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Week 7 ACC Bowl Standings and Coastal scenarios

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Peach or Fiesta: Clemson
Orange: Louisville

Russell Athletic: Florida State

Tier 1 (Gator/Music City, Belk, Sun, Pinstripe)
Miami
Virginia Tech
North Carolina
North Carolina State

Tier 2
Detroit: Pitt
St. Pete: Notre Dame
Military: Wake Forest
Independence: GT

Pitt, pretty much has to get to 9 wins to get a Tier 1 bowl because of the "within 1 win" rule and our poor traveling history. Since that seems unlikely, our next best shot at a Tier 1 Bowl is if we go 8-4 (or possibly 7-5) and the ACC sends a third team to a NY6 bowl....which is possible. That would open up a Tier 1 spot.


As for the Coastal, it was a perfect day for Pitt. Pitt wins plus UNC and Miami losses means Pitt is 1 UNC loss away from controlling our own destiny. If UNC loses at Miami on Saturday, we could wake up Sunday knowing we are 5 straight wins away from Orlando. However impossible that may be considering it would take a run of a 3 gamr gauntlet (VT, @ Miami, @ Clemson), it would be a good feeling.

More realistically, since Pitt is almost assured of a loss at Clemson, we have to win the rest, go 6-2 and hope that UNC loses 2 of @ Miami, @ UVa, GT, @ Duke, NCSU AND VT loses 1 of @ Syr, Miami, @ Duke, GT, UVa.

If it came down to Pitt and VT, it would be the perfect example of the imbalance in ACC scheduling. They would play the same 7 teams with the 8th being VT playing BC and Pitt playing Clemson.
 
Detroit wasn't a bad day trip bowl game...St Pete would be a nice change of weather for a couple days...I am not fooling myself into thinking we are beating Miami or Clemson at their home fields...
 
I'm not sure ND gets bowl eligible at this point so perhaps we'd get St. Pete with an 8-4 record. That record could slide us up to the Pinstripe too. Especially given the large showing Pitt had at last year's bowl game. The VT game is going to be big for bowl position and program perception. I love the fact we're winning the games we should win and a lot of the toss up games. To take the next step, we really need to pull out a game we're not supposed to. VT I believe is our best chance in that three game gauntlet.
 
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I'd think we'd have a decent shot at either the Sun bowl or Pinstripe. We'd travel to Pinstripe, and Sun relies on the local support.

Assuming we can win 7 or 8.
 
Rockyhound said:
I'm not sure ND gets bowl eligible at this point so perhaps we'd get St. Pete with an 8-4 record. That record could slide us up to the Pinstripe too. Especially given the large showing Pitt had at last year's bowl game. The VT game is going to be big for bowl position and program perception. I love the fact we're winning the games we should win and a lot of the toss up games. To take the next step, we really need to pull out a game we're not supposed to. VT I believe is our best chance in that three game gauntlet.
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St. Pete is possible if ND doesn't win 6 but I think they'd take GT, which is reasonable driving distance rather than relying on Pitt fans to book flights.
 
ThePanthers said:
Depends on how standings finish.

http://www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_...wl-projections-virginia-tech-takes-a-big-step

ESPN is predicting us to the Sun Bowl.
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What does that mean?

Lets use common sense. I realize that very few fans from ANY school travel to the remote outpost of El Paso......but NC State is really one of the better traveling fanbases out there. If they have similar records and they sell 500 or 1000 more Sun Bowl tickets, its a no brainer to select them.
 
Most likely Pitt is Pinstripe per experts. Hopefully a warmer climate bowl will be on the radar
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
What does that mean?

Lets use common sense. I realize that very few fans from ANY school travel to the remote outpost of El Paso......but NC State is really one of the better traveling fanbases out there. If they have similar records and they sell 500 or 1000 more Sun Bowl tickets, its a no brainer to select them.
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They will get selected for a game that depends on the traveling fan base. That is using common sense.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Peach or Fiesta: Clemson
Orange: Louisville

Russell Athletic: Florida State

Tier 1 (Gator/Music City, Belk, Sun, Pinstripe)
Miami
Virginia Tech
North Carolina
North Carolina State

Tier 2
Detroit: Pitt
St. Pete: Notre Dame
Military: Wake Forest
Independence: GT

Pitt, pretty much has to get to 9 wins to get a Tier 1 bowl because of the "within 1 win" rule and our poor traveling history. Since that seems unlikely, our next best shot at a Tier 1 Bowl is if we go 8-4 (or possibly 7-5) and the ACC sends a third team to a NY6 bowl....which is possible. That would open up a Tier 1 spot.


As for the Coastal, it was a perfect day for Pitt. Pitt wins plus UNC and Miami losses means Pitt is 1 UNC loss away from controlling our own destiny. If UNC loses at Miami on Saturday, we could wake up Sunday knowing we are 5 straight wins away from Orlando. However impossible that may be considering it would take a run of a 3 gamr gauntlet (VT, @ Miami, @ Clemson), it would be a good feeling.

More realistically, since Pitt is almost assured of a loss at Clemson, we have to win the rest, go 6-2 and hope that UNC loses 2 of @ Miami, @ UVa, GT, @ Duke, NCSU AND VT loses 1 of @ Syr, Miami, @ Duke, GT, UVa.

If it came down to Pitt and VT, it would be the perfect example of the imbalance in ACC scheduling. They would play the same 7 teams with the 8th being VT playing BC and Pitt playing Clemson.
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NCSU? I'll believe it when I see it.
 
Pitt is likely to lose three in a row after UVA, which puts them at 5-5. Best case is 7-5 and a trip to Detroit.
 
HailtoPitt said:
Pitt is likely to lose three in a row after UVA, which puts them at 5-5. Best case is 7-5 and a trip to Detroit.
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Unsure we are "likely" to lose to VT, as that is VERY pessimistic.

They have wins vs. bad Liberty(2-3), BC (3-3) and East Carolina (2-4) teams. They lost by 21 to Tennessee, neutral site, and did manage a win in a monsoon at UNC.

Are we anointing VT the "power".. I don't get it.. yet..
 
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I think we beat Vtech but lose to the others...8-4 would be great, although I could also see us slipping up against good 'ol Syracuse or something like that to end of 7-5. See you in Detroit.
 
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ThePanthers said:
The bowl lives and dies off the locals. They don't care about travel. They will pick the best matchup. They always have in the past.
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So you are saying:

The Sun Bowl is not interested in an extra couple hundred or thousand extra ACC school sales because Pitt brings the better matchup? El Paso locals will buy more tickets for Pitt than NC State?

Why will El Paso locals buy more tickets to watch say Pitt vs Colorado as opposed to NC State vs Colorado. Neither Pitt or NCSU moves the needle. You go with the extra few hundred in ticket sales.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Peach or Fiesta: Clemson
Orange: Louisville

Russell Athletic: Florida State

Tier 1 (Gator/Music City, Belk, Sun, Pinstripe)
Miami
Virginia Tech
North Carolina
North Carolina State

Tier 2
Detroit: Pitt
St. Pete: Notre Dame
Military: Wake Forest
Independence: GT

Pitt, pretty much has to get to 9 wins to get a Tier 1 bowl because of the "within 1 win" rule and our poor traveling history. Since that seems unlikely, our next best shot at a Tier 1 Bowl is if we go 8-4 (or possibly 7-5) and the ACC sends a third team to a NY6 bowl....which is possible. That would open up a Tier 1 spot.


As for the Coastal, it was a perfect day for Pitt. Pitt wins plus UNC and Miami losses means Pitt is 1 UNC loss away from controlling our own destiny. If UNC loses at Miami on Saturday, we could wake up Sunday knowing we are 5 straight wins away from Orlando. However impossible that may be considering it would take a run of a 3 gamr gauntlet (VT, @ Miami, @ Clemson), it would be a good feeling.

More realistically, since Pitt is almost assured of a loss at Clemson, we have to win the rest, go 6-2 and hope that UNC loses 2 of @ Miami, @ UVa, GT, @ Duke, NCSU AND VT loses 1 of @ Syr, Miami, @ Duke, GT, UVa.

If it came down to Pitt and VT, it would be the perfect example of the imbalance in ACC scheduling. They would play the same 7 teams with the 8th being VT playing BC and Pitt playing Clemson.
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You have too much time on your hands, as usual.

Talking about possible bowl scenarios with so much of the season left and so many games against other ACC teams to play is pretty much a useless endeavor.

Pitt could end up anywhere from 7-1 to 1-7 in the league. Ditto for other teams. Why not wait til mid November when the picture clears a bit?
 
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JoeScaz said:
Unsure we are "likely" to lose to VT, as that is VERY pessimistic.

The have wins vs. bad Liberty(2-3), BC (3-3) and East Carolina (2-4) teams. They lost by 21 to Tennessee, neutral site, and did manage a win in a monsoon at UNC.

Are we anointing VT the "power".. I don't get it.. yet..
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I follow Pitt, so of course I am pessimistic! VT is ranked #17 with a loss to a very good Tennessee team. I know we have had their number, but I still expect a loss there. Clemson and Miami are no brainers. 7-5 is assuming that we don't pull a Pitt against UVA, Cuse or Duke, which are all certainly possibilities.
 
HailtoPitt said:
I follow Pitt, so of course I am pessimistic! VT is ranked #17 with a loss to a very good Tennessee team. I know we have had their number, but I still expect a loss there. Clemson and Miami are no brainers. 7-5 is assuming that we don't pull a Pitt against UVA, Cuse or Duke, which are all certainly possibilities.
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-You are assuming a lot. While I wouldnt bet on Pitt after that Marshall game, I wouldnt bet against Pitt either.

-Duke had 6 turnovers against Virginia including 5 interceptions and they still outgained Virginia in total yards. Virginia, Duke, and Syracuse are not good football teams. They were predicted to suck preseason, and they are sucking now. Failing to beat these 3 teams would be very bad.

-Miami was out gained in total yards by Florida State and Georgia Tech. Miami needed 2 defensive TD's to beat Georgia Tech. North Carolina has a lot of injuries on the line. I still think Miami can fold before this season is over. They played a ridiculously easy schedule to this point including 3 high school level teams. Miami is a considerable favorite against UNC. We obviously need Miami to win the game.

-Virginia Tech looks pretty good. They have a good QB which they did not have last year. They also have the easiest schedule in the entire Coastal division. They also lost the Tennessee game because of turnovers. I also like their defense, which is improved from last year. We will have significant problems slowing down their offense unless we create turnovers.

-Two weeks ago I thought Pitt was possibly finished in the Coastal. I think the Coastal is still open for the taking. If Pitt wins the next 2 weeks we possibly control our own destiny.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
So you are saying:

The Sun Bowl is not interested in an extra couple hundred or thousand extra ACC school sales because Pitt brings the better matchup? El Paso locals will buy more tickets for Pitt than NC State?

Why will El Paso locals buy more tickets to watch say Pitt vs Colorado as opposed to NC State vs Colorado. Neither Pitt or NCSU moves the needle. You go with the extra few hundred in ticket sales.
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Because they do it every year. They may feel NC State is a better matchup. Who knows.
 
steel_curtain said:
-You are assuming a lot. While I wouldnt bet on Pitt after that Marshall game, I wouldnt bet against Pitt either.

-Duke had 6 turnovers against Virginia including 5 interceptions and they still outgained Virginia in total yards. Virginia, Duke, and Syracuse are not good football teams. They were predicted to suck preseason, and they are sucking now. Failing to beat these 3 teams would be very bad.

-Miami was out gained in total yards by Florida State and Georgia Tech. Miami needed 2 defensive TD's to beat Georgia Tech. North Carolina has a lot of injuries on the line. I still think Miami can fold before this season is over. They played a ridiculously easy schedule to this point including 3 high school level teams. Miami is a considerable favorite against UNC. We obviously need Miami to win the game.

-Virginia Tech looks pretty good. They have a good QB which they did not have last year. They also have the easiest schedule in the entire Coastal division. They also lost the Tennessee game because of turnovers. I also like their defense, which is improved from last year. We will have significant problems slowing down their offense unless we create turnovers.

-Two weeks ago I thought Pitt was possibly finished in the Coastal. I think the Coastal is still open for the taking. If Pitt wins the next 2 weeks we possibly control our own destiny.
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Wrong.
 
wbrpanther said:
You have too much time on your hands, as usual.

Talking about possible bowl scenarios with so much of the season left and so many games against other ACC teams to play is pretty much a useless endeavor.

Pitt could end up anywhere from 7-1 to 1-7 in the league. Ditto for other teams. Why not wait til mid November when the picture clears a bit?
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How is SMF any different than all the other prognosticators out there? It's just a discussion of what ifs.
 
pittdan77 said:
Opened as a pick-em. Assumed it went the other way but I guess the McCaffrey kid is hurt.
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Not to nitpick, but that pick em you see in the first column of the Vegas Insider website is meaningless. That's just what their touts think the line will be and is absolutely unbettable anywhere. You have to look under the individual casinos to see what the real number opened at.

The Wynn is always the 1st to open in Vegas and they had ND -1.5, Stratosphere opened at 2 shortly thereafter and both were immediately bet up.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Over who?
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Over who as in going to Bowls or winning 7or 8 games. I can see NC going sideways. I'll never believe in NCST. We need to beat VaTech big time. And finish off the three winnable games against UVA, Duke and Cuse. With our D 2 or 3 wins may be the number sadly. If ND gets to 7 they go ahead of every 8 win team sadly. If we beat VaTech maybe they spin downward like they have in the past. New coach though. I still say if we get same QB level next year we win 9'or 10 games. I think we can replace the line and some of the new kids will make that D much much better.
 
GREGJACOBS said:
Over who as in going to Bowls or winning 7or 8 games. I can see NC going sideways. I'll never believe in NCST. We need to beat VaTech big time. And finish off the three winnable games against UVA, Duke and Cuse. With our D 2 or 3 wins may be the number sadly. If ND gets to 7 they go ahead of every 8 win team sadly. If we beat VaTech maybe they spin downward like they have in the past. New coach though. I still say if we get same QB level next year we win 9'or 10 games. I think we can replace the line and some of the new kids will make that D much much better.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think ND can even get a Tier 1 Bowl at 6-6 by jumping 7-5 teams if there are enough Tier 2 bowls left for 7-5 teams. 7-5 Duke jumped 8-4 Pitt last year for Tier 1 so I dont see why 6-6 ND couldn't jump 7-5 Pitt.
 
One poster early on mentioned we could meet up with Ole Miss. Bad idea that QB will tear our secondary to pieces.
We need to put a strategy together so we play a team with a QB who is small, slow, has a weak arm, and doesn't see well!
SMF get on that right away!
 
Yeah all this is about as meaningless as looking Joe Lenardi's brackets for the NCAA tourney at this time. Games will go our way and against us and until about the last week of the season we'll really have no idea exactly where we'll end up. I would much prefer somewhere close by I had a blast at NAVY last year even in the cold rain but we had a great showing in the stands just need one on the field
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think ND can even get a Tier 1 Bowl at 6-6 by jumping 7-5 teams if there are enough Tier 2 bowls left for 7-5 teams. 7-5 Duke jumped 8-4 Pitt last year for Tier 1 so I dont see why 6-6 ND couldn't jump 7-5 Pitt.
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I think you're right! That's how I've understood the arrangement with ND.
 
Just one more reason to hate them. I was out there visiting my niece, an ND freshman, for the Duke game. That was beautiful. They stink.
 
We need to beat UVA first, and that won't be easy. If we don't get to 40+ points, we have little chance of winning. And we better get to 30 before halftime. This is no gimme.
 
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