UCLA wanted Jamie Dixon not Cronin!
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That's right. I remember it was Jamie's buyout at TCU that was the deal breaker.
I had to google it to refresh my memory of the details. His buyout was $8 million and UCLA wasn't willing to go that high. After Jamie, I think they tried Rick Barnes.
Cronin and UCLA deserve all the hype he and his program are getting right now, but what would the vibe be right now had they lost that OT game to Michigan State, or if Bama had hit their free-throws? Fair or not, it's a tourney sport.
And what would the hype be about Gonzaga if Juzang had made a 6 foot pull up at the end of regulation, or had been fouled, instead of getting called for a charge? Or if Suggs’ buzzer beater had missed? Or if the ball had bounced a different way once or twice in any close game in the tournament?
You can’t play the what if game in sports. You just can’t-every team has a bundle of potential game/season changing “what ifs” every season. All that matters is whether you win or lose. It’s a zero sum equation.
I sincerely think UCLA could be cutting down the nets this year if they had hired Dixon.
... In the NIT, that is.
... In the NIT, that is.
Yeah, Cincy is a mess currently as they’re trying to fire Brannen for cause. That’s going to be a tough rebuild initially, but that wouldn’t be a bad landing spot for Archie Miller to get back on track.
I was shocked UCLA wanted Jamie. I mean I think Jamie is an above average coach but I thought UCLA should have shot WAY higher than a guy who spent most of the last decade on the bubble. Cronin was clearly the better choice. Surprised he was their backup option.
And Pitt could have had Cronin. What a travesty.
And Pitt could have had Cronin. What a travesty.
If Pitt had Cronin we would be in much better shape. Not even a doubt.
You arent exactly going out on a limb there.
He was desperate to get out of Cincinnati and Pitt didn't even pick up the phone.
How's this, after watching Capel's 3 years here at Pitt I think every name mentioned to come here would have the program in better shape at this point than Jeff Capel. Including Mark Schmidt.
Well, yea, I mean just about anyone could have at least replicated Capel's 15-39 ACC record including Stallings who would have won some games in Year 3 with Carr, Stewart, JWF, Luther, and Golden
Of course. But Few has job security. He has a machine in Spokane & can keep knocking on the door.
Cronin really needed the tourney run. His results have okay, but less than spectacular after two years. This run will be forgotten quickly if they don't step it up.
Weird thread.
Howland and Cronin got to final fours with UCLA, maybe Dixon could too. There is a lot of talent you can still recruit to that school. Are people arguing that Howland and Cronin are just vastly superior coaches to Dixon? I put all three in the same general bucket.
Howland and Cronin got to final fours with UCLA, maybe Dixon could too. There is a lot of talent you can still recruit to that school. Are people arguing that Howland and Cronin are just vastly superior coaches to Dixon? I put all three in the same general bucket.
Howland and Cronin are better than Dixon. But they all are much better than Capel.
In hindsight, other coaching candidates may have done better here. At the same time, I think our program is in a better position now than where it was after the 0-18 season. Perhaps if Capel isn’t the answer, the “names being mentioned” will be better in the next go-around? The job will likely be a lighter undertaking by then.
You know though maybe I am being too optimistic about BK but I think he can bring this program back to the Big East era to a large degree. Right now I don't think Capel even knows what kind of players he wants or what the identity is. BK would bring in I believe hard tough nose kids like we used to have that can play defense. That would be a big start.
I think we need a homerun hire , I think throwing shit off a wall and hoping isn't working. I do not think BK can recruit the ACC player , at this time. Maybe one day but not anytime soon. Just my opinion
Now I am not sure Pitt is capable of a homerun hire , so BK is definitely a safe hire , wouldn't hate it, just think we need one of these Beard type hires, hell we just wasted 25 million like you said , why not spend 25 on one guy for 5 years and get something for it!
But who would that be that’s realistic? I know SMF has his theory that if you throw enough money at someone they’ll take it but even that probably has its limits. And it’s not like Pitt has millions to just throw around.
However long ago people were tossing around names like Brad Stevens, Shaka Smart and Greg Marshall. Which was complete lunacy. Guys like that were never gonna take the job.
I know you rode hard for Enfield and legend has it we could have had him but came up short with $$$. Not sure if that’s true or if he’d have been a “home run”. But likely better than what we have.
Enfield would have been a slower rebuild than imo let's say a Musselman but we'd definitely be better off. Much better off.
Not all Bruin fans wanted Dixon. His failure to advance beyond the Elite Eight was troubling. After all, UCLA is always looking to rekindle their championship run under Wooden. Cronin is doing a better job than Jamie would do. Just look at the TCU program. Just like he did at Pitt, he peaked and is now down-sliding. The Dixon Big East magic is so difficult to reinvent for the Big 12. Clearly Capel is inexperienced AD Lyke worst mistake. I give Jamie much credit for even when his teams were not at the level of his first decade run, he was one thousand times better than the chaotic mess Capel has brought to the program. Next season will be brutal for both Capel, his extended family of coaches, and Lyke.
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If we hire a second assistant with no head coaching experience people will be understandably concerned
Everyone has a price. Pay Brad Stevens $10 million/year and he'd take it. Obviously Pitt isnt going to do that but any team can get any coach if they pay enough.
If we hire a 30 year old with limited experience who was a waiter at Applebee’s when he starters here 5 years ago people will be understandably concerned - Butler’s fan base in 2007
“If we hire a guy with 2 years of assistant coaching experience who was a science teacher but only got his job because he sent top 100 EC Matthews to Rhode Island people will be understandably concerned.” - Buffalo’s fan base in 2015
So many poor coaching decisions have been made based on a team having a tourney run. We don't have to look far, I mean this parish itself hired Paul Evans after a David Robinson led Navy run to the Elite 8. Evans, with all that talent couldn't even get to the Sweet 16 here.
Steven’s was on the Butler staff the 6 years prior to getting the gig .
He is more analogous to Jamie Dixon than Brandin knight
If Brandin goes and head coaches hs for awhile /
He’ll be a more attractive candidate than presently
So if Brandin goes and coaches East Orange HS he will be more attractive to you than as a HM assistant. What an odd hill to die on. Oats was a D3 assistant before he was a hs head coach
Yep and spent the previous 8 years on the unc staff
And most here think it’s a bad hire .
