were rivals, and it was never productive. I refuse to do it any longer. It's not worth my time.

I was over there before the game and many were quite cordial in their reception of me. There were twice as many acting like douche but you have to know it is coming. Many willingly ate crow to me after the game too. It helped that the game played how I predicted it nearly perfectly, but they were still respectful in their nom nom nom and I returned their respect.

I would rather take crap from the other fanbase that my own, and considering I got nearly the same treatment from this board as I did them, its a lot more fun to not have your opponents on the same sideline. So, I like to go over to theirs.

Some reason I seek out the other team's bar at bowl games. Its just fun to discuss football and talk some smack with the opposing team.

 

[revampedpanthers]

UCF fans seem to forget they have more losing seasons than winning ones since becoming D-1/FBS. Also 2 WINLESS seasons - one very recently. Just be happy for your very recent success - it may not last forever.

Rutgers fans also thought they were destined to be a long-time power about 15 years ago after 4-5 years of success and now they are the laughing stock of all college football.

I will say their arrogance as a fanbase is pretty amazing considering where they have come from and what they have accomplished. Yes they have had some very good teams the last few years but it's not like they have had a decade of success they are as arrogant as psu fans but at least psu has been mostly good for 40 years. I would say that the ru fans is a pretty good comparison a few good years and now they are a cfb power.

 

[revampedpanthers]

Dont be a child.
If 2 missed field goals are equal to what I mentioned above then you already got your mind made up and theres nothing further to discuss.

Either way I wasn't talking to you, please don't enter my conversation just to let me know you don't want to converse

But here is the problem with your thinking. The main reason you were down 21-0 is your ol was getting its ass handed to them. That didnt stop,it continued which is why you continued to fail on 4th and short. Pitt could just as easily say that a TO and shitty call left you back in it our team relaxed then turned it back on and won. That game could be played 10 more times and it's going to end every time with your fr qb on his back for half the plays because your team couldn't block. Pitt dominated the trenches all game long and that's not a fluke very hard for a team to win a game when they get beat up at the LOS on both sides of the ball.

 

[revampedpanthers]

Look, we all have smack talkers in our midst. But, in my opinion, Pitt wanted it more. It wasn't UCF 's day, Pitt defended its home turf, and won the day. For what it's worth, I'd like to see the Panthers win out this season, and I think Pitt really found its identity and confidence again. Too bad there's not another match-up with PSU at Heinz. I think you'd take them down.

Maybe someday we'll also be members in the ACC, but we didn't help our cause Saturday.

You didnt hurt your cause either because it's not really about what happens on the field as much as other things. Unfortunately for ucf fans you will never get into the acc unless there are defections. That's because Miami and fl st wont want it and ucf wont bring in enough money to pay for itself. Ucf is worth a lot more to the b12 than the acc.i do think there is a chance ucf gets into the b12 but its likely going to require some things happening that ucf has no control over

 

[gbgpanther]

You didnt hurt your cause either because it's not really about what happens on the field as much as other things. Unfortunately for ucf fans you will never get into the acc unless there are defections. That's because Miami and fl st wont want it and ucf wont bring in enough money to pay for itself. Ucf is worth a lot more to the b12 than the acc.i do think there is a chance ucf gets into the b12 but its likely going to require some things happening that ucf has no control over

Academics will not permit it

 

[CaptainMurphy]

I only ever went over to talk cordial smack before WVU and PSU games. WVU fans were generally brutal but took as well as they received. The other sensitive cowards from the east went with the immediate ban hammer. I have no problem with any kind of trash talk provided those who deal it come back to eat crow afterwards.

 

[Gvilleknight]

Academics will not permit it

I don't get it.

ACCEPTANCE RATES 2019
Louisville 73%
Virginia Tech 65%
NC State 51%
Pitt 59%
Clemson 47%
Syracuse 50%
UCF 43%
Incoming Freshmen GPA 3.81

Duke/Wake Forest/ Boston College? You've got us there!

 

[DiehardPanther]

I don't get it.

ACCEPTANCE RATES 2019
Louisville 73%
Virginia Tech 65%
NC State 51%
Pitt 59%
Clemson 47%
Syracuse 50%
UCF 43%
Incoming Freshmen GPA 3.81

Crazy Paco is going to overwhelm you with some academic facts. Strap on your seat belt son. It’s coming.

 

[djbpitt]

I don't get it.

ACCEPTANCE RATES 2019
Louisville 73%
Virginia Tech 65%
NC State 51%
Pitt 59%
Clemson 47%
Syracuse 50%
UCF 43%
Incoming Freshmen GPA 3.81

Duke/Wake Forest/ Boston College? You've got us there!

Have you seen the latest respective U.S. News & World Report rankings, UCF man? Spoiler: It's a bigger and more important win for us than Saturday.

 

[djbpitt]

Crazy Paco is going to overwhelm you with some academic facts. Strap on your seat belt son. It’s coming.

***grabs popcorn, waits*** This is going to be good. Bring it, Crazy Paco.

 

[pittdan77]

Maybe someday we'll also be members in the ACC, but we didn't help our cause Saturday.

LOL. You can't help yourself.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Have you seen the latest respective U.S. News & World Report rankings, UCF man? Spoiler: It's a bigger and more important win for us than Saturday.

um, no one cares. but enjoy your popcorn..

 

[Pitt79]

UCF fans on Friday: "We should be ranked higher! We're already being shut out of the playoff! We're scoring 60! We're better than a lot of P5 teams!"

UCF fans on Saturday night: "But we have a young QB. And a young offensive line. And Pitt got lucky. And Heupel handed the game away. And we beat you last year."

And the real topper: "You only beat a G5 team anyway."

SMH.

They where correct before the game happened, they didn't walk the walk, if they had come in and beaten Pitt like maybe 45-14 or something, like most of the country expected them to, that would still be an argument.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

I don't get it.

ACCEPTANCE RATES 2019
Louisville 73%
Virginia Tech 65%
NC State 51%
Pitt 59%
Clemson 47%
Syracuse 50%
UCF 43%
Incoming Freshmen GPA 3.81

Duke/Wake Forest/ Boston College? You've got us there!

A more relevant comparison would be the quality of student who actually gets accepted. We all know why you didn't go there.

 

[HailToPitt725]

I don't get it.

ACCEPTANCE RATES 2019
Louisville 73%
Virginia Tech 65%
NC State 51%
Pitt 59%
Clemson 47%
Syracuse 50%
UCF 43%
Incoming Freshmen GPA 3.81

Duke/Wake Forest/ Boston College? You've got us there!

Crazy Paco is going to overwhelm you with some academic facts. Strap on your seat belt son. It’s coming.

Paging @CrazyPaco

 

[CrazyPaco]

Paging @CrazyPaco

LOL... ok....I'll add.

Admission acceptance rates have been dropped from many ranking methodologies for a reason. They're entirely meaningless out of context of the recruitment pool and easily gamed.

All the Florida schools are benefiting from booming demographics and Florida Prepaid. UCF has done very well to improve itself. But US News, where UCF and USF and other Florida schools have improved their rankings dramatically over the past decade, is only one pop culture view and only of the undergrad component of any university. It is more a marketing tool than anything, although not an unimportant one. UCF has further to go in other aspects in which academia actually benchmarks themselves. Not to take anything away from UCF, but USF is quite a bit ahead of UCF in that regard. UCF has a good trajectory in many areas, and it is doing well to build its brand regionally as an undergrad option for Floridians. It's just going to take time and money and hiring and retaining top faculty to build those reputations. That won't be achieved just through sheer size and undergrad admissions numbers. It gets tougher and tougher the further up you get. No one is thinking of UCF for a top school in Florida just yet.

None of that matters for conference realignment though. See Louisville.

 

[Pitt79]

Why does the "quality of the student" even matter? It's pretty common that the sports scholarship "students" would not have been accepted if they weren't star athletes, many are poor students, taking spots better students should of gotten, and they are a small % of the entire student body, it's practically hypocritical to care about academics and then accept some of these football and basketball players they end up accepting, because they can run fast or catch a ball.

 

[Gvilleknight]

LOL... ok....I'll add.

Admission acceptance rates have been dropped from many ranking methodologies for a reason. They're entirely meaningless out of context of the recruitment pool and easily gamed.

All the Florida schools are benefiting from booming demographics and Florida Prepaid. UCF has done very well to improve itself. But US News, where UCF and USF and other Florida schools have improved their rankings dramatically over the past decade, is only one pop culture view and only of the undergrad component of any university. It is more a marketing tool than anything, although not an unimportant one. UCF has further to go in other aspects in which academia actually benchmarks themselves. Not to take anything away from UCF, but USF is quite a bit ahead of UCF in that regard. UCF has a good trajectory in many areas, and it is doing well to build its brand regionally as an undergrad option for Floridians. It's just going to take time and money and hiring and retaining top faculty to build those reputations. That won't be achieved just through sheer size and undergrad admissions numbers. It gets tougher and tougher the further up you get. No one is thinking of UCF for a top school in Florida just yet.

None of that matters for conference realignment though. See Louisville.

Thoughtful, insightful reply. I respect that.
It's the disparaging remarks of others, that imply a campus of knuckle-dragging dim bulbs, preventing acceptance into the ACC that is disrespectful. But kind of humorous, too! A prime minister, astronauts, NASA directors, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, directors of U.S. Government offices, a dean of Columbia University Graduate School of Business, all exceeded their limited expectations, Thank God!

 

[HailToPitt725]

Thoughtful, insightful reply. Multi-faceted.

Since we’re talking about academics, my cousin was looking at UCF because we enrolled at Pitt and he said you have an excellent engineering program.

 

[Gvilleknight]

Since we’re talking about academics, my cousin was looking at UCF because we enrolled at Pitt and he said you have an excellent engineering program.

He is right, but as I have no engineering acumen, I cannot discuss further.
Actually, UCF began as Florida Technological University, with a particular emphasis on engineering, due to the burgeoning space program back in the 60s. Later, the university's name was changed to reflect the more comprehensive direction of the school, and a medical school was added (2006). Still, it was founded in the second half of the 20th century, and lacks the patina, ivy walls, Old Main and bell towers of the nation's older institutions.

But to your point, your cousin will get a solid education there. And thanks for the acknowledgment. The College of Engineering is located adjacent to the College of Advanced Sandbox Studies. lol!

 

[PittPat3]

He is right, but as I have no engineering acumen, I cannot discuss further.
Actually, UCF began as Florida Technological University, with a particular emphasis on engineering, due to the burgeoning space program back in the 60s. Later, the university's name was changed to reflect the more comprehensive direction of the school, and a medical school was added (2006). Still, it was founded in the second half of the 20th century, and lacks the patina, ivy walls, Old Main and bell towers of the nation's older institutions.

But to your point, your cousin will get a solid education there. And thanks for the acknowledgment. The College of Engineering is located adjacent to the College of Advanced Sandbox Studies. lol!

Good stuff. I dunno. I understand the thinking, but "Florida Tech" has a certain ring to it, imho.

 

[djbpitt]

Thoughtful, insightful reply. I respect that.
It's the disparaging remarks of others, that imply a campus of knuckle-dragging dim bulbs, preventing acceptance into the ACC that is disrespectful. But kind of humorous, too! A prime minister, astronauts, NASA directors, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, directors of U.S. Government offices, a dean of Columbia University Graduate School of Business, all exceeded their limited expectations, Thank God!

It's been a long time since I took statistics but two things come to mind: The sample size of overachievers you cite is exceedingly small. And with 66,000 undergraduates, I'm not sure if they can all be above average -- especially in a state where the the flagship university has very high standards and 52,000 students of its own. That said, Florida is a highly populated state so it could be plausible. So I might be wrong on the latter issue.