VERY much under the New Stadium radar

[ZetaZetaBeta]

Pitt owns the Mosque and The Holiday Inn. And while the plans are for new academic buildings, plans can change. The OC LOT is the best place for a New Stadium in my opinion

www.newpittstadium.com

10,000 PARKING SPOTS WITHIN 2 BLOCKS OF THE OC LOT.

Some years ago, The University of Pittsburgh created an architectural rendering of The New Pitt Stadium. The GSPIA School created a feasibility plan using this rendering to prove convincingly that a stadium will thrive on this very site. Unfortunately, under the leadership at the time, priorities were placed elsewhere. The drawing above is smaller than this current plan proposes, however new architectural drawings are being made to accommodate the 21st Century needs for Pitt’s Athletic Facilities Footprint.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Sorry, academics is the priority. Where does this nonsense keep coming from????? It's not happening!!!! It would be funny if it weren't so sad that it keeps resurfacing with nothing to support it.

 

[upitt33]

Where does 50k people park? Where are the premium club seating going to be? There is a lot of donation money for club seats.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Pitt recently bought (or is in the process of buying) that parking space and is likely going to use it for academic space.

What is really funny, is if Pitt hypothetically decided to build a stadium using, in part, this space. It would be absolutely hilarious how the City and citizens would come out against it, but were relatively quiet when the Syria Mosque was razed and a parking lot put in it's place.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

There are 50,000 questions to be answered and no answers from those who support a new stadium.

I could see Pitt building a new stadium at some point in the future. But it won't be in Oakland, it won't be on-campus, and it would be at another remote location outside of Oakland for all of the obvious reasons. And it would be after Heinz Field either falls down or our lease runs out or is not renewed.

 

[JoseLind13]

Z2 has a new username? Every time this link is spammed on this board, I will remind the fans of my superior design: Chico Lind's Pitt Stadium 2.0.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Where does 50k people park? Where are the premium club seating going to be? There is a lot of donation money for club seats.

Oakland businesses and parking were maxed out for a Duke bb game. And I'd suspect the city would fight Pitt every step of the way. I favor focusing on better linking Oakland and town instead.

 

[crharris8892]

Partner with CMU to make a radical new design coupled with innovative propulsion technology and you got yourself a floating football stadium that can move anywhere. Club seats can be added or removed like Lego blocks, make them modular. Auto-tarping of upper bowls are automated like drop down Venetian blinds. Park it next to the Point fountain, and have it float to Oakland by magnets on game days. No excuse for the students either, because an escalator system can can extend out to each dorm high-rise. No new buildings or raze old ones, and will satisfy the NIMBY people.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Z2 has a new username? Every time this link is spammed on this board, I will remind the fans of my superior design: Chico Lind's Pitt Stadium 2.0.

Yeah I think so.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Where does 50k people park? Where are the premium club seating going to be? There is a lot of donation money for club seats.

The same places Pitt commuters, professors, staff, and UPMC employees park Monday through Friday. More than 50K descend upon Oakland every weekday and incredibally they all find parking and they all make it home. Nobody is ever stranded on Forbes Ave for a week on traffic.

 

[Las Panteras]

The same places Pitt commuters, professors, staff, and UPMC employees park Monday through Friday. More than 50K descend upon Oakland every weekday and incredibally they all find parking and they all make it home. Nobody is ever stranded on Forbes Ave for a week on traffic.

FOR GODS SAKE.........

50K come to Oakland to make a living.......go to UPMC for necessary care....go to class.....

and i suspect that 99.9% of this 50K will tell you its a pain in the ass to get in and out of Oakland.

So ....now you use this argument to support your theory that 50K would come in on the weekend??? for something as UN-necessary as a football game?

HF works perfectly well for Pitt. if they ever lived up to their end and put a consistent winner on the field....the stadium issue would go away and half of the threads on this forum would evaporate.

 

[upj87]

Oakland businesses and parking were maxed out for a Duke bb game. And I'd suspect the city would fight Pitt every step of the way. I favor focusing on better linking Oakland and town instead.

I could be wrong, but I seem to remember a time when a football stadium sat smack dab in Oakland....could have pre-dated the automobile but I will have to check on that...

 

[HailToPitt1985]

The same places Pitt commuters, professors, staff, and UPMC employees park Monday through Friday. More than 50K descend upon Oakland every weekday and incredibally they all find parking and they all make it home. Nobody is ever stranded on Forbes Ave for a week on traffic.

LOL!!! You do realize that many of those same people and more will be in Oakland on weekends also, because of jobs, health care, etc.??? The football game will be a nuisance and an unnecessary inconvenience to most people. Heinz Field, as poor of a venue as that is, is absolutely the best option for Pitt now and well into the future. So please quit with the silly on-campus stadium noise!!!

 

[CrazyPaco]

Z2 has a new username? Every time this link is spammed on this board, I will remind the fans of my superior design: Chico Lind's Pitt Stadium 2.0.

I can't endorse this plan without an accompanying statue of Buddy Morris.

 

[JoseLind13]

I can't endorse this plan without an accompanying statue of Buddy Morris.

Great call, Paco. That is a huge oversight on my part. How about we have the Buddy statue emerging from the Mon River carrying a giant tree trunk over his shoulder?

 

[Swervin27]

Great call, Paco. That is a huge oversight on my part. How about we have the Buddy statue emerging from the Mon River carrying a giant tree trunk over his shoulder?

is this a "shoop" reference??

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

So ....now you use this argument to support your theory that 50K would come in on the weekend??? for something as UN-necessary as a football game?

I am saying that parking and traffic will not deter people from coming. Traffic will be bad but not as bad as people make it seem. Having done the Oakland rush hour commute before, it takes about 20 minutes just to get out of Oakland. I would estimate that it would take 45 minutes to get out of Oakland directly after a Pitt game (or 5 minutes if you grab a bite to eat after). A nuisance, sure. But in case you haven't noticed, Pitt gets about 0 Casual yinzers to come to Heinz. Its diehards only and those diehards are coming regardless.

What I think the stadium does is give Casual Yinzers a different experience, another reason for a family day out. Pitt at Heinz is like a Steelers Minor League game. I have heard people tout the atmosphere at Riverhounds games, Wild Things games, Pitt bball games, etc. Its something different, a change of pace. Pitt playing on campus gives its consumers something a little different. No more will it be an NFL minor league product but a true college football experience.

 

[JoseLind13]

is this a "shoop" reference??

If you want it to be, but was just intended as tribute to the Morris outdoorsman training tactics, such as players cutting down trees with sledge hammers.

 

[Swervin27]

If you want it to be, but was just intended as tribute to the Morris outdoorsman training tactics, such as players cutting down trees with sledge hammers.

In the movie Vision Quest, the high school nemesis was named Shoop, his training method was carrying a Tree Trunk over his shoulder while he climbed stairs. Ridiculously cool scene.. Now that I think about it, think the dude's name is Shute though, not Shoop..

 

[HailtoPitt]

If I can't roll into the Northside from Cranberry down 279 in my CR-V, grab a $17 beer while standing like a Sardine at the Tilted Kilt, walk through the Heinz Field gates with 3 minutes left in the first quarter, leave at the start of the fourth, and be back at home 5 minutes before the game ends, then I'm just not going to attend games.

 

[giveitarest]

I am saying that parking and traffic will not deter people from coming. Traffic will be bad but not as bad as people make it seem. Having done the Oakland rush hour commute before, it takes about 20 minutes just to get out of Oakland. I would estimate that it would take 45 minutes to get out of Oakland directly after a Pitt game (or 5 minutes if you grab a bite to eat after). A nuisance, sure. But in case you haven't noticed, Pitt gets about 0 Casual yinzers to come to Heinz. Its diehards only and those diehards are coming regardless.

What I think the stadium does is give Casual Yinzers a different experience, another reason for a family day out. Pitt at Heinz is like a Steelers Minor League game. I have heard people tout the atmosphere at Riverhounds games, Wild Things games, Pitt bball games, etc. Its something different, a change of pace. Pitt playing on campus gives its consumers something a little different. No more will it be an NFL minor league product but a true college football experience.

Took me 2+ hours to get out of Oakland after a Sunday afternoon BB game.

 

[Consultant Panther]

I can't endorse this plan without an accompanying statue of Buddy Morris.

LOL...That was the high point of my day so far!

 

[mdpitt]

The same places Pitt commuters, professors, staff, and UPMC employees park Monday through Friday. More than 50K descend upon Oakland every weekday and incredibally they all find parking and they all make it home. Nobody is ever stranded on Forbes Ave for a week on traffic.

You are making too much sense and you will be burned at the stake. People always seem to forget how many people work in Oakland M-F. Most college events also see people tailgate for 1-2 hours after the game but not in Oakland.

 

[cbpitt2]

The same places Pitt commuters, professors, staff, and UPMC employees park Monday through Friday. More than 50K descend upon Oakland every weekday and incredibally they all find parking and they all make it home. Nobody is ever stranded on Forbes Ave for a week on traffic.

Thank you SMF! Can we now never ask that question again as it's been answered? Just like the stupid statement, "but it will only be used seven times a year."

 

[HailtoPitt]

Took me 2+ hours to get out of Oakland after a Sunday afternoon BB game.

Many fans drive and/or fly for hours to attend a college game in some out of the way location in the middle of nowhere. Pitt fans who live in western PA can't even handle some extra traffic 6 times a year?

 

[eastcoasthoops]

Z2 has a new username? Every time this link is spammed on this board, I will remind the fans of my superior design: Chico Lind's Pitt Stadium 2.0.

I'm still calling dibs on the floating tailgate platform. Whatever happened to the new stadium rendition that included a cantilevered stadium built on top of the Cathedral? That was a plan that had real legs. Everyone could just chopper to the stadium and fly over any traffic jams on the Parkway or Forbes.

Tell me recruits wouldn't go wild for the chance to fast rope down to the field from Blackhawk helicopters adorned in Pitt script???

 

[Pittguy1980]

Took me 2+ hours to get out of Oakland after a Sunday afternoon BB game.

Yep.

 

[JoseLind13]

Just my 2 cents... I have commuted to Oakland for the past 15 years. I was an undergrad living on campus when Pitt Stadium was last present, so I never drove to any games in Oakland.

The flaw in the "50k go to Oakland each day and park" argument is that we don't all have the same arrival and departure time, we are not trying to get to the same exact spot on campus, and due to a significant shortage of parking spots in Oakland, many commuters must park outside Oakland and are shuttled from lots on Second Ave, the Southside, and the Hill. If you think people complain about parking in Allegheny Center garage for Heinz Field games, wait until their assigned parking spot is next to the Hot Metal Bridge.

For my own experience, the post-basketball game exit can be worse than the typical peak rush times. Clinical shifts traditionally turnover around 3-3:30pm and business shifts are traditionally 4:30-5:30. Students, management, and faculty commute times are all over the board. You end up with a 2+ hour period of tight congestion each rush hour with flowing congestion spanning steadily for several hours outside of those windows. I often leave after 7pm and can still encounter backups on Fifth.

I'm not arguing that it's impossible... just offering my experiences to the debate.

H2P!

 

[Pittguy1980]

You are making too much sense and you will be burned at the stake. People always seem to forget how many people work in Oakland M-F. Most college events also see people tailgate for 1-2 hours after the game but not in Oakland.

SMF is making sense? Lol.

And where can you tailgate in Oakland?

And finally, 50k might work in Oakland m-f, but they aren't all coming and leaving at practically the same time.

 

[Pittguy1980]

Many fans drive and/or fly for hours to attend a college game in some out of the way location in the middle of nowhere. Pitt fans who live in western PA can't even handle some extra traffic 6 times a year?

If I knew it was going to take 3 hours to get out of a parking garage after a game, I likely would not attend games.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

In the movie Vision Quest, the high school nemesis was named Shoop, his training method was carrying a Tree Trunk over his shoulder while he climbed stairs. Ridiculously cool scene.. Now that I think about it, think the dude's name is Shute though, not Shoop..

Shute! Shute! Shute!! I remember that.

 

[Swervin27]

Shute! Shute! Shute!! I remember that.

I knew you were gonna call me out on that. I deserve it..

 

[Swervin27]

SMF is making sense? Lol.

And where can you tailgate in Oakland?

And finally, 50k might work in Oakland m-f, but they aren't all coming and leaving at practically the same time.

Presby hospital cafeteria, 10th floor.. Or the falk library..

 

[mdpitt]

SMF is making sense? Lol.

And where can you tailgate in Oakland?

And finally, 50k might work in Oakland m-f, but they aren't all coming and leaving at practically the same time.

Have you considered Hospital Beds leaving Oakland and moving into new facilities.

Everyone seems to assume those old Hospital Buildings stay there forever.

 

[Pittguy1980]

Have you considered Hospital Beds leaving Oakland and moving into new facilities.

Everyone seems to assume those old Hospital Buildings stay there forever.

What???

We are talking about uprooting UPMC to allow a football stadium?

 

[ddc17]

SMF is making sense? Lol.

And where can you tailgate in Oakland?

And finally, 50k might work in Oakland m-f, but they aren't all coming and leaving at practically the same time.

I have said it numerous times, but why can't people tailgate on the cathedral lawn? Every other stadium i have been to uses grass for tailgating. I think people are accustomed to using parking lots because we have been at Heinz for 15 years. Also there schenley Park, etc. Hell I even tailgated in Notre Dame on their golf course. Take a look at how ND does it. A few remote parking areas with some VIP near the stadium. http://ndsp.nd.edu/assets/170506/fb_2015.pdf

 

[Swervin27]

I have said it numerous times, but why can't people tailgate on the cathedral lawn? Every other stadium i have been to uses grass for tailgating. I think people are accustomed to using parking lots because we have been at Heinz for 15 years. Also there schenley Park, etc. Hell I even tailgated in Notre Dame on their golf course. Take a look at how ND does it. A few remote parking areas with some VIP near the stadium. http://ndsp.nd.edu/assets/170506/fb_2015.pdf

my buddy went to the msu / Baylor game last year. He said you pretty much drink anywhere. The campus was the tailgating spot.. They must loosen up the open-container laws on gameday. A lot of venues are like that, you just tailgate wherever..

 

[mdpitt]

What???

We are talking about uprooting UPMC to allow a football stadium?

I didn't say that but I'm sure people notice that specialties are pushed outside of Pittsburgh for convenience. Landing UPMC downtown in a big way for care would be great for the City's future.

 

[NTOP]

Great call, Paco. That is a huge oversight on my part. How about we have the Buddy statue emerging from the Mon River carrying a giant tree trunk over his shoulder?

Or carrying the New Stadium?? Think of the press we'd get.

 

[NTOP]

I'm still calling dibs on the floating tailgate platform. Whatever happened to the new stadium rendition that included a cantilevered stadium built on top of the Cathedral? That was a plan that had real legs. Everyone could just chopper to the stadium and fly over any traffic jams on the Parkway or Forbes.

Tell me recruits wouldn't go wild for the chance to fast rope down to the field from Blackhawk helicopters adorned in Pitt script???

Zip lines from the upper campus to the new stadium.