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Agreed. I honestly wish I hadn't gone to Pitt. I work with a lot of people who went to places that costed a lost less. I didn't take school all that seriously anyway (got pretty good grades, but didn't exert much effort). I just wasn't mature enough at the time (still may not be). So I could have gone to CCAC or Harvard, and it wouldn't have mattered: My learning wasn't really going to begin until I began working in my field.
College really only matters for your internship and 1st job. The better schools have betters ins with employers for internships. When you graduate and are looking for that entry level job, graduates of the better schools are more likely to get the job over the glorified HS's like a WMU or WVU. However, ambitious graduates from those schools can obviously still find good jobs and become very successful. Once you are just a few years post-grad, the college you attended is basically meaningless.
 
Yea, the more intelligent you are the more likely you are to be better at math and reading. It is amazing to me that you guys don't believe that. Like there's a bunch of geniuses in rural Appalachia who score 810s on SAT's but have higher IQ's than the kids who score 1490 and go to an Ivy League school.
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I mean, I was a psychology major who was running late for Abnormal Psychology one day (first day of that class). My social anxiety was so high back then that instead of walking into class late, I dropped it and changed my major. As it turns out, I'd have never made it in psychology because of all the reading involved. I have ADHD like nothing some have ever seen before. Simply put: I can't read. I dated a girl who got her doctorate from Pitt in psychology. The amount of reading I watched her do over the six years we were together made me physically sick.

So I ended up in accounting, since I had already taken like two or three classes in it at the time. But that just goes to show how silly it all is. Obviously I wasn't treating those accounting classes very seriously when I was going to major in something completely different. Then again, I didn't treat my accounting classes very seriously afterwards either. My M.O. was usually to get an A on the midterm, stop going to class after that, and then get something respectable enough on the final so that I could still pull off a B at a minimum.
I’d have had 300 different majors if I dropped a class and changed my major rather than coming into it late 😄
 
Yea, the more intelligent you are the more likely you are to be better at math and reading. It is amazing to me that you guys don't believe that. Like there's a bunch of geniuses in rural Appalachia who score 810s on SAT's but have higher IQ's than the kids who score 1490 and go to an Ivy League school.
Read The Mismeasure of Man by Stephen Jay Gould.
 
Read The Mismeasure of Man by Stephen Jay Gould.
Or you can just have basic common sense. The average Harvard student is more intelligent than the average Slippery Rock student.

This NIH paper seems to agree that SAT is a good measure of intelligence. Not a perfect measure. But they are correlated.

 
Really? They couldn't get into the better schools. More of a "lower class" student population. I know I'll get slammed for saying that but it is what it is. Surely, you can become greatly successful by attending one of those schools as college is what you make of it. But, if we're going by averages, students at Western Michigan, WVU, Cal U, IUP, etc are less intelligent and come from less affluent family backgrounds than students at Mich, Pitt, PSU, etc. Again, ON AVERAGE. The student at WMU, WVU, IUP, etc are basically the same type of kid
Wow. Aren't we elite?
 
Oh I wasn't a stranger to being late at all. But this was the first day of class, and I was like 45 minutes late.
Ok I can see that. I likewise was no stranger to dropping classes. I dropped a calc class because, during the first and second days, the instructor demonstrated a peculiar habit where he frequently paused in his lecture, took out a handkerchief, blew his nose, and kid you not, then wiped the entire open hanky completely over his face and head, and then resumed. He did this at least 5-6 times in class on the initial day, almost like someone else might pause for a sip of water. It was honestly nauseating. But that was a core class for my major, and other sessions when it was offered were not as convenient. So I gave it another day. And he repeated the same cycle during day 2. 5 of us spontaneously rose up and stumbled out mid class (it was held in a smaller CoL classroom so it caused fair amount of ruckus), hustled directly over to Thackary, and changed classes. Judge me how you will.

There are other instructors horror stories though none quite on that bio hazard level. There was the comp sci professor from Poland who spoke not one single word of English, and I mean it, not a word. The other CS prof who wore dark glasses and a trench coat during class, and got deported mid term, leaving a woefully inadequate TA to finish teaching the term. Another prof who walked over and kicked the shin of one of the students (no, not me) because he had fallen asleep during lecture. A 100 level math instructor who taught in bare feet, though that’s a generous term, as his “teaching” consisted on wordlessly filling an entire chalkboard with formulas, for at least 40 minutes straight, finally turning to the class and gesturing at the board, basically as if to say, there y’go, good luck… and then left silently.

Probably the worst, however, was a Boolean algebra instructor who required us to buy his book for the class. Not so strange there, but in this case the “book” was a collection of loose leaf papers that he had his wife type up (with a real typewriter…this was ‘back in the day’) which he got copied at kinkos and bound together in a cheap plastic cover, which cracked immediately, so papers frequently flew out or got mangled in the backpack And he made us pay for it … $40 (this in 1985 money)… cash only … paid directly to him …RIGHT IN THE CLASSROOM, because he boasted he wasn’t willing to go through those “crooks” in the Pitt bookstore. On top of that, his wife was a terrible typist, so the ‘book’ had dozens if not hundreds of typos, including in the homework sections. Umpteen times I couldn’t figure out the homework problem, beating my head against the desk for hours, deep into the night, only to learn in the following class that the problem had typos. Ended up networking with other students, and if at least three of us couldn’t figure out a problem by like 11:00 the evening before the class, we determined it likely had a typo and gave up.

Yeah I stuck out for all THOSE classes, and finished those terms, but the hanky-panky prof was a deal breaker.
 
Or you can just have basic common sense. The average Harvard student is more intelligent than the average Slippery Rock student.

This NIH paper seems to agree that SAT is a good measure of intelligence. Not a perfect measure. But they are correlated.

Since you won't read the book, let me at least say part of what Gould was getting at: “I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.”
 
near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.”
Of course there are geniuses working in Asian sweatshops or at a Wal-Mart in Appalachia but now you are bringing up the family/socioeconomic dynamic. Its hard, but not impossible to move up the socioeconomic chain.

I'm talking pure SAT scores. Harvard students are more intelligent than Western Michigan students. I realize some of you don't believe that but I assure you its true.
 
But yes, had a couple of coworkers grew up there and were Michigan fans. Alot of guys in that area like Charles Woodson in FB, Jimmy Jackson in BB went to Michigan instead of Ohio State.
Jimmy Jackson the basketball player did go to Ohio State. Michigan had a hoopster named Ray Jackson, but I can't remember where he was from.
 
Really? They couldn't get into the better schools. More of a "lower class" student population. I know I'll get slammed for saying that but it is what it is. Surely, you can become greatly successful by attending one of those schools as college is what you make of it. But, if we're going by averages, students at Western Michigan, WVU, Cal U, IUP, etc are less intelligent and come from less affluent family backgrounds than students at Mich, Pitt, PSU, etc. Again, ON AVERAGE. The student at WMU, WVU, IUP, etc are basically the same type of kid
Just when I think you couldn't possibly be a bigger dumbass, you go and totally redeem yourself.

Kudos. Quite the badge of honor you wear.
 
Oh I wasn't a stranger to being late at all. But this was the first day of class, and I was like 45 minutes late.
I still have a reoccurring dream that I can't find my last class. It's the final class I need to graduate, and I can't find the classroom.

Not only that, but I can't find anyone to help me.

Nothing like that ever happened when I was in college, but every other once in a while, I have that stupid dream, and I wake up thinking I'm never going to graduate.
 
I still have a reoccurring dream that I can't find my last class. It's the final class I need to graduate, and I can't find the classroom.

Not only that, but I can't find anyone to help me.

Nothing like that ever happened when I was in college, but every other once in a while, I have that stupid dream, and I wake up thinking I'm never going to graduate.
I have a recurring dream that I have a Final but didn't realize I had the class the whole semester
 
I still have a reoccurring dream that I can't find my last class. It's the final class I need to graduate, and I can't find the classroom.

Not only that, but I can't find anyone to help me.

Nothing like that ever happened when I was in college, but every other once in a while, I have that stupid dream, and I wake up thinking I'm never going to graduate.

Honest to god, I have something very similar. It's like every few months.
 
Some organizations only recruit at larger campuses. So your chances are probably lower at a school like Clarion or elsewhere unless you have a specialty kind of degree. IUP has a great Safety program so they get recruited.
 
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In the case of some of the more extreme fanbases, it’s better just to ignore their antics. They get off on the outrage it causes and it just makes them amp it up further. That especially goes for coaches in their remarks as well. Narduzzi mentioning the abuse of players by WVU fans will just make them more determined to get violent, and clearly WVU’s dog crap administration gleefully condones it, or it would crack down on it. WMu appears to be exactly the same; no doubt their security didn’t lift a finger to stop what happened, and it’s unlikely WMu would issue any kind of public remorse, because they likely have no remorse for it.

Normally there would be some criticism by the media that would publicly pressure the offending school to act properly, but if anything Pittsburgh media was likely very happy that this crap was happening. Their only likely critique is that WMu‘s thug tactics didn’t badly injure any of Pitt’s players or coaches. So, as always, nothing helpful from those d- bags.

Therefore, the only impactful response would be for Pitt to refrain from further scheduling any of those programs. WMu? You are dead to us. Yeah WVU as well if there is any of that garbage next season. Hit ‘em in the pocketbook, it’s the only pain that will work. F them.
Narduzzi made a not so subtle point to ADs at Pitt. Do not schedule away games with non P5 foes.
 
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I still have a reoccurring dream that I can't find my last class. It's the final class I need to graduate, and I can't find the classroom.

Not only that, but I can't find anyone to help me.

Nothing like that ever happened when I was in college, but every other once in a while, I have that stupid dream, and I wake up thinking I'm never going to graduate.
I attended my last class and didn’t know it. Rarely did I miss class, but in my last semester I only had 1. It was a night class and I filled in for someone who couldn’t make it to work. The credit was in the bag and I needed the cash.
Saw a friend in that class who told me the news: if you were a graduating senior and happy with your grade you could mail it in.
Dropped a note in the profs mailbox and didn’t look back.
 
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Narduzzi made a not so subtle point to ADs at Pitt. Do not schedule away games with non P5 foes.
Very poor scheduling choice for a number of reasons. Look at Michigan State’s schedule. They don’t play away games at directional Michigan schools, or any school like that….
Neither should we….. Especially Western Michigan. There isn’t even proper accommodations for the team to stay in that town. They bused in from Grand Rapids an hour away. Whoever scheduled that game didn’t think it through.
 
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Very poor scheduling choice for a number of reasons. Look at Michigan State’s schedule. They don’t play away games at directional Michigan schools, or any school like that….
Neither should we….. Especially Western Michigan. There isn’t even proper accommodations for the team to stay in that town. They bused in from Grand Rapids an hour away. Whoever scheduled that game didn’t think it through.
Or maybe they did think it through and they were stupid.
I say open the season next year at Hawaii
 
Or maybe they did think it through and they were stupid.


Or maybe they did think it through and they realized that Pitt couldn't afford to pay the going rate for only home games against non-P5s like some other schools do, because our attendance isn't nearly as high as theirs and our donations aren't nearly as high as theirs.
 
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This was probably more true years ago. I think many kids are choosing these smaller schools given they are understanding that where you get your undergraduate degree from doesn't matter very much when compared to the extra debt you'll accrue. I've had a successful IT career but I don't think the fact that I went to Pitt over someplace like IUP helped me one bit given I've used almost nothing in my career from what I learned in school.
I use very very little of what I went to school for in my current job and I think it's that way for most people, the education get you in the door that's really about it in most professions
 
Yeah, just like Pittsburgh.
Actually, Pittsburgh is a good place for a vacation. The inclines, zoo, aviary, Carnegie Museum, Phipps Conservatory, Cathedral of Learning, Falling Rock, Station Square, Gateway Clipper, Kennywood, sporting events, et al.

People on vacation can find a lot to do in Pittsburgh.
 
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Yeah, just like Pittsburgh.

Actually, Pittsburgh is a good place for a vacation. The inclines, zoo, aviary, Carnegie Museum, Phipps Conservatory, Cathedral of Learning, Falling Rock, Station Square, Gateway Clipper, Kennywood, sporting events, et al.

People on vacation can find a lot to do in Pittsburgh.

Yeah, so stick that up your Kalamazoo, Stimulus Progression.
 
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