UVA / Pitt.....Some Very Revealing Statistics

[Chescat]

Some stats that reveal a lot about the game, and more about us:
- Rebounding UVA 33 Pitt 32. Off. boards UVA 5, Pitt 10
- Turnovers UVA 16 Pitt 10
- Steals UVA 2 Pitt 8
- Assists UVA 11 Pitt 14
- Blocks UVA 6 Pitt 5
- Fouls UVA 14 Pitt 13
OK, so far it looks pretty even right? Now,Take a look at the all
important shooting.

- Free throws UVA 11/13 = 84% Pitt 9/14 = 64%
- Field Goals UVA 21/48 = 43% Pitt 22/57 = 38%
- 3 pointers UVA 6/18 = 33% Pitt 3/15 = 20%

Some obvious conclusions. This game shows how poorly we
shoot, especially threes. Hell, we hit one more three, and one
more fg, or ft, we win. Those still would have been lousy %'s,
but enough to win. And yes, UVA's D affected our shooting.
Bottom line to me.....We played a more talented team pretty
even in all aspects of the game except for shooting. We
doubled them up on the offensive boards. We took more shots,
and we hustled our asses off. You can bet Capel is going over
these stats and showing his players how close we are. It ain't
gonna happen this year, but as the talent gets better, so will
these stats improve, and so will the wins increase.

Just my take on yesterday's game.

 

[GT74]

Some stats that reveal a lot about the game, and more about us:
- Rebounding UVA 33 Pitt 32. Off. boards UVA 5, Pitt 10
- Turnovers UVA 16 Pitt 10
- Steals UVA 2 Pitt 8
- Assists UVA 11 Pitt 14
- Blocks UVA 6 Pitt 5
- Fouls UVA 14 Pitt 13
OK, so far it looks pretty even right? Now,Take a look at the all
important shooting.

- Free throws UVA 11/13 = 84% Pitt 9/14 = 64%
- Field Goals UVA 21/48 = 43% Pitt 22/57 = 38%
- 3 pointers UVA 6/18 = 33% Pitt 3/15 = 20%

Some obvious conclusions. This game shows how poorly we
shoot, especially threes. Hell, we hit one more three, and one
more fg, or ft, we win. Those still would have been lousy %'s,
but enough to win. And yes, UVA's D affected our shooting.
Bottom line to me.....We played a more talented team pretty
even in all aspects of the game except for shooting. We
doubled them up on the offensive boards. We took more shots,
and we hustled our asses off. You can bet Capel is going over
these stats and showing his players how close we are. It ain't
gonna happen this year, but as the talent gets better, so will
these stats improve, and so will the wins increase.

Just my take on yesterday's game.

I said it in response to a previous game, ‘shoot good, look good’ is a cliche in basketball. Sometimes doesn’t matter what the other stats are, shooting determines the outcome.

 

[KennyTheKangaroo]

Pitt outrebounded uva in the first half

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Well, actually UVa doesn't have any talent. They are just well coached. I wanted to fall out of my chair when Huckaby was saying Clark was one of the best PG's in the country. Uhhh.....no. He's pedestrian. He had a nice 1st Half when Johnson wasnt playing any defense.

 

[73CAV]

Some stats that reveal a lot about the game, and more about us:
- Rebounding UVA 33 Pitt 32. Off. boards UVA 5, Pitt 10
- Turnovers UVA 16 Pitt 10
- Steals UVA 2 Pitt 8
- Assists UVA 11 Pitt 14
- Blocks UVA 6 Pitt 5
- Fouls UVA 14 Pitt 13
OK, so far it looks pretty even right? Now,Take a look at the all
important shooting.

- Free throws UVA 11/13 = 84% Pitt 9/14 = 64%
- Field Goals UVA 21/48 = 43% Pitt 22/57 = 38%
- 3 pointers UVA 6/18 = 33% Pitt 3/15 = 20%

Some obvious conclusions. This game shows how poorly we
shoot, especially threes. Hell, we hit one more three, and one
more fg, or ft, we win. Those still would have been lousy %'s,
but enough to win. And yes, UVA's D affected our shooting.
Bottom line to me.....We played a more taIlented team pretty
even in all aspects of the game except for shooting. We
doubled them up on the offensive boards. We took more shots,
and we hustled our asses off. You can bet Capel is going over
these stats and showing his players how close we are. It ain't
gonna happen this year, but as the talent gets better, so will
these stats improve, and so will the wins increase.

Just my take on yesterday's game.

I couldn't find them anywhere, but what might be more instructive as far as yesterday's game is concerned would be the stats for the first half, the first 15 minutes of the second half, and the last five minutes of the second half. That might tell an interesting story.

 

[Chescat]

I couldn't find them anywhere, but what might be more instructive as far as yesterday's game is concerned would be the stats for the first half, the first 15 minutes of the second half, and the last five minutes of the second half. That might tell an interesting story.

Good point! However we don't need the stats to know that in the first
half we were able to get into the lane for some dump offs, and very
good inside shots. The first 15 minutes of the second half we couldn't
do anything against their D. Gotta give UVA credit, they shut us down,
it wasn't just our going cold. The last five minutes we upped the
intensity and they most likely took their foot off the gas a little and
we scored, got them back on their heels, and closed the gap.

For those that questioned why we couldn't do those last five minutes
all game.....it just doesn't happen. That kind of intensity for 40
minutes is unrealistic.
By the same token, you can bet that UVA is asking, why couldn't
they play the whole game the way they played the first 15 mintes
of the second half. Bottom line....it works both ways.

 

[Chescat]

Well, actually UVa doesn't have any talent. They are just well coached. I wanted to fall out of my chair when Huckaby was saying Clark was one of the best PG's in the country. Uhhh.....no. He's pedestrian. He had a nice 1st Half when Johnson wasnt playing any defense.

That's your opinion, it's not a fact. They're not the talented team of the
last few years, but IMO they're definitely more talented than we are.
Like you said, the announcer was commenting on what a very good PG
Clark is. I for one, totally agree with the announcer. We did turn him
over at the end when we made our run, but I think he's damn good.
IMO he gave us fits for most of the game.

Oh, but wait, I almost forgot.........SMF knows basketball.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Old timers know these kind of limited Pitt teams. Basically have to shoot lights out or hope opponent can't hit side of barn.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Well, actually UVa doesn't have any talent. They are just well coached. I wanted to fall out of my chair when Huckaby was saying Clark was one of the best PG's in the country. Uhhh.....no. He's pedestrian. He had a nice 1st Half when Johnson wasnt playing any defense.

You should talk less

 

[73CAV]

Well, actually UVa doesn't have any talent. They are just well coached. I wanted to fall out of my chair when Huckaby was saying Clark was one of the best PG's in the country. Uhhh.....no. He's pedestrian. He had a nice 1st Half when Johnson wasnt playing any defense.

Well, on paper, Virginia does have some nice talent. The current roster has seven players who were ranked in the Top 100 coming out of high school, and that doesn't include Caffaro (who, if he played prep ball in the US, would likely be ranked around 100) or Woldetensae, also a foreigner, who was a Junior College All American. Most of them were ranked in the Top 75, but two of those seven are redshirting. Now, if you put little or no stock in recruiting rankings, you're probably justified, but still... What Virginia is lacking this season is experience and depth in the back court. Clark and Stattmann are the only scholarship guards who have played a minute for Virginia prior to this season. Given Coach Bennett's schemes, experience is paramount. And, while I wouldn't characterize Clark as one of the top PGs in the country (he does have situational limitations), he is doing a pretty nice job this year. He does not lack talent. It would be nice if there was a backup on the bench for him, but it is what it is.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Now, if you put little or no stock in recruiting rankings, you're probably justified, but still

Actually, SMF puts a huge amount of stock in recruiting rankings.

Unless they don't help with the point he's trying to make.

 

[Fredact]

I couldn't find them anywhere, but what might be more instructive as far as yesterday's game is concerned would be the stats for the first half, the first 15 minutes of the second half, and the last five minutes of the second half. That might tell an interesting story.

This site has everything you need: https://pittsburghpanthers.com/sidearmstats/mbball/summary

 

[Jeffburgh]

Well, on paper, Virginia does have some nice talent. The current roster has seven players who were ranked in the Top 100 coming out of high school, and that doesn't include Caffaro (who, if he played prep ball in the US, would likely be ranked around 100) or Woldetensae, also a foreigner, who was a Junior College All American. Most of them were ranked in the Top 75, but two of those seven are redshirting. Now, if you put little or no stock in recruiting rankings, you're probably justified, but still... What Virginia is lacking this season is experience and depth in the back court. Clark and Stattmann are the only scholarship guards who have played a minute for Virginia prior to this season. Given Coach Bennett's schemes, experience is paramount. And, while I wouldn't characterize Clark as one of the top PGs in the country (he does have situational limitations), he is doing a pretty nice job this year. He does not lack talent. It would be nice if there was a backup on the bench for him, but it is what it is.

Yeah, Diakite was 32cd, Huff, 57, Marshall 56th (JUCO) Hauser 83rd. Clark was only 397th, but is a darn fine college pg.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

That's your opinion, it's not a fact. They're not the talented team of the
last few years, but IMO they're definitely more talented than we are.
Like you said, the announcer was commenting on what a very good PG
Clark is. I for one, totally agree with the announcer. We did turn him
over at the end when we made our run, but I think he's damn good.
IMO he gave us fits for most of the game.

Oh, but wait, I almost forgot.........SMF knows basketball.

Diakite is a good player. Clark is an above average PG. That's it. If anyone else is coaching that team, they go 5-15.

 

[Atch]

Some stats that reveal a lot about the game, and more about us:
- Rebounding UVA 33 Pitt 32. Off. boards UVA 5, Pitt 10
- Turnovers UVA 16 Pitt 10
- Steals UVA 2 Pitt 8
- Assists UVA 11 Pitt 14
- Blocks UVA 6 Pitt 5
- Fouls UVA 14 Pitt 13
OK, so far it looks pretty even right? Now,Take a look at the all
important shooting.

- Free throws UVA 11/13 = 84% Pitt 9/14 = 64%
- Field Goals UVA 21/48 = 43% Pitt 22/57 = 38%
- 3 pointers UVA 6/18 = 33% Pitt 3/15 = 20%

Some obvious conclusions. This game shows how poorly we
shoot, especially threes. Hell, we hit one more three, and one
more fg, or ft, we win. Those still would have been lousy %'s,
but enough to win. And yes, UVA's D affected our shooting.
Bottom line to me.....We played a more talented team pretty
even in all aspects of the game except for shooting. We
doubled them up on the offensive boards. We took more shots,
and we hustled our asses off. You can bet Capel is going over
these stats and showing his players how close we are. It ain't
gonna happen this year, but as the talent gets better, so will
these stats improve, and so will the wins increase.

Just my take on yesterday's game.

Good take.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

One thing I noticed, Pitt has played well against UVa, Duke, the 2nd Louisville game. What is common here? Man to man. We can function, get decent shots (we can't knock them down) and play good teams fairly close when they don't run zone against us. Run a 2-3 zone against Pitt, and I think Deer Lakes has a chance.

 

[Chescat]

Yeah, Diakite was 32cd, Huff, 57, Marshall 56th (JUCO) Hauser 83rd. Clark was only 397th, but is a darn fine college pg.

This can't possibly be true, SMF says otherwise. In fact he claims......well
actually UVS doesn't have any talent. He also claims that Clark is merely
pedestrian. After getting corected in this thread, he backs off and states
that the pedestrian Clark is an above average pg, and that Diakite is a
good player.

But a reninder, so we don't forget his immortal words....SMF knows basketball.

 

[TD_6082]

I think UVA's recent history has a lot to do with the way their team is perceived. They really aren't very good. In a normal year in the ACC, I think they would win about a third of their games.

In some OOC games, they were beaten soundly by South Carolina at home, struggled to beat Navy, and Purdue beat the hell out of them. They still have 2 probable losses coming up in Duke & Louisville. They still aren't a lock for the tourney, imo.

If they get in, they are probably looking at a 10 seed or higher. There isn't much to like on their resume .

 

[Protes]

Some stats that reveal a lot about the game, and more about us:
- Rebounding UVA 33 Pitt 32. Off. boards UVA 5, Pitt 10
- Turnovers UVA 16 Pitt 10
- Steals UVA 2 Pitt 8
- Assists UVA 11 Pitt 14
- Blocks UVA 6 Pitt 5
- Fouls UVA 14 Pitt 13
OK, so far it looks pretty even right? Now,Take a look at the all
important shooting.

- Free throws UVA 11/13 = 84% Pitt 9/14 = 64%
- Field Goals UVA 21/48 = 43% Pitt 22/57 = 38%
- 3 pointers UVA 6/18 = 33% Pitt 3/15 = 20%

Some obvious conclusions. This game shows how poorly we
shoot, especially threes. Hell, we hit one more three, and one
more fg, or ft, we win. Those still would have been lousy %'s,
but enough to win. And yes, UVA's D affected our shooting.
Bottom line to me.....We played a more talented team pretty
even in all aspects of the game except for shooting. We
doubled them up on the offensive boards. We took more shots,
and we hustled our asses off. You can bet Capel is going over
these stats and showing his players how close we are. It ain't
gonna happen this year, but as the talent gets better, so will
these stats improve, and so will the wins increase.

Just my take on yesterday's game.

Well, we pretty much have nowhere to go but up when it comes to our shooting.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

This can't possibly be true, SMF says otherwise. In fact he claims......well
actually UVS doesn't have any talent. He also claims that Clark is merely
pedestrian. After getting corected in this thread, he backs off and states
that the pedestrian Clark is an above average pg, and that Diakite is a
good player.

But a reninder, so we don't forget his immortal words....SMF knows basketball.

On a scale of 1 to 10. I give Clark a 6. That's pedestrian to me. AND above average. Diakite is probably a 7. No one else on their team is above a 5. They might have the worst talent in the ACC. If not the worst, one of the bottom few. Bennett is a magician. Maybe the GOAT