What the Delaware game did

[DC_Area_Panther]

to Pitt's Sagarin rating. Dropped from #36 to #59 nationally. Just goes to show the problems that computers have since their outputs are only as good as the data input. They cannot take into account things like coaches intentionally holding out players who are banged up.

 

[PittFamily2]

to Pitt's Sagarin rating. Dropped from #36 to #59 nationally. Just goes to show the problems that computers have since their outputs are only as good as the data input. They cannot take into account things like coaches intentionally holding out players who are banged up.

Just wait until AI starts controlling everyday activities.

That's when the real fun starts.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

They can if programed to.

 

[PittFamily2]

They can if programed to.

I was speaking with an AI guy who works for AIBrain.

He was telling me about a private/government high end AI project where the AI robots began to develop their own way of communicating with eachother.
Not with the developers eachother.

Eventually the developers shut it down temporarily because it was difficult to control what the AI robots would do next and the developers began to lose control of them. The AI techies don't call them robots but I can't think of the term he used.

Waiting for an update from the guy in a year of so.

Interesting stuff so I guess sports organizations will come up with new technology that will factor in all kinds of variables.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Just wait until AI starts controlling everyday activities.

That's when the real fun starts.

Um it already does. Your credit rating (and its secret and likely shifting formula), the ads you see, the news your phone suggests you read, and even the cell phone data that the CIA uses to decide who is or isn't a terrorist worth drone striking in Afghanistan.

Hell, the LA Police Department is partnered with Palantir to "track" gang members based on scanning social media, tattoos, cell phone records, etc.. Often it is correct of course. But bad data in or flawed AI, and suddenly someone is under police surveillance without constitutional due process rights. 60% of police departments use "predictive policing" algorithms despite limited evidence in so far about its effectiveness.

My hope is at some point that libertarians and progressives put aside their other differences and push back at how big data is undermining constitutional rights and fueling endless war.

 

[PittFamily2]

Um it already does. Your credit rating (and its secret and likely shifting formula), the ads you see, the news your phone suggests you read, and even the cell phone data that the CIA uses to decide who is or isn't a terrorist worth drone striking in Afghanistan.

Hell, the LA Police Department is partnered with Palantir to "track" gang members based on scanning social media, tattoos, cell phone records, etc.. Often it is correct of course. But bad data in or flawed AI, and suddenly someone is under police surveillance without constitutional due process rights. 60% of police departments use "predictive policing" algorithms despite limited evidence in so far about its effectiveness.

My hope is at some point that libertarians and progressives put aside their other differences and push back at how big data is undermining constitutional rights and fueling endless war.

Along those lines.

Someone else in that same company was talking to me about the collection of random data through devices like Alexa, Nest, certain laptops, cell phones, and TV's Samsungs were mentioned.
Interesting.

 

[PerchMan]

My hope is at some point that libertarians and Conservatives and progressives put aside their other differences and push back at how big data is undermining constitutional rights and fueling endless war.

FIFY. The Patriot Act was signed under Bush and the GOP are the ones typically in favor of the defense spending and growing bigger government and eroding certain civil liberties in the name of national defense. Both parties are responsible for growing government - through warfare or welfare. I'm sure I could go back in time on the posts and find a bunch of goofs complaining about Snowden and the "if you aren't breaking the law, then you have nothing to worry about....let them have your emails and Google Search history" crowd. Now that it's getting more real, all the sudden us small L libertarians aren't so whacko.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Along those lines.

Someone else in that same company was talking to me about the collection of random data through devices like Alexa, Nest, certain laptops, cell phones, and TV's Samsungs were mentioned.
Interesting.

Police departments partnering with a company like Nest is basically what every sci fi movie warned us about, and here we are.

 

[upj87]

to Pitt's Sagarin rating. Dropped from #36 to #59 nationally. Just goes to show the problems that computers have since their outputs are only as good as the data input. They cannot take into account things like coaches intentionally holding out players who are banged up.

they seem to me to be bright enough to know that a power 5 team even with "banged up" players should not be letting something called a Delaware come within 3 points of them...

 

[HopeandChangeforAntoons]

Eventually the developers shut it down temporarily because it was difficult to control what the AI robots would do next and the developers began to lose control of them. The AI techies don't call them robots but I can't think of the term he used.

T-800s

 

[franklinman]

Well its never going back, just forward to an unknown.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

they seem to me to be bright enough to know that a power 5 team even with "banged up" players should not be letting something called a Delaware come within 3 points of them...

They can if programed to.

Yes, of course. The point is/was that Sagarin's system isn't programmed to account for such things.

 

[pittdan77]

I don't think people realize how much data they create and turn over willingly. Privacy is nothing more than an illusion.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

I don't think people realize how much data they create and turn over willingly. Privacy is nothing more than an illusion.

Add to it all of the surveys that are filled out with name and address.

Likes on "The Facebook" as a friend's Mom calls it.

Credit Card purchases.

Grocery store points cards that track everything purchased.

License plate readers that track your whereabouts, and time of day you were there.

Prescription drugs paid for by an insurance card.

And so on, and so on......

 

[9nationalchampionships]

And since it does not account for important variables the rankings are just that much more meaningless. I get they have to get clicks to get advertisers to pay them but can they put a little more into it?

Yes, of course. The point is/was that Sagarin's system isn't programmed to account for such things.

 

[OriginalEther]

Sargarins main section predicts an 8 point Duke victory
Yet another program on the same page gives Pitt an 80% chance of winning
Guess we’ll find out who’s right.....