What the UT-Martin Game May Have Told Us?

[DC_Area_Panther]

Fede Federiko will be more than adequate for giving Hugley some rest.

Blake Hinson is an ACC level player.

This team is a team—they play together and may prove to be better than the sum of its individual parts.

The twins have lots of potential and should be really good in a year or two once they gain weight and strength.

With a healthy Hugley this team may be able to finish 0.500 in the ACC and with an overall winning record.

 

[Chescat]

Too early for me to guess
or predict whether they're
plus 500 in the ACC, With
that said, we'll see. The one
twin, Guillermo will help this
year. I agree with you on
Hinson and Fede.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

It's one game, against a not so great opponent (even though they are predicted to battle for their conference championship). Let's wait and see how they perform against real ACC competition and even against some other OOC opponents, starting with wvu. Then some other decent teams later in the OOC.

Yes, the defense looks dramatically improved and they do appear to have some shooters. But one game isn't enough to gauge anything right now.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

True. It is only one game. Nevertheless I believe they are and will be significantly better than last year’s team. Just my opinion, however.

 

[garrett_sherwin]

For what it’s wort BPI has the WVU game at 53/47 in favor of WVU and the Michigan game roughly 50/50

 

[Chescat]

Fede Federiko will be more than adequate for giving Hugley some rest.

Blake Hinson is an ACC level player.

This team is a team—they play together and may prove to be better than the sum of its individual parts.

The twins have lots of potential and should be really good in a year or two once they gain weight and strength.

With a healthy Hugley this team may be able to finish 0.500 in the ACC and with an overall winning record.

Yup, all true. Also Fede was
the biggest surprise IMO.
Remember the thoughts
on here last week re him
and Collier? Collier on his
best day could never do
what I saw out of Fede
tonight.

As for the twins, Gulliermo
seems to be the more ready
at the moment of the two.
He moves fluidly, gets open,
passes well, and even gets
out on the break.

Hinson certainly looked like
an ACC player tonight. I
want to see him against WVU
and other upper level talent.

It's early, but an opener like
what we saw tonight, gives
us some realistic hope.

 

[Fredact]

Yup, all true. Also Fede was
the biggest surprise IMO.
Remember the thoughts
on here last week re him
and Collier? Collier on his
best day could never do
what I saw out of Fede
tonight.

As for the twins, Gulliermo
seems to be the more ready
at the moment of the two.
He moves fluidly, gets open,
passes well, and even gets
out on the break.

Hinson certainly looked like
an ACC player tonight. I
want to see him against WVU
and other upper level talent.

It's early, but an opener like
what we saw tonight, gives
us some realistic hope.

Bill needs to stop trying to tip rebounds and just go up to get them with two hands. I’ve not seen enough of George to know if he has the same tendency.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

For what it’s wort BPI has the WVU game at 53/47 in favor of WVU and the Michigan game roughly 50/50

ESPN Analytics in "Gamecast" for future games has it nearly the same--- 53/47 in favor of West Virginia winning. It also has Michigan 50.6/49.4 for the Legends Classic game.

Sagarin's computer incorporating yesterday's results; but still heavily biased by its pre-season starting ratings sees it as West Virginia by about 2 points and Michigan by about 10 points.

Beating Tennesse-Martin by 22 vs the predicted ~17 kicked up Pitt's Sagarin rating by about 1 point over its pre-season starting number.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Federiko is exactly what I thought his JUCO stats showed. Good rebounder (rebounding translates) and adequate enough offensively to play the Backup 5. He is light years better than Collier, Amadusun, Brown, etc but that isnt saying a lot.

I am super impressed with Hinson. I know its just 1 game and 2 exhibitions but he certainly appears to be a plus-level ACC player. Hugley gives us 2 plus players. If our guards can be league-average, the team has a chance. Ideally, one of them would have to be a plus player but if we can great play out of Hugley/Hinson and the guards can be adequate, we can get to the bubble.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I thought we looked good from what I watched last night, but then I looked at the box score this morning... 11 for 41 from 3 isn't going to win you many games. Should Cummings be taking 8 3-point attempts? For that matter, should Hinson be taking 12? He did have a few that rimmed out, but I wouldn't say his 3-ball exactly has a ton of touch on it, either; there's some velocity to it.

Maybe this will change when Hugley gets back. But if you're not making them against UT Martin's perimeter defense I can't imagine it's a good idea to shoot that many in ACC competition.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

I thought we looked good from what I watched last night, but then I looked at the box score this morning... 11 for 41 from 3 isn't going to win you many games. Should Cummings be taking 8 3-point attempts? For that matter, should Hinson be taking 12? He did have a few that rimmed out, but I wouldn't say his 3-ball exactly has a ton of touch on it, either; there's some velocity to it.

Maybe this will change when Hugley gets back. But if you're not making them against UT Martin's perimeter defense I can't imagine it's a good idea to shoot that many in ACC competition.

Capel did say in his post-game that the 3-point shooting % last night wasn't good.

My take--Elliot's 3/7 and Sibande's 2/5 were the only good 3-ball percentage 40%+ shooters last night. Hinson was 4/12 which is just okay at 33% but maybe was too much volume.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Elliot's 3/7 and Sibande's 2/5 were the only good 3-ball percentage 40%+ shooters last night. Hinson was 4/12 which is just okay at 33% but maybe was too much volume.

It looks like Capel's gameplan this year is play good defense and shoot a ton. Something's gotta go in.

 

[4Mark_Marty]

I say keep playing good defense, rebound and shoot the hell out of it. We shot 9 more shots than UT Martin and made 8 more threes. That's a recipe for scoring more points than the other team. It's a numbers game. Dunks, put backs and threes.

 

[Chescat]

I thought the poor
3pt % was more due to
first game jitters than
anything else. Once the
game got going, we
seemed to settle in and
the 3pt'rs were less
rushed and more like
we might be like in the
future.

I did feel that we fired
too many of them up
there and the four guards
were looking for the 3ptr
first.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

My bet is the offense will revolve around Hugley and Hinson and when they’re trying to stop them the 3 Pt shooters will have plenty of space to get their shots off . It’s going to be a much better yr than the experts (14th/ACC ) have projected.

 

[pittchagg]

I thought we looked good from what I watched last night, but then I looked at the box score this morning... 11 for 41 from 3 isn't going to win you many games. Should Cummings be taking 8 3-point attempts? For that matter, should Hinson be taking 12? He did have a few that rimmed out, but I wouldn't say his 3-ball exactly has a ton of touch on it, either; there's some velocity to it.

Maybe this will change when Hugley gets back. But if you're not making them against UT Martin's perimeter defense I can't imagine it's a good idea to shoot that many in ACC competition.

We started like 0/8 from three. Seems like we came out a little too amped up. Ended up shooting it at about 33% the rest of the way.

More importantly, I don’t think there were more than a small handful of those 41 attempts that were bad shots, late shot clock heaves, etc. (though one was a halftime buzzer beater attempt). If we’re gonna get 40 good looks a game from three, we’ll be okay.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

We started like 0/8 from three. Seems like we came out a little too amped up. Ended up shooting it at about 33% the rest of the way.

More importantly, I don’t think there were more than a small handful of those 41 attempts that were bad shots, late shot clock heaves, etc. (though one was a halftime buzzer beater attempt). If we’re gonna get 40 good looks a game from three, we’ll be okay.

And if I take away the 0 for 8 stretches from last season, we go from 291st in the country to a solid 50th! Ha, kidding.

But seriously... I get what you're saying, but I don't know if them being good looks isn't even more of an argument for why we shouldn't shoot this many threes. If we're not making them when we're wide open against UT Martin's lousy perimeter defense, are we going to make them against teams with more length/better perimeter defense?

It sort of is what it is, I guess, because that's just how the game is played now. Tough to take too much from last night when we kicked their ass. I just worry that a lack of shooting could be our undoing. Not many guys on our team have a shot that I would consider to be smooth.

 

[Pitt79]

Federiko isn't bad, considering a post I read last week said he's about as good as Max