Waited all this time to find out who the new OC would be....

[thebadby2]

After all this time, he's finally announced yesterday, and there is virtually no chatter or discussion about him on the board. This is the biggest news to the football program since Canada left, yet nobody is talking about the offenses he has run, his philosophies, his successes and failures, or anything else.

I take it the base is not all that excited about the hire, but is afraid to start criticizing it due to the Canada experience. Wisely so.

Interesting.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Sometimes there are some obviously good or bad hires but for me it's mostly wait and see. The only exception for me was when Pitt hired Stallings. I almost had a stroke like a lot of others.

Re Watson I did read something last night that said he's good with QBs and isn't stuck on 1 particular philosophy. He's good at building his offense around the talent he has.

 

[Cap pitt]

Well how did everyone feel when Narduzzi hired Canada after he was fired by NC St? and see how that worked out

 

[PittHOFs]

Not even a lot of buzz from the local media. The hire wasn't even on ESPN ticker last night.

 

[Swervin27]

I listened to his interview this morning, nothing really. No knock on him, dude has been here for 1/2 a day, not gonna throw out inside intel on our situation on his first day.. I think most of us are at a "Wait and see" here.. we've learned our lesson by knocking a hire before seeing the product..

This board has everyone on nails though, anyone is critical of the hire, they instantly get labeled a "yinzer" by the masses, If anyone says it's a great hire, you are a "homer" and are reminded to remove your blue and metallic gold sunglasses (I added the metallic)..

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Trust Nardawg selection.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[Parkview57]

Someone had a good post early last night, to sum it up, Watson has a lot of experience and has worked with and been a friend of HCPN for over 20 years. In my mind they can sit down and review what has really worked last year in terms of jet sweep etc,(after all he coaches QB's who just need to hand -off on these running plays, the rest of the staff is still there) , then he can bring his fresh ideas to the table and go from there. He may even be able to use most of the current terminology since he has been in a lot of systems over the past 35 years, instead of everyone else learning his terms. Just a hypothesis.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

After all this time, he's finally announced yesterday, and there is virtually no chatter or discussion about him on the board. This is the biggest news to the football program since Canada left, yet nobody is talking about the offenses he has run, his philosophies, his successes and failures, or anything else.

I take it the base is not all that excited about the hire, but is afraid to start criticizing it due to the Canada experience. Wisely so.

Interesting.

Very accurate but chatter on the Board is just showing Pitt Athletics is still in Transition.
1. Recruiting is over Top 30s again, some Sleepers some Misses!
2. New OC and Narduzzi goes with whom he has known.
3. Selection of Athletic Director Pending
4. Pitt Basketball In Downward Spiral
5. Some Done Some More Get Done.

Most Programs are in transitions seeing all the changes in Head Coaches, OC's and DC's, and great season awaits with some unknowns but the Coaches, Players and Fans are looking forward to it.

 

[TheNoise88]

The effects of a sorely butthurt fan base mostly disappointed (if not outright disgusted) at nearly all major coaching hires of the past decade. Not fair to the actual guy, "he deserves his chance", but the long long wait was almost certain to lead to underwhelm-ment. Remember, we're also still in the midst of the total disaster that is Stallings. That runs (a jagged knife) really deep. Barnes deserves foremost blame, and thankfully he's gone, but his boss(es) who idiotically watched the process and allowed it and signed off on it are still there writing (grudgingly) the checks. There's absolutely warranted pessimism.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"King Of All Message Boards, post: 1796890, member: 3016"]Sometimes there are some obviously good or bad hires but for me it's mostly wait and see. The only exception for me was when Pitt hired Stallings. I almost had a stroke like a lot of others.
Concur, it was how Stallings was hired by Barnes that is now gone. I have nothing against Stallings but Barnes did not come to Pitt to make Pitt It, he came for himself, and Leadership at Cathy has to now step up. Pitt continues to be in ACC Rebuilding Mode, but now farther back than ever in Basketball, and Football needs Staffing in Athletic Department and a Plan for Pitt Athletics Overall once and for all.

Re Watson I did read something last night that said he's good with QBs and isn't stuck on 1 particular philosophy. He's good at building his offense around the talent he has.
In 2015.
I waited to see how Coach Pat & Staff changed Attitudes and he did with the recruits, Players and his Coaches. In 2016, waited again to see how Pitt's New OC did and saw the Best Offense in Pitt History let down by a Defense in Rebuilding Progress but proved they could play and beat Big Ten & National Champions.

The Season looks brighter than ever with a few unknowns but I don't see any drop in Coach Pat & Staff for 2017 Confidence, Progress, and Pitt is far better since 2004, 2010, and look forward to 2017 and it is wait and see, but believe it too.

Athletic Department really needs a Special Hire, someone that lives, breaths, and knows Pitt Region, History, Present and a Plan Forward to support the Coaches and Rebuild Pitt Athletics in the ACC with Coach Narduzzi.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Not even a lot of buzz from the local media. The hire wasn't even on ESPN ticker last night.

Silence is sometimes Golden, this was the last OC hired in FBS football, many changes and all are waiting to see what is happening at many Teams like BAMA, Oregon, LSU, Baylor, ASU, Texas, and Notre Dame and others. Pitt is just in its 5th year in the ACC and 3rd Year of Narduzzi, Progress has been seen, and more needed, and coming as far as I am concern in trusting in Coach Pat's going with People he knows from his Past, but Pitt has to hit a Home Run for the next AD and that is what i want to see now.

Pederson's Poison still remains even in a distant memory, but Barnes Bum Buyouts and now gone shows Cathy made another mistake in that Hire, and time to get that Right once and for all.

 

[wbrpanther]

After all this time, he's finally announced yesterday, and there is virtually no chatter or discussion about him on the board. This is the biggest news to the football program since Canada left, yet nobody is talking about the offenses he has run, his philosophies, his successes and failures, or anything else.

I take it the base is not all that excited about the hire, but is afraid to start criticizing it due to the Canada experience. Wisely so.

Interesting.

Lack of chatter on the Pantherlair means this hire is generally OK with Pitt fans. especially the ones who actually think they know who would be bad and who would be a "splash". Silence is golden on the Lair.

 

[TheNoise88]

Lack of chatter on the Pantherlair means this hire is generally OK with Pitt fans. especially the ones who actually think they know who would be bad and who would be a "splash". Silence is golden on the Lair.

Or it's just another step toward "acceptance" on the grieving scale...

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I listened to his interview this morning, nothing really. No knock on him, dude has been here for 1/2 a day, not gonna throw out inside intel on our situation on his first day.. I think most of us are at a "Wait and see" here.. we've learned our lesson by knocking a hire before seeing the product..

This board has everyone on nails though, anyone is critical of the hire, they instantly get labeled a "yinzer" by the masses, If anyone says it's a great hire, you are a "homer" and are reminded to remove your blue and metallic gold sunglasses (I added the metallic)..

I am not worried at all and Narduzzi is great happy and now up to see how the Coaches and Players react in Spring Ball.

But this Football Staff needs help in the Athletic Department to advance to the next level and needs an AD that wants to be at Pitt a long time with Narduzzi to Rebuild Pitt Football and let Basketball follow this time.

Curing Polio was easier than finding a Cas Myslinski to Rebuild Pitt Football for Pitt not Himself!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Lack of chatter on the Pantherlair means this hire is generally OK with Pitt fans. especially the ones who actually think they know who would be bad and who would be a "splash". Silence is golden on the Lair.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Someone had a good post early last night, to sum it up, Watson has a lot of experience and has worked with and been a friend of HCPN for over 20 years. In my mind they can sit down and review what has really worked last year in terms of jet sweep etc,(after all he coaches QB's who just need to hand -off on these running plays, the rest of the staff is still there) , then he can bring his fresh ideas to the table and go from there. He may even be able to use most of the current terminology since he has been in a lot of systems over the past 35 years, instead of everyone else learning his terms. Just a hypothesis.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Trust Nardawg selection.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Or it's just another step toward "acceptance" on the grieving scale...

Let the New AD Selection prove that, and there is funk over Pitt Basketball due to Barnes Bum Buyouts and now Running Back Home with his Todd Turner Consultants getting it done for Barnes but not Pitt Pocket$! This The New Wait & See At Pitt Again Not Pat Narduzzi & Watson!

 

[Pitt1992]

The players seem really happy with the choice,Watson worked with Wilson at IU and they ran a similar type offense so I would expect to see most of the same offense we saw this past year which is good for continuity

 

[TheNoise88]

Curing Polio was easier than finding a Cas Myslinski to Rebuild Pitt Football for Pitt not Himself!

Great line!

 

[CorsosRevenge]

Chatter with this bunch generally means bitching. I like the hire. If you read the resume this guy played a big part in Charlie Strong rebuilding Louisville and beating Florida in the Sugar Bowl. I put a lot more weight on that than what happened at Texas, where the rich and powerful were straight-up against the coaching staff.

We didn't do what we normally do, which is to hire the guy in the office down the hall (Matt House).

 

[raleighpanther]

The effects of a sorely butthurt fan base mostly disappointed (if not outright disgusted) at nearly all major coaching hires of the past decade. Not fair to the actual guy, "he deserves his chance", but the long long wait was almost certain to lead to underwhelm-ment. Remember, we're also still in the midst of the total disaster that is Stallings. That runs (a jagged knife) really deep. Barnes deserves foremost blame, and thankfully he's gone, but his boss(es) who idiotically watched the process and allowed it and signed off on it are still there writing (grudgingly) the checks. There's absolutely warranted pessimism.

The thing is, Narduzzi was clearly not in a hurry to hire an OC. He took his time last year too. If the long wait from the fans perspective led anyone to build the hire up in their heads, so that anyone short of Belichick as the coordinator would cause disappointment, well that's on them.

 

[pittdan77]

The thing is, Narduzzi was clearly not in a hurry to hire an OC. He took his time last year too. If the long wait from the fans perspective led anyone to build the hire up in their heads, so that anyone short of Belichick as the coordinator would cause disappointment, well that's on them.

I seriously doubt Narduzzi hung up the phone with AJ Davis on signing day and looked around his desk wondering if he should make a few calls about an OC. My guess is that it was kept quiet for some reason. Maybe as a favor to Indiana or maybe to keep someone's stupid negative recruiting from becoming an issue. Either way, I think this board was pretty confident in whatever Narduzzi was going to do and that speaks volumes about where we're going as a program.

 

[raleighpanther]

Oh yes, I agree. I wasn't suggesting that he put it off all this time. I think he was talking to candidates over a period of time, and then he made a decision, and like you suggested, waited until after signing day to make the announcement. How long ago the decision was made is anyone's guess.

BTW, the criticism made by some that he needed to make a quick hire to help with recruiting was proven to be totally unfounded. We got our best offensive skill commitments during the time we didn't have an OC. One QB committed (Browne), the other re-committed (Pickett), and then we got a top running back (Davis), and what looks like the big-time WR we were looking for (Smith).

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I seriously doubt Narduzzi hung up the phone with AJ Davis on signing day and looked around his desk wondering if he should make a few calls about an OC. My guess is that it was kept quiet for some reason. Maybe as a favor to Indiana or maybe to keep someone's stupid negative recruiting from becoming an issue. Either way, I think this board was pretty confident in whatever Narduzzi was going to do and that speaks volumes about where we're going as a program.

Spot On and Dead On Right, Recruiting was #1 Focus before SOI day, other Coaches & Programs were making News and much Ballyhoo about OC's when Priorities were Recruits!

My Goodness, if Pitt Posters, Fans and Alumni can't see the Change in Attitude, Focus and Persistence that Coach Pat Narduzzi just exudes with Confidence, Genuine Character, and Concentration of making Pitt Is It!

It is Night and Day as far as I am concern. Coach Pat is not a young Johnny Majors looking for abetter Gig to get back to UTENN, nor a Great Jackie Sherrrill that took A&M Biggest CFB Contract Money in History at that time, nor the Bozo Bozik's Picks Foge & Gottfried, followed by Hackett-Majors Again, and Pederson's Pleads to come to Pitt in Walt, or Nebraska's Callahan, or Nordenberg;s choice in Wannstedt's Reestablishing Pitt Recruiting contacts again, and then Pederosn's Poison at Pitt again, in Consultant's Spouse Beater Haywood, Graham's Scram, and Paul Chryst Internship to get a Heading Coaching Job as sent by Barry Alvarez on Pitt's Dime!

Coach Pat wants to be at Pitt, stay at Pitt and Build a Top 25 Program at Pitt again! Clear as Night versus Day!

Good Post Pittdan77!

 

[raleighpanther]

The new OC is in an un-enviable position.
He is taking over a team that had an explosive, fun to watch, largely error free, high scoring offense last year. And the team is losing its starting QB, RB, two OLmen --all of whom are projected to go in the first few rounds of the NFL draft -- plus its top 2 TEs. There is talent to fill in, but expecting it to be as good, and run as smoothly as the team as did, is a lot to ask.

Given that Narduzzi has said that the new guy would keep the same 2016 offense with tweaks, if the 2017 offense looks as good and is as successful as last year, much of the credit will likely stay with Canada, and Watson will be seen by some as just the shepperd who kept it going, and if it isn't as successful, he'll be blamed for screwing it up.

Wish him luck.

 

[WCSordill]

I am not worried at all and Narduzzi is great happy and now up to see how the Coaches and Players react in Spring Ball.

But this Football Staff needs help in the Athletic Department to advance to the next level and needs an AD that wants to be at Pitt a long time with Narduzzi to Rebuild Pitt Football and let Basketball follow this time.

Curing Polio was easier than finding a Cas Myslinski to Rebuild Pitt Football for Pitt not Himself!

Cap, is it possible that the guy you are describing for AD is EJ Borghetti, or does he just not have the chops for the job?

 

[Jpripper88]

The new OC is in an un-enviable position.
He is taking over a team that had an explosive, fun to watch, largely error free, high scoring offense last year. And the team is losing its starting QB, RB, two OLmen --all of whom are projected to go in the first few rounds of the NFL draft -- plus its top 2 TEs. There is talent to fill in, but expecting it to be as good, and run as smoothly as the team as did, is a lot to ask.

Given that Narduzzi has said that the new guy would keep the same 2016 offense with tweaks, if the 2017 offense looks as good and is as successful as last year, much of the credit will likely stay with Canada, and Watson will be seen by some as just the shepperd who kept it going, and if it isn't as successful, he'll be blamed for screwing it up.

Wish him luck.

This is true. It will not be an easy evaluation for Watson either way. Still, you get paid far too much money in this industry to be exempt from criticism. Either produce or get on.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Cap, is it possible that the guy you are describing for AD is EJ Borghetti, or does he just not have the chops for the job?

I have no clue and have distant myself from Pitt like most prior Boosters, Pederson's Poison turned off most and many of us, and few leaving money to Pitt in Wills. Pitt Leadership tried its best and gets credit for bringing Football Back to Winning, but that was never enough.

Barnes did Listen when he came in, on bringing back Pitt Traditions, but his use of Todd Turner Consultants really did more damage To Pitt Leadership and now even more Boosters just don't care anymore nor believe Pitt Leadership will change.

I myself will be leaving soon and no longer cares what happen. Pitt Athletic Leadership has been terrible and even Dr. Juhl got it wrong when he brought in Barnes. Barnes blew the Basketball hiring & Buyouts with his rewarding of his Former Boss's Consultants caring more about them then Pitt.

Barnes Lack Of IQ:
1. TCU badly wants Jamie Dixon Its Own Alumnus for BB Coach?
2. Vanderbilt Ready to Fire Stalling, Collegiate Client?
BARNES IQ = Duh.....I'll Call Todd Turner My Old Boss That Hired Stallings!!!!

Turner To Dumbo Barnes: "I need to save my ole pick Stalling and you need a New BB Coach, hire me and i'll get it done by making Pitt take less for its Buyout and you giving my Friend Stalling a Pitt 6 Year Contract before he is fired and F-Pitt its only money."

Barnes To Turner: "Oh Shucks Boss where would I be without you hiring me, Lets do it, and by the way can you get me AD job at Oregon State?" Turner, "One Step At A Time Dumbo, I mean Mr. Barnes."
http://collegiatesportsassociates.com/portfolio_item/basketball-coaches/

TCU to Turner, "Thank You Saved Us Millions".........Turner Back at TCU...."You Owe Me One!"

Vanderbilt to Turner: "Thank You for fixing getting rid of Stalling after you brought him in years ago, he only went to 7 NCAA?" Turner: "You Owe Me Too!"

Barnes after Pitt Press Conference....."Duh, Mr. Turner, I May Need That Job Now In Oregon? Turner To Barnes, Wait until we get all the Pitt Money spread around and then we will take care of you!

Barnes...."OK Boss, I Owe You, Just like you said, These Pitt Guys are really Dummies, look they hired me and they spend money on Consultants that rob them, Oh sorry boss did not mean you!"

Pitt got $392,000 of Barnes's Buyout from Oregon State, while misspending millions fro Pitt Buyouts on TCU really wanting Jamie Dixon, and then taking Stallings as if he was in demand anywhere? What a joke and everyone knows it!

Pitt's Leadership really got to get this next Athletic Director Selection right and have to understand what Pederson Poison still did to Pitt followed by a Dumb Barnes Buyout Bubblings and paying This Mentor Todd Turner 6 Figures to do it to Pitt again like Pederson did many times. Few Boosters have confidence Pitt can do it, but with Narduzzi on the Committee there is a hope!

No Pitt Boosters wants to give money to Pitt with such poor judgments that came from Pederson's Consultants No Due Diligence Bio Background Search of Haywood, Nordenberg's Swan Song of Pederson Contract Renewal, Pederson's Buyout, Dixon Buyout, Stallings Six Year Contract, Retaining Barnes's Mentor Collegiate Consultants that all did very bad jobs for Pitt and in the case of Pederson even worse at Nebraska but smart enough to fire him, unlike Pitt Re-hiring him.

The Alumni, and Boosters knew it last year as Barnes looked like a Dumb Jock introducing Stallings to a Media skeptical of Barnes explanations and by no means happy how that was handled at all. Barnes is gone now just like Pederson, but leaving Stallings Contract for Pitt Money to wait until he can win again or be bought out again?

Just piss poor Athletic Management since 1983 and being messed up by Pitt Outsiders that have no clue about the region.

Coach Pat Narduzzi is the exception and time for Pitt Leadership on the First Floor of Cathy to get the message they need an Athletic Director that will rebuild the Athletic Program and will find Boosters & Sponsors to rebuild Pitt with a Plan to do it, and not caring about their careers but focus on believing, staying, and doing what Coach Pat is doing at Pitt with persistence and confidence and knows the region.

EJ Borghetti knows and loves Pitt, Chris Lasala from Aliquippa is a WVU Grad but knows Pitt too, Dan Radokavich won't come unless she knows he can hire his own People,

Smiley Pederson Face Poisoned Two Programs at Pitt & NU, & Barnes Dumb Jock UNC Consultants were just as bad career climbing Bums, and those 3 you and me mention above can do much better finding New Ways for Pitt to Dream like in 1972!

Andy Edfield made Millions and left it all to become a Basketball Coach and is from Pennsylvania and does not care about money and would have come to Pitt to Coach in the ACC and for Pitt a long time. Just like Narduzzi waited for the Pitt job.

They are not Career Climbers but just love Coaching Football & Basketball and time for Pitt to find someone that wants that Athletic Director Job with a Pitt Athletic Building Plan over Pitt Buyouts of other Alumni Bums that used Pitt to Climb with their poor Conflicts of Bad Consultants!

Up to Pitt Leadership to find those People. I think they are within 100-300 Miles Radius or a Few Miles Away but they can't seem to show much Judgment!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

This is true. It will not be an easy evaluation for Watson either way. Still, you get paid far too much money in this industry to be exempt from criticism. Either produce or get on.

Jpripper88, any thoughts on LSU's changes to take on BAMA. Expectations are sky high as I see it, and never was a fan of Orgeron? I think he is Great Assistant but can't hack it as a Head Coach. I see Orgeron Gone within 3 years. Canada will leave sooner too. LSU has given him everything to succeed and we shall see?
Enjoy reading your views.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

Well, I am taking the approach I always take with hires like this one: a wait and see approach.

I have found that approach serves me much better than getting too worked up either way over a candidate about whom I know very little.

I would say that my mindset is basically cautious optimism. This coach has done a good job with his hires and I have no reason not to trust this one either.

 

[Jpripper88]

Jpripper88, any thoughts on LSU's changes to take on BAMA. Expectations are sky high as I see it, and never was a fan of Orgeron? I think he is Great Assistant but can't hack it as a Head Coach. I see Orgeron Gone within 3 years. Canada will leave sooner too. LSU has given him everything to succeed and we shall see?
Enjoy reading your views.

I think they are out of their minds to chase Saban. If that is their expectation they should just wait on retirement. Father in Law is an LSU grad and booster and he wanted to keep Miles because he realized things were at least solid and there was a lightning in a bottle chance with him. I think O has surrounded himself with coaching talent and will recruit, but they aren't going to consistently beat Alabama, so they made some big changes and cost themselves a lot of money for less of a sure thing and a lower ceiling IMO. I am ok with O getting another shot, though. He is a great guy and can recruit and motivate with the best of them. That is a HUGE part of the job and probably the most important part of the job IMO. That plus knowing to surround yourself with smart competent people who can do their job. He didn't get that part of it when he was at Ole Miss. Maybe he figures it out this time around. However, I still don't think he bests Saban.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Jpripper88, post: 1797357, member: 2044"]I think they are out of their minds to chase Saban. If that is their expectation they should just wait on retirement. Father in Law is an LSU grad and booster and he wanted to keep Miles because he realized things were at least solid and there was a lightning in a bottle chance with him.
Good Info, Thank You! I thought Miles was perfect fit too, but LSU Boosters Panic.

I think O has surrounded himself with coaching talent and will recruit, but they aren't going to consistently beat Alabama, so they made some big changes and cost themselves a lot of money for less of a sure thing and a lower ceiling IMO.
Agree again, and they have put great pressure on O to succeed right away. And beating Saban is not as easy as the expectations the LSU Boosters will demand.

I am ok with O getting another shot, though. He is a great guy and can recruit and motivate with the best of them. That is a HUGE part of the job and probably the most important part of the job IMO. That plus knowing to surround yourself with smart competent people who can do their job. He didn't get that part of it when he was at Ole Miss. Maybe he figures it out this time around.
I differ he was at USC and he did a great job taking over, but then sulked and pouted and then went to Ole Miss and failed MISSerable 3-8, 4-8, & 3-8 in my view. He improved recruiting there too, but did not win.

However, I still don't think he bests Saban.
We shall see, but I was told by some USC Boosters O is tad Hot Headed
and like you say can recruit, but will still lose 2 to 3 games every year, even if he has everything he needs to wins. I find it odd he is paid just $3.5 Million but Boosters augment Canada to $3 million for OC.

I see him having to go 10-2 or better this year and even better the next few too, we shall see? Thank you great insight and post!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Well, I am taking the approach I always take with hires like this one: a wait and see approach.

I have found that approach serves me much better than getting too worked up either way over a candidate about whom I know very little.

I would say that my mindset is basically cautious optimism. This coach has done a good job with his hires and I have no reason not to trust this one either.

 

[thebadby2]

Well how did everyone feel when Narduzzi hired Canada after he was fired by NC St? and see how that worked out

That was the point of my post.

 

[thebadby2]

The new OC is in an un-enviable position.
He is taking over a team that had an explosive, fun to watch, largely error free, high scoring offense last year. And the team is losing its starting QB, RB, two OLmen --all of whom are projected to go in the first few rounds of the NFL draft -- plus its top 2 TEs. There is talent to fill in, but expecting it to be as good, and run as smoothly as the team as did, is a lot to ask.

Given that Narduzzi has said that the new guy would keep the same 2016 offense with tweaks, if the 2017 offense looks as good and is as successful as last year, much of the credit will likely stay with Canada, and Watson will be seen by some as just the shepperd who kept it going, and if it isn't as successful, he'll be blamed for screwing it up.

Wish him luck.

The new OC is in an un-enviable position.
He is taking over a team that had an explosive, fun to watch, largely error free, high scoring offense last year. And the team is losing its starting QB, RB, two OLmen --all of whom are projected to go in the first few rounds of the NFL draft -- plus its top 2 TEs. There is talent to fill in, but expecting it to be as good, and run as smoothly as the team as did, is a lot to ask.

This is a very real concern, I hope most posters realize that the personnel losses, particularly at QB and OL, will have an impact.

 

[thebadby2]

Well, I am taking the approach I always take with hires like this one: a wait and see approach.

I have found that approach serves me much better than getting too worked up either way over a candidate about whom I know very little.

I would say that my mindset is basically cautious optimism. This coach has done a good job with his hires and I have no reason not to trust this one either.

This is where we should all be on this hire.

 

[steel_curtain]

The new OC is in an un-enviable position.
He is taking over a team that had an explosive, fun to watch, largely error free, high scoring offense last year. And the team is losing its starting QB, RB, two OLmen --all of whom are projected to go in the first few rounds of the NFL draft -- plus its top 2 TEs. There is talent to fill in, but expecting it to be as good, and run as smoothly as the team as did, is a lot to ask.

This is a very real concern, I hope most posters realize that the personnel losses, particularly at QB and OL, will have an impact.

-Ill take that bet the Oline or RB's dont miss a single beat this year. QB will be TBD. Keep recruiting Athletic elephants like Warren and Drake and our Oline will continue to bulldoze defenses with ease. Dorian Johnson started as a freshmen, Biz started as a redshirt freshmen. The 2 monsters we have coming in are both taller and bigger than Johnson and Biz, both are 1st Team All State, and both have loaded offer sheets.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

A give the hire a hearty meh

 

[W1np1tt]

I heard that this was the guy HCPN wanted when he was first hired here so I'm going to trust him.