What's the Steelers playoff scenarios?
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That's the most basic. But even that doesn't clinch it. Need also the following:
If Chargers win ANY game:
Jets to lose to Seahawks this week, before beating Dolphins next week.
Pats to lose to Bills next week, after beating Dolphins this week.
You know the Stillers have to pass up four teams to make the playoffs, not just one, right?
Not completely true. If Steelers win out:
1. Jax and Ten play each other, so one is guaranteed to be behind the Steelers, the other wins South.
2. Dolphins play both NE and Jets. One of those 3 is guaranteed to be behind Steelers.
Because there are two WC spots still up for grabs... the Steelers have to pass only 2 of these 4: LAC, NYJ, NE, MIA. One of those latter three will be taken out by the others.
The Steelers are really really close. If they had won one more game, they’d be right there for a playoff birth.
-the steeler organization
The Steelers lost to Philly and Buffalo by 57 combined points. They’re not close
-rationale people
-the steeler organization
The Steelers lost to Philly and Buffalo by 57 combined points. They’re not close
-rationale people
Wait, so your argument is that if the Stillers are in 11th and they only pass up two teams that 9th place will be good enough to make the playoffs?
And you understand that it works both ways, right? Yeah, the Dolphins play the Pats this weekend and that means that one of them will lose. It also means that one of the teams that is already ahead of the Stillers is guaranteed to win (or I guess the game could end in a tie). And so on.
Minnesota lost to Dallas by 40. They have 11 wins by one score. They'll be the 2nd or 3rd seed in the NFC.
In the NFL, if you're in the playoffs, you're "close". This isn't CFB.
I will just see if they win out then wait till they see if they insert them in the field. I’d really rather they lose both for draft purposes.
No.. my argument is that they only need HELP to pass 2 of the 4 teams... because they are already guaranteed to pass 2 of the 4 if they win out.
1. Win out
2. Get help in passing 2 of LAC, NE, NYJ, and MIA.
Here's the full scenarios... there are 3 that involve no ties.
A.
1. MIA loses out
2. LAC loses out
3. NE loses to BUF..... OR... NYJ loses to SEA.
B.
1. MIA loses out.
2. NYJ loses to SEA.
3. NE loses to BUF.
C.
1. LAC loses out.
2. NE loses to BUF or MIA
3. NYJ loses to SEA or MIA
At this point, the "draft purposes" is a minor consideration... the Steelers will be drafting 14th thru 18th if they miss the playoffs... and 19th thru 21st if they make the playoffs and lose in 1st round.
Not a massive difference in 14th vs 21st.
Not true at all. There will be 14 teams in the playoffs. Of those 14, not more than 5 have a legitimate chance of winning the superbowl. In the AFC, only Cincy, KC, and Buffalo can win it all. In the NFC, only Philly or SF. The rest theoretically have a shot, but, they are nothing but pretenders.
There will be no playoff game with a point spread more than 10-12 points. The NFL isn't CFB... any playoff team can beat any other on a given Sunday.
I can’t disagree more. If the Steelers played the Bills, Chiefs and Bengals 30 times, they lose 25 times. That’s not close.
Close is going into the off-season with one position or at worst one unit to address. For example, the Bengals went into the off-season knowing the the offensive line was a priority. What’s the steeler priority? The Steelers have to fix every unit on the team. This doesn’t even include the coaching staff and QB question marks.
But that doesn’t mean they are close. That just means they can win a game. Big difference.
I guess a better way to put it is this.
If the Steelers win out... the only thing they control themselves... they are guaranteed no worse than 9th.
They need help to climb those 2 more spots.
No.
They would also need ONE of these things:
1. NE to lose to BUF
2. NYJ to lose to SEA
3. LAC to lose out.
According to the 538 playoff predictor if the Stillers win out and Miami loses out the Stillers still only have a 54% chance to make the playoffs.
Man, I know it’s your normal shtick Joe but I can’t believe you’re coming down on UP89 about this here. He’s pretty much on the money with all his posts on this over the last week or so and including in this thread.
Sure seemed like he explained it pretty clear and straightforward as well.
According to 538... the Steelers entered this weekend at 0.3% ..... and are now at 3.1%.
A tenfold increase! Haha.
That sounds pretty logical. Biggest obstacle is the Dolphins or Chargers losing out. Once that occurs they have a 50-50 chance because they still need the Patriots to lose one and the Jets to lose one.
Still needing 2 things to happen would normally be less than 50-50 odds but if they’re taking into account who the Pats and Jets each have left to play, then, yeah, 50-50 is reasonable.
They would need both of those, or a Tennessee loss as well, right?
If, for example, Tennessee wins two and either the Pats or the Jets win two then they are both ahead of the Stillers for the last two spots.
You have to win 3 games to get to the superbowl. The 5 teams I named above can do that. The others could win one, possibly two, but, they are as Fk_pitt mentioned, to flawed to be serious contenders.
TEN and Jax play each other. One of them will have 9 losses and one will win division. Neither team matters if Steelers win out.
No, that's not right because the Titans winning two means that Jacksonville can only win one.
I was surprised to see the NFL flex Ravens-Steelers to Sunday night instead of another game with playoff implications.
Ravens-Steelers will still have implications w/r to Bengals vs Ravens for division crown but as far as the Steelers, with the Dolphins and Chargers now playing earlier in the day, there’s a chance they’ll be eliminated before taking the field.
Ravens-Steelers will still have implications w/r to Bengals vs Ravens for division crown but as far as the Steelers, with the Dolphins and Chargers now playing earlier in the day, there’s a chance they’ll be eliminated before taking the field.
I agree, but the one thing that you don't know is that Fox and CBS are allowed to "protect" some games from being flexed, and I wonder if, for instance, they protected the Green Bay - Minnesota game from getting flexed.
And if the Chargers lose tonight, it goes up to 5-6% heading into next week’s games!
Yeah all of a sudden that’s a good game.
I was happy when the Steelers were forced out a couple weeks ago. Now they’re flexed in and I’m disappointed. I hate the Sunday night slot.
Hey, all we have to look at is last year to know anything is possible. What were the chances of the Jags taking out the Colts last year.
And then after that miraculously happened, we needed the Raiders-Chargers to not end in a tie and, of course, it came very very close to actually doing that.
And then after that miraculously happened, we needed the Raiders-Chargers to not end in a tie and, of course, it came very very close to actually doing that.
Nbc had no good options.
Fox blocked MIn/GB from being flexed.
CBS blocked NE/MIA from being flexed.
TB/Car can't be flexed because TB has already played 5 prime time games.
Of the remaining games, no others had two teams with playoff chances in them. BAL/PIT was their best option.
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