VT is the best 1-7 team in ACC history

[Sean Miller Fan]

Taking it to Duke. Hunter Catoor is back and they are pretty loaded to be honest. Honestly, talent-wise they're Top 5 in the ACC.

 

[rockypanther]

When I was watching Catoor was on fire.

 

[Pittnerski]

ACC is so dumb this year. Could be a 10 bid league and will only probably get 6-7 in with FSU and Louisville dogging everyone and VT being terrible in conference

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

ACC is so dumb this year. Could be a 10 bid league and will only probably get 6-7 in with FSU and Louisville dogging everyone and VT being terrible in conference

And ND who returned everyone but that 1st Round Freshman. There are 10-11 teams with NCAAT bubble-type (at least) talent. But these teams screwed themselves. To Pitt and Capel's credit, they didnt lose to girls teams in November like the other ACC teams.

 

[DT_PITT]

Taking it to Duke. Hunter Catoor is back and they are pretty loaded to be honest. Honestly, talent-wise they're Top 5 in the ACC.

I saw this post and decided to turn on the game to see Va Tech "taking it to" Duke. So imagine my surprise the game came on and I saw the score was tied.

Just what it is with you and drama?!? LOL.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I saw this post and decided to turn on the game to see Va Tech "taking it to" Duke. So imagine my surprise the game came on and I saw the score was tied.

Just what it is with you and drama?!? LOL.

Ah, come on DT. Everyone knows that a ten point first half lead in college basketball is a lock.

A stone cold lock.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Hey, by the way, how many points were we winning by 5-1/4 minutes into last Saturday's game?

 

[DT_PITT]

Hey, by the way, how many points were we winning by 5-1/4 minutes into last Saturday's game?

Anyway ... I am glad I turned it one because this has been a fun game to watch.

 

[pittjas]

A strong win for the Conference Within the Conference?

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

So a player is allowed to accidentally punch someone if it is deemed celebratory. That is ridiculous.

 

[NCanton Panther]

So a player is allowed to accidentally punch someone if it is deemed celebratory. That is ridiculous.

Obviously not the same situation but saw that and it immediately reminded me of the call on Burton against Duke.

 

[PittMBA]

Obviously not the same situation but saw that and it immediately reminded me of the call on Burton against Duke.

Thought the same thing.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

A strong win for the Conference Within the Conference?

Huge. They are making a push to get 4 of their 12 teams in.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Obviously not the same situation but saw that and it immediately reminded me of the call on Burton against Duke.

There needs to be consistency. That’s my biggest issue with officiating.

 

[DT_PITT]

So a player is allowed to accidentally punch someone if it is deemed celebratory. That is ridiculous.

I kinda thought the same thing actually. I guess that's the rule because they didn't labor over it very long though.

 

[DT_PITT]

There needs to be consistency. That’s my biggest issue with officiating.

I think there is a difference though. It did kinda look like Burton twitched his arm up into his defenders face. (And for the record, I don't think that flagrant should have been called on Burton because their arms were otherwise entwined).

In the case with today, it was 100% clear that the pop to the face was completely non intentional. But it wasn't a basketball play in any way either.

But like I said, the refs looked at it for about 10 seconds and made their decision and no one on the Duke side seemed to have any issue with it at all.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

So a 2-1/2 point favorite ended up winning by 3 points.

That's got to be just about the most shocking result in the history of college basketball, or no?

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

I think there is a difference though. It did kinda look like Burton twitched his arm up into his defenders face. (And for the record, I don't think that flagrant should have been called on Burton because their arms were otherwise entwined).

It the case with today, it was 100% clear that the pop to the face was completely non intentional. But it wasn't a basketball play in any way either.

But like I said, the refs looked at it for about 10 seconds and made their decision and no one on the Duke side seemed to have any issue with it at all.

That was a Flagrant 1 tonight. No question about it. There’s no consistency.

 

[Sam Young 23]

Not sure how the officials review it and don't call the flagrant.

 

[DT_PITT]

That was a Flagrant 1 tonight. No question about it. There’s no consistency.

According to how Seth Greenburg explained it at halftime, he would completely agree with you (as would I). It doesn't matter if it's intentional.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

So a 2-1/2 point favorite ended up winning by 3 points.

That's got to be just about the most shocking result in the history of college basketball, or no?

Its not. VT isnt much less talented than Duke. They shouldn't be 1-7

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Its not. VT isnt much less talented than Duke. They shouldn't be 1-7

VT and FSU are both tough outs right now.

 

[Pitt79]

Taking it to Duke. Hunter Catoor is back and they are pretty loaded to be honest. Honestly, talent-wise they're Top 5 in the ACC.

So no time in the last 50 years did a bottom feeder ACC team upset Duke? Maybe you should check before saying that?

 

[Upg bobcat]

I guess I haven't looked at resumes of all the ACC teams. How is that they are so weak? Didn't the ACC win the ACC-Big 10 challenge?

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

I guess I haven't looked at resumes of all the ACC teams. How is that they are so weak? Didn't the ACC win the ACC-Big 10 challenge?

Well there’s the big ten ACC challenge then there’s the conference within the conference challenge

 

[FrogmoreZeke]

Its not. VT isnt much less talented than Duke. They shouldn't be 1-7

VT reminds me a lot of Clemson. They don't look like they are overly athletic but have a good inside and outside game, can defend and rebound. This is a totally crazy year in college hoops. Teams everywhere going on winning streaks and moving up in the rankings then immediately losing a few games in a row while looking pretty bad.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

VT reminds me a lot of Clemson. They don't look like they are overly athletic but have a good inside and outside game, can defend and rebound. This is a totally crazy year in college hoops. Teams everywhere going on winning streaks and moving up in the rankings then immediately losing a few games in a row while looking pretty bad.

Clemson is 1st. VT is near last. Clemson isn't much better than VT. In fact, it took a Clemson buzzer beater to beat them.

 

[pittchagg]

I guess I haven't looked at resumes of all the ACC teams. How is that they are so weak? Didn't the ACC win the ACC-Big 10 challenge?

The ACC is good, which is why a good VT team can get to be 2-7 or whatever if they run into a little injury stuff.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

VT and FSU are both tough outs right now.

Maybe they are part of the conference within the conference within the conference?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Maybe they are part of the conference within the conference within the conference?

Of course they are.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Clemson is 1st. VT is near last. Clemson isn't much better than VT. In fact, it took a Clemson buzzer beater to beat them.

Virginia Tech has played, and mostly lost, a ton of close games. BC beat them in overtime. Wake beat them by two. Clemson beat them by three the first time and by one, as you say, on a buzzer beater the second time. NC State beat them by four. They just beat Duke by three.

Even in the non-conference they beat ODU by five, Penn State by two, lost to Charleston by two, beat Charleston Southern by five and beat Oklahoma State by five.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Virginia Tech has played, and mostly lost, a ton of close games. BC beat them in overtime. Wake beat them by two. Clemson beat them by three the first time and by one, as you say, on a buzzer beater the second time. NC State beat them by four. They just beat Duke by three.

Even in the non-conference they beat ODU by five, Penn State by two, lost to Charleston by two, beat Charleston Southern by five and beat Oklahoma State by five.

Right. They are a Top 5 team in this league I think.

1. Clemson
2. Miami
3. UVa
4. UNC
5. VT
6. NC State
7/8 Pitt/Wake