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What about the extra practices if not going to a bowl?

pierre93

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I've always thought it was a plus to get more practices in when a team is bowl eligible. So is Pitt still allowed to practice or did they forfeit that right when they declined a bowl?
 
With the hoops the teams have had to jump thru this year to run practices, both to meet local rules and regulations and to just CYA so if you had one or two kids get it, it did not take down your whole team, I don't see a ton of "leg up on next season" coming out of any of the bowl practices this year.

Specially since if you were IN a bowl, you would be distancing your team as much as possible so no one got it, passed it to 5 or 6 others and you now either have to bow out, or be all Denver Broncos and have a whole position MIA and have to beg borrow steal players from other positions to make a go of it.
 
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How do you really know that it hasn't helped some of the younger players in the past ? I've had discussions with some coaches that said it does help out. This year is totally different and am glad we chose not to play. I'm sure some of you know more than coaches do. Same old story different day.
 
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How do you really know that it hasn't helped some of the younger players in the past ? I've had discussions with some coaches that said it does help out. This year is totally different and am glad we chose not to play. I'm sure some of you know more than coaches do. Same old story different day.
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The outcome of every season for 30 years demonstrate
 
How do practices in December help a team the following September? Have you ever heard an NFL coach say that making the playoffs gives the team more practices and helps the following year? To quote the well-known expert Allen Iverson: "We talking about practice, man."

Jim Roth said that his team last year had accumulated 64 games and 385+ practices over 4 seasons. He said most teams they face in the playoffs typically get nowhere near that amount of experience and it really shows when they lose starters year to year. Those younger guys get reps against quality competition and are so much more prepared when their time comes.

Your NFL example is poor. NFL coaches and execs have fought tooth and nail against the NFLPA for off-season/pre-season practice time and have been frustrated with the lack of time they get compared to 20 years ago. There have been dozens of coaches/commentators/former players who constantly criticize the product the NFL puts out now when it comes fundamentals, i.e tackling/blocking/conditioning. Do you think Steve Young gained valuable experience when he got traded and sat the bench behind Montana while working with Bill Walsh for several seasons? They were a consistent playoff team and Steve was on shaky ground and admitted he needed to be rebuilt coming from the USFL.

Buddy Morris among others have expressed that the collegiate athlete is at a major disadvantage when it comes to physical development due to NCAA rules. When you get that extra month to practice, you get invaluable time to be with your team and focus on skill development. For the younger guys, this is huge.

The only thing I'm saying is, if you think Yellen is going to turn in Marino by practicing for the Tire Bowl, you're sadly mistaken. But, if you don't think some of these young OL will benefit from working on their skills against some future NFL defensive lineman, you just don't understand the process.
 
Normally I would say yes it hurts a little. This year it a wash. If the season had ended 11/28 and the bowl games was 12/28 then yes you would have time to have some developmental practices where you work with a lot of the younger guys who spent all year on the scout team. Those first two weeks you can almost have a mini preseason camp. This year with maybe two weeks between the end of the season and a bowl game you might have time for 2 of those practices which makes no difference.
 
Jim Roth said that his team last year had accumulated 64 games and 385+ practices over 4 seasons. He said most teams they face in the playoffs typically get nowhere near that amount of experience and it really shows when they lose starters year to year. Those younger guys get reps against quality competition and are so much more prepared when their time comes.

Your NFL example is poor. NFL coaches and execs have fought tooth and nail against the NFLPA for off-season/pre-season practice time and have been frustrated with the lack of time they get compared to 20 years ago. There have been dozens of coaches/commentators/former players who constantly criticize the product the NFL puts out now when it comes fundamentals, i.e tackling/blocking/conditioning. Do you think Steve Young gained valuable experience when he got traded and sat the bench behind Montana while working with Bill Walsh for several seasons? They were a consistent playoff team and Steve was on shaky ground and admitted he needed to be rebuilt coming from the USFL.

Buddy Morris among others have expressed that the collegiate athlete is at a major disadvantage when it comes to physical development due to NCAA rules. When you get that extra month to practice, you get invaluable time to be with your team and focus on skill development. For the younger guys, this is huge.

The only thing I'm saying is, if you think Yellen is going to turn in Marino by practicing for the Tire Bowl, you're sadly mistaken. But, if you don't think some of these young OL will benefit from working on their skills against some future NFL defensive lineman, you just don't understand the process.


and thats a bingo. any former player will tell yes it helps. the benefit is mainly the younger guys. they sometimes get up to a month of extra conditioning and prep. how anyone doesnt see this as and advantage is beyond me.

"more practice and reps dont help" um okay
why have spring ball then? why have summer camp them?

cant believe this is even a discussion on this board
 
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They really don't deserve a bowl, but if they had decided to go to one, they should not have played anybody that's not coming back next year, if you're not coming back you don't play, but, they voted not to play in one so, it don't matter
 
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Jim Roth said that his team last year had accumulated 64 games and 385+ practices over 4 seasons. He said most teams they face in the playoffs typically get nowhere near that amount of experience and it really shows when they lose starters year to year. Those younger guys get reps against quality competition and are so much more prepared when their time comes.

Your NFL example is poor. NFL coaches and execs have fought tooth and nail against the NFLPA for off-season/pre-season practice time and have been frustrated with the lack of time they get compared to 20 years ago. There have been dozens of coaches/commentators/former players who constantly criticize the product the NFL puts out now when it comes fundamentals, i.e tackling/blocking/conditioning. Do you think Steve Young gained valuable experience when he got traded and sat the bench behind Montana while working with Bill Walsh for several seasons? They were a consistent playoff team and Steve was on shaky ground and admitted he needed to be rebuilt coming from the USFL.

Buddy Morris among others have expressed that the collegiate athlete is at a major disadvantage when it comes to physical development due to NCAA rules. When you get that extra month to practice, you get invaluable time to be with your team and focus on skill development. For the younger guys, this is huge.

The only thing I'm saying is, if you think Yellen is going to turn in Marino by practicing for the Tire Bowl, you're sadly mistaken. But, if you don't think some of these young OL will benefit from working on their skills against some future NFL defensive lineman, you just don't understand the process.

And why do you think the NFLPA pushed so hard to cut down on offseason programs and practices? Because the players hated all the practice time and the wear and tear it took on their bodies. So...one can assume they felt more practice time was not necessary.
 
And why do you think the NFLPA pushed so hard to cut down on offseason programs and practices? Because the players hated all the practice time and the wear and tear it took on their bodies. So...one can assume they felt more practice time was not necessary.

The NFLPA has a good case after watching the impact rookies made this year without the traditional offseason program.
 
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And why do you think the NFLPA pushed so hard to cut down on offseason programs and practices? Because the players hated all the practice time and the wear and tear it took on their bodies. So...one can assume they felt more practice time was not necessary.


They used it as leverage for more cash. If the NFL was willing to pay more they'd be right back to where they were 20 years ago.
 
They really don't deserve a bowl, but if they had decided to go to one, they should not have played anybody that's not coming back next year, if you're not coming back you don't play, but, they voted not to play in one so, it don't matter
That’s how all bowl games, non playoffs, should be. Regardless of pandemic.
 
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