What bowl would we be in if we went 6-6?

[UPitt '89]

The answer is:



The Military Bowl.



What if we went 7-5?


The Military Bowl.



The thrilling wins against GT and VT meant nothing.


What if we went 8-4/6-2 in the Big Ten?

The Taxslayer. Why? Because the Big Ten strictly slots their bowls, no choices by the bowls.

Which is what the ACC should do.

 

[Chairman Moe]

UPitt '89, are you ok with the opponent? I, too would rather us be in a more "prominent" bowl game. But a win vs Navy would not be a disappointment whether we went 6-6, 7-5, or 8-4 in the regular season. Had we won vs the U and got the Military Bowl, then, yes, I'd be more pissed off

 

[whirlybird optio]

The answer is:



The Military Bowl.



What if we went 7-5?


The Military Bowl.



The thrilling wins against GT and VT meant nothing.


What if we went 8-4/6-2 in the Big Ten?

The Taxslayer. Why? Because the Big Ten strictly slots their bowls, no choices by the bowls.

Which is what the ACC should do.

I think at 6-6, we would have been in Shreveport or Detroit. I think the military had to take us over VT because we could not fall behind them in the order of bowls. I guess the loss to Miami really did matter, as a 9 win pitt team couldn't be passed by Duke, nc st, or lville.

 

[UPitt '89]

UPitt '89, are you ok with the opponent? I, too would rather us be in a more "prominent" bowl game. But a win vs Navy would not be a disappointment whether we went 6-6, 7-5, or 8-4 in the regular season. Had we won vs the U and got the Military Bowl, then, yes, I'd be more pissed off

The opponent isn't the problem. The perception of tier 2 even with a good record is. And playing a team in their home stadium.

Having lesser teams get more favorable locations and higher profile P5 opponents is the biggest problem.

 

[Karl Farbman]

When you really think about it, none of the games played by any team mean anything. Sports is all just a pleasant diversion from real life. So, if someone enjoyed watching Pitt win those games or the players derived some satisfaction from winning those games, then those games were as meaningful as any others.

 

[buckage]

The answer is:



The Military Bowl.



What if we went 7-5?


The Military Bowl.



The thrilling wins against GT and VT meant nothing.


What if we went 8-4/6-2 in the Big Ten?

The Taxslayer. Why? Because the Big Ten strictly slots their bowls, no choices by the bowls.

Which is what the ACC should do.

I guess we should just eliminate any P5 non-con games then. If we had Troy or MTSU instead of ND and Iowa, we have two more wins and can't get jumped.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

I guess we should just eliminate any P5 non-con games then. If we had Troy or MTSU instead of ND and Iowa, we have two more wins and can't get jumped.

If we did that we'd be as morally bankrupt as the Nitters. That's how they schedule.

 

[thebadby2]

The answer is:



The Military Bowl.



What if we went 7-5?


The Military Bowl.



The thrilling wins against GT and VT meant nothing.


What if we went 8-4/6-2 in the Big Ten?

The Taxslayer. Why? Because the Big Ten strictly slots their bowls, no choices by the bowls.

Which is what the ACC should do.

The solution to this concern is the same one for just about every other problem, real or perceived, with this program-attendance, recruiting, TV coverage,media indifference-- win more games, do it comsisrentky, and become relevant again in the landscape of college football. 8-4 is a nice start for Narduzzi, but it's certainly not enough to make many people outside of Pennsylvania take notice of Pitt football for the first time in a couple of decades. Hopefully we're on the road to that.

 

[OriginalEther]

I guess we should just eliminate any P5 non-con games then. If we had Troy or MTSU instead of ND and Iowa, we have two more wins and can't get jumped.

Beat me to it.
That's what NC State did. They play Troy, eastern Kentucky, south Alabama, and Old Dominion.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

8-4 is a nice start for Narduzzi, but it's certainly not enough to make many people outside of Pennsylvania take notice of Pitt football for the first time in a couple of decades. Hopefully we're on the road to that.

Heck, given the number of people that actually attended our late season games it wasn't enough to make anyone in Pittsburgh take notice either.

 

[724crew]

Navy is a good team. The whole problem with this game is perception which college football is totally based on. To the casual fan, Navy is not that great. If you beat them you're expected to, if you lose it looks bad. But Georgia who isn't that good, if you even play them tough it looks good. Perception is reality in college football. And Pitts reality is they got bent over big time on this one. I guess they need to win 10 games a year to get a better opponent. Hell even in the Big East we got NC State and Oregon State, ect as opponents

 

[pbrad]

The average fan does not know one tier from the next, or even if there are tiers. There are 4 teams playing in bowls that really count, I wonder if their fans are whining. We are in a bowl close to home against a very good opponent that can give defenses fits. The game will be on national TV and the commentators will be talking about the resurgence of PITT football. What part don't we like?

 

[BFo8]

Well one thing not to like is that the game is played on a Monday afternoon when most people are at work. It may be on national tv, but I'm not sure how many people will actually see it.

 

[H2P-2007]

Navy is a good team. The whole problem with this game is perception which college football is totally based on. To the casual fan, Navy is not that great. If you beat them you're expected to, if you lose it looks bad. But Georgia who isn't that good, if you even play them tough it looks good. Perception is reality in college football. And Pitts reality is they got bent over big time on this one. I guess they need to win 10 games a year to get a better opponent. Hell even in the Big East we got NC State and Oregon State, ect as opponents

Agree completely. As also stated above, the Monday afternoon game time sucks too. I don't know who is to blame, but you can't argue about the fact that we got screwed by the bowl selection.

 

[thebadby2]

Beat me to it.
That's what NC State did. They play Troy, eastern Kentucky, south Alabama, and Old Dominion.

I didn't realize NCSU football was the gold standard to which we should aspire.

 

[buckage]

I didn't realize NCSU football was the gold standard to which we should aspire.

Your point is valid, since they aren't.

That said, they got a better bowl draw than we did. Either they played the system better or have a better rep.

 

[CrazyPaco]

The answer is:

The Military Bowl

No, probably the Independence Bowl in Shreveport. The Military almost certainly would have taken VT over us. That might be true even if we went 7-5.

 

[UPitt '89]

I didn't realize NCSU football was the gold standard to which we should aspire.

Ncsu is playing in the Belk bowl against LSU

Certainly more favorable than us.

 

[Chairman Moe]

Ncsu is playing in the Belk bowl against LSU

Certainly more favorable than us.

Miss St I think; LSU is in the Texas Bowl vs Tex Tech

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Your point is valid, since they aren't.

That said, they got a better bowl draw than we did. Either they played the system better or have a better rep.

Or a massive fanbase Less than 3 hours from Charlotte to sell tickets??
Hello.

 

[buckage]

Or a massive fanbase Less than 3 hours from Charlotte to sell tickets??
Hello.

That will make that trip...we are in agreement here.

 

[OriginalEther]

I didn't realize NCSU football was the gold standard to which we should aspire.

I never said they were.
But if some one-win rule is in effect, it sure defeats the purpose of playing a legit OOC.
Nobody jumps us for a better bowl if Pitt followed their example and goes 10-2 because of it.

 

[WCSordill]

Well one thing not to like is that the game is played on a Monday afternoon when most people are at work. It may be on national tv, but I'm not sure how many people will actually see it.

How many people actually work in the week between Christmas and New Year?

 

[H2P-2007]

How many people actually work in the week between Christmas and New Year?

Most people? I know I have to.

 

[NittanySteel]

The B1G doesn't slot their bowls. The bowls get to pick, although I'm sure they seek feedback from potential teams.

While the Military Bowl isn't exactly the Rose or Cotton in terms of tradition, you guys are playing a very good Navy team. Narduzzi gets another shot at beating a ranked team. Navy's advantage of running that option offense is mitigated by the fact that you have over 3 weeks to prepare for it. Plus, I think you'll have more fans attend than if you were in FL, TN, or TX.

 

[perchance]

The B1G doesn't slot their bowls. The bowls get to pick, although I'm sure they seek feedback from potential teams.

While the Military Bowl isn't exactly the Rose or Cotton in terms of tradition, you guys are playing a very good Navy team. Narduzzi gets another shot at beating a ranked team. Navy's advantage of running that option offense is mitigated by the fact that you have over 3 weeks to prepare for it. Plus, I think you'll have more fans attend than if you were in FL, TN, or TX.

What gives you the right to come over here and be inoffensive and rational?

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

The answer is:



The Military Bowl.



What if we went 7-5?


The Military Bowl.



The thrilling wins against GT and VT meant nothing.


What if we went 8-4/6-2 in the Big Ten?

The Taxslayer. Why? Because the Big Ten strictly slots their bowls, no choices by the bowls.

Which is what the ACC should do.

No they don't.

 

[Pittx9]

Which is what the ACC should do.

Should be absolutely mandatory that that is the case. However I am pretty pleased I can now attend our bowl game.

 

[California Panther]

I think the military had to take us over VT because we could not fall behind them in the order of bowls.

VT played in Annapolis last year also, in case that was a factor

 

[thebadby2]

Your point is valid, since they aren't.

That said, they got a better bowl draw than we did. Either they played the system better or have a better rep.

It's basically a home game for them and they will fill the stadium. I don't think there's anything more to it than that. The bowl selection process (outside of the BCS or playoff games) has always given heavy favoritism to the ability of the teams to draw fans and TV viewers. It's a for-profit enterprise.

I don't think we should water down our non-con schedule at all, ever, and I don't think teams in the ACC Coastal have that luxury. Look what that did for UNC--even if they had beaten Clemson, they probably would have been shut out of the playoff due to their pathetic SOS.

 

[Jpripper88]

The average fan does not know one tier from the next, or even if there are tiers. There are 4 teams playing in bowls that really count, I wonder if their fans are whining. We are in a bowl close to home against a very good opponent that can give defenses fits. The game will be on national TV and the commentators will be talking about the resurgence of PITT football. What part don't we like?

Nah, they won't.

Solid season, but we should have beaten Miami and then we wouldn't be in this position, but this again shows that scheduling tough OOC games at this point does nothing to help us, past the ticket counter.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

I'll tell you one Bowl I would not want to be in and that is the Independence Bowl playing Tulsa (6-6).



HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[DonOtenlong]

It's basically a home game for them and they will fill the stadium. I don't think there's anything more to it than that. The bowl selection process (outside of the BCS or playoff games) has always given heavy favoritism to the ability of the teams to draw fans and TV viewers. It's a for-profit enterprise.

I don't think we should water down our non-con schedule at all, ever, and I don't think teams in the ACC Coastal have that luxury. Look what that did for UNC--even if they had beaten Clemson, they probably would have been shut out of the playoff due to their pathetic SOS.

Bowl selection biased toward geography. Pitt closest to Annap. Reasonable criteria. Enjoy the game and swallow your pride. (Not YOUR pride, I write rhetorically).