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Thoughts on Pitt Football

I find it interesting how Narduzzi and Tomlin are pretty much the same person. Mediocrity accepted, poor time managers, and no mid-game adjustments, play not to lose, yet many consider Tomlin to be a great coach(I 1000% don't think this way). In fact, I would say that Tomlin has done way less with more.

This is not advocating for Narduzzi, but just something I find strange.
You probably find it really strange that Tomlin will easily make the HOF. There is simply no way those two coaches belong in the same sentence.
 
Everyone on this board knows the deal with college football today. The problem is that there aren't enough people that care to have skin in Pitt's game. You'll see post after post making excuses as to why they won't, even when Pitt was 7-0, instead of rallying around fixing the problems like fans of the big boy programs do. Many of the same ones crying for buying better coaching or on-field talent are the same boasting about how they won't help. There are loyal sons, and those submerged in the delusion that they are.
Anyone who is asked to make an investment into any fund(NIL) should want to know what is the endgame for their investment. Secondly, if you're going to ask "investors" to support your product, you should have a product worth investing in. Right now, who would want to invest in a product led by Pat Narduzzi?
You have a 10 year view of Pitt Football prospectus under Pat Narduzzi and it's mid at best. Why would you want to keep throwing money at an instrument that's not going to bring any real return on your funds? If you want more/additional funds, outline the plan to make the product better - that starts with new leadership. Anything less than that is like investing in...
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Anyone who is asked to make an investment into any fund(NIL) should want to know what is the endgame for their investment. Secondly, if you're going to ask "investors" to support your product, you should have a product worth investing in. Right now, who would want to invest in a product led by Pat Narduzzi?
You have a 10 year view of Pitt Football prospectus under Pat Narduzzi and it's mid at best. Why would you want to keep throwing money at an instrument that's not going to bring any real return on your funds? If you want more/additional funds, outline the plan to make the product better - that starts with new leadership. Anything less than that is like investing in...
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Enron412: where the sum of our digits are about the most wins you can expect from your donations.
 
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The thing I'm looking at is I felt the players all shown glimpses through the year. Offensive and defensive. They may not be the best of the best but can win you games. There was only one player to me I had scratching my head and that was Matlack at DE. Dude was a ghost to me l. He got that sack yesterday and I was like oh he's still here. I'm sure he helped in some fashion but.

With that said I thought the players played well and gave it their all. So who do you blame? Coaches, knowing your players strength and using it. Like running a 160 pound running back up the middle after EVERY big 1st down. You could sit there and after every first down when they did hurry up , it was a run to the middle. It's like okay big play! Now let's waste a play. I don't HATE the coaches however it's time for a change up in the head department. Get us a new defense structure that mixes it up a bit more and more flexible with scheme. This whole 3 linebackers on the field 80% isn't cutting it anymore (regardless of athletic ability because our guys were great this year, however put in some bad situations due to defensive structure)

Idk I was a huge Narduzzi supporter all these years but this melt down with lack luster performances, team looking they shouldn't even be on the field, the penalties, and the slow starts where just enough for me. But I understand the buyout and we aren't like the blue bloods that will pay 76 million to get rid of a Jimbo Fisher.
 
Is that what really bothers you? It certainly is the most-parroted excuse.

If he wins one this year, it will be interesting to see what the replacement complaint will be. Since, of course, one of the true main reasons people complain about him is something that can't be changed.
That's easy....Gee, he's only won one playoff game in 8 years....
 
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This year...so far. The Steelers, like Pitt, have benefited from a weak schedule. Let's see how this plays out with the remaining games.
The Steelers are currently 5-0 against teams in the playoffs, 3-3 against team on the outside looking in. Because they didn't take care of business against the non-contenders, they won't be in contention for one of the top seeds.

Pitt didn't take care of business against Virginia and Boston College. It's a great season if Pitt beats both those weak teams.
 
Talk about playing dumb...I don't think you're playing....

What's the difference between Narduzzi in 2021 and 2024? If you can answer that, then you'll be on track to finding a clue as to what is the solution...

I will give you credit though, at least you gave a suggestion (a coach in waiting). Though it never works, but at least you tried....
Ha, ha, he’s been mediocre from day 1, and with the exception of 2021 hasn’t made any strides in building a program unless you’re a fan of treading water. This isn’t really about 2021 vs 2024 but more about his 10 year resume which shows a coach who manages to lose 5 games per year. The fact that you’re still fixated on 2021 and aren’t more broadly concerned about his entire body of work shows you’re either asleep at the switch or happy with a top 50 FB program….and then you want people to invest in that exciting proposition. And lastly, despite the HC’s babbling to the contrary, this team quit on him….just as last year’s team did. They both buckled under his incompetence.
 
Anyone who is asked to make an investment into any fund(NIL) should want to know what is the endgame for their investment. Secondly, if you're going to ask "investors" to support your product, you should have a product worth investing in. Right now, who would want to invest in a product led by Pat Narduzzi?
You have a 10 year view of Pitt Football prospectus under Pat Narduzzi and it's mid at best. Why would you want to keep throwing money at an instrument that's not going to bring any real return on your funds? If you want more/additional funds, outline the plan to make the product better - that starts with new leadership. Anything less than that is like investing in...
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And that the Pitt fan base deserves a 7-win program.

It is always the same types that get riled up by the truth of posts that point out the limitations of a mid-sized fan based with bottom of the power 5 giving levels.
 
And that the Pitt fan base deserves a 7-win program.

It is always the same types that get riled up by the truth of posts that point out the limitations of a mid-sized fan based with bottom of the power 5 giving levels.
So why are we even talking about donations or additional monies?
 
You're right. Narduzzi isn't getting fired.

But the program isn't worth following till he's gone.

Programs either have success, or hope, or optimism of someone new. We have none of that.

Why do you think another coach would be better than the guy that had Pitt football performing at a 40 year high before NIL kicked in?

As a UVA basketball fan, Tony Bennett won a Natty & could still win the ACC when NIL began. Think it's a coincidence that UVA basketball is no longer relevant? Why would they be better off going a different direction?

It doesn't matter what either school does with their head coaching position. There are zero tangible reasons for hope or optimism that either program will be anything other than mediocre until they remedy the real problem. Coaching changes give hope to weak minded fools. They want to believe better days are just around the corner with a coaching change & that elite talent procurement really isn't vital to having a successful program.

There is no reason for hope & optimism iff Pitt keeps Pat Narduzzi. There is no reason for hope or optimism if they can him either. People should be smart enough to realize that and maybe take some of Neal Brown's advice. The Majors/Sherrill days are over and they aren't going to return.
 
Why do you think another coach would be better than the guy that had Pitt football performing at a 40 year high before NIL kicked in?

As a UVA basketball fan, Tony Bennett won a Natty & could still win the ACC when NIL began. Think it's a coincidence that UVA basketball is no longer relevant? Why would they be better off going a different direction?

It doesn't matter what either school does with their head coaching position. There are zero tangible reasons for hope or optimism that either program will be anything other than mediocre until they remedy the real problem. Coaching changes give hope to weak minded fools. They want to believe better days are just around the corner with a coaching change & that elite talent procurement really isn't vital to having a successful program.

There is no reason for hope & optimism iff Pitt keeps Pat Narduzzi. There is no reason for hope or optimism if they can him either. People should be smart enough to realize that and maybe take some of Neal Brown's advice. The Majors/Sherrill days are over and they aren't going to return.

Because the game has changed.
 
Why do you think another coach would be better than the guy that had Pitt football performing at a 40 year high before NIL kicked in?

As a UVA basketball fan, Tony Bennett won a Natty & could still win the ACC when NIL began. Think it's a coincidence that UVA basketball is no longer relevant? Why would they be better off going a different direction?

It doesn't matter what either school does with their head coaching position. There are zero tangible reasons for hope or optimism that either program will be anything other than mediocre until they remedy the real problem. Coaching changes give hope to weak minded fools. They want to believe better days are just around the corner with a coaching change & that elite talent procurement really isn't vital to having a successful program.

There is no reason for hope & optimism iff Pitt keeps Pat Narduzzi. There is no reason for hope or optimism if they can him either. People should be smart enough to realize that and maybe take some of Neal Brown's advice. The Majors/Sherrill days are over and they aren't going to return.
What exactly is Neal Brown’s advice?
 
And let’s be honest
Pat was mediocre before .
Hell we lost to western Michigan in his best season

That's college football. Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois this year.

Pitt is a mediocre, second rate program. We can't even compete with regional P4 powers like tOSU or PSU for recruits. He has the program at a 40 year high.

Ya know, Pitt basketball, in it's glory years failed to reach a Final Four. I can name a shit load of shitty coaches at shitty programs that made a Final Four. Just saying.
 
That's college football. Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois this year.

Pitt is a mediocre, second rate program. We can't even compete with regional P4 powers like tOSU or PSU for recruits. He has the program at a 40 year high.

Ya know, Pitt basketball, in it's glory years failed to reach a Final Four. I can name a shit load of shitty coaches at shitty programs that made a Final Four. Just saying.
You thought Kevin stallings was a good coach
You’re weird .
 
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