Where Narduzzi Is Not Getting It Done

[MajorMajors]

No. I don't. Two 8-5 seasons with losses in both in minor bowl games. Recruiting classes in 40's or 30's. With the senior losses, a brutal schedule and a new qb - objectively speaking, 8-5 this year may be wishful. Just MO. Don't see how there are "facts" suggesting "Duzz is getting it done." At least at this point.

Besides the freshmen recruits, Coach Duzz has brought in Nate Peterman, TE Clark, DE Hendrix, and QB Browne. Admittedly there are question marks about the latter three, but they are elite athletes that target specific problems - this is excellent coaching, over and above anything we've seen in a long long time.

IMHO, the issue of crowd size is huge and if it could be fixed then the sky's the limit for this staff and this team. If it's not fixed, I think this staff will be gone for greener pastures after maybe 2 more seasons. Then we start all over, which would not be good...

Go Pitt.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Besides the freshmen recruits, Coach Duzz has brought in Nate Peterman, TE Clark, DE Hendrix, and QB Browne. Admittedly there are question marks about the latter three, but they are elite athletes that target specific problems - this is excellent coaching, over and above anything we've seen in a long long time.

IMHO, the issue of crowd size is huge and if it could be fixed then the sky's the limit for this staff and this team. If it's not fixed, I think this staff will be gone for greener pastures after maybe 2 more seasons. Then we start all over, which would not be good...
Go Pitt.

Pitt mismanagement its Athletic Department for 30 years always in Rebuilding Mode, and really needs to find the right People to work on rebuilding Pitt into a Top 25 Football and Basketball Program together, not in separate cycles.

Nordenberg had the Vision to return Pitt Football back to Winning but it was Mediocre and Basketball did improve greatly better than ever in Pitt History, but to be Fair it was about getting into the ACC in the end.

Now that is done and Gallagher's Vision did choose Narduzzi, but needs way better Pitt Athletic Management and someone that knows the region and ACC, not the West Coast to wish to end up in Nebraska or Oregon? They were Pitt takers more than Pitt Makers!

Pederson's poison chased off the Boosters at Pitt and many dead and gone not coming back, Barnes did great at first helping to erase past Pederson's Mistakes, but Barnes Consultant's Basketball Bogus Buyouts, were not the Savvy Solution except for Stalling, and why it is good Barnes is gone, with his Dream Job, but left Pitt Dreaming again now in Basketball Free Fall?

Narduzzi is off to good start, basketball looks darker now, time for Pitt Chancellor & Athletic Leadership to step up, by finding the Right People to surround Narduzzi, and Basketball, that know the Region & ACC, not anybody else.

 

[PhPanther1]

And averaging 8 wins is well, average results. The problem is if 6-6 seasons sneak in there and there is never any uptick above the 8-9 win plateau.

I'll judge his "average" number of wins after years 5 and 6. To judge what he can do with the dogshit players that Graham and Chryst left hin to say...this is what he will average is pretty stupid. You don't build teams with lazy recruiting 2 star players then a bunch of stiffs.

 

[steel_curtain]

Besides the freshmen recruits, Coach Duzz has brought in Nate Peterman, TE Clark, DE Hendrix, and QB Browne. Admittedly there are question marks about the latter three, but they are elite athletes that target specific problems - this is excellent coaching, over and above anything we've seen in a long long time.

IMHO, the issue of crowd size is huge and if it could be fixed then the sky's the limit for this staff and this team. If it's not fixed, I think this staff will be gone for greener pastures after maybe 2 more seasons. Then we start all over, which would not be good...

Go Pitt.

-The crowd size will be fixed the day Pitt wins 10 games in a season and is ranked.

-Our Coach knows what he is doing. And he understands the schedule is a major problem caused by a total putz of an AD. Here is Pitt's 2019 schedule.

-What a good schedule. 1 good team and multiple tuneup games.

• 08/31 - Delaware
• 09/07 - Ohio
• 09/14 - at Penn State
• 09/21 - UCF

2020 schedule


-I would expect another tuneup team to be added.

• 09/05 - Richmond
• 09/26 - at Marshall
• TBA - Notre Dame

-You see, we are not going batshit crazy with the scheduling moving forward. If you want to play P5 teams, play Rutgers and Maryland yearly.

-Our Coach understands going 2-2 or worse in the non conference is a killer.

 

[SVPanther]

Is there a correlation between attendance and recruiting rankings? I'm thinking of Miami, USC, UCLA, Stanford - traditionally ranked in the upper echelon of recruiting rankings with pretty abysmal attendance. Don't know answer. Just trying to separate the relevant from irrelevant variables vis a vis recruiting.

 

[revampedpanthers]

There is no doubt in my mind Narduzzi can bring in top 25 classes. Heck, Wanny did it being hand cuffed playing in the big east. With a lot less of a budget.

Pitt has a lot more positives than negatives to sell recruits. Nards just needs to hire the right people to sell it.

Agree Wanny had a lot of good salesman on his staff and he himself was a great salesman. Add to that he had to deal with playing in the BE and kids wondering if Pitt would be in a power conference. But he also had Pitt coming off 5 pretty good years under Walt with players like fitzgerald. So the local perception of Pitt football was higher than what PN took over. DW took over a program that look like it was moving forward. PN got a program that was a national joke as far as the constant TO at HC. Like it or not PN is going to have to be here another couple of years before he can really quiet the voices saying he will leave.

 

[revampedpanthers]

An interesting discussion. Pitt, for whatever reason, perhaps for many of the reasons above, is not an easy sell. In turn, any Pitt HC realizes that fact after a year or two, maybe acheives a freak 9 or ten win season, and quickly accepts the big bucks elsewhere where the life blood for a sustained successful program - recruiting - is more attractive. Then, the cycle begins anew. If we can't consistently crack top 20 in recruiting, it appears, based on the linked article, Pitt will be mired in mediocrity with the HC position offering a stepping stone to bigger bucks at traditionally more successful programs. That is where Pitt is, unless and until, we can somehow fix the recruiting morass.

Here is how they can fix it. First hire a couple more good recruiters. DW had a lot of salesman on his staff. 2nd PN can't be seen as being interested in any other jobs, if he wants to have success here he has to realize if you flirt with leaving its going to hurt your recruiting because of the TO at HC. Next and most importantly win games. Finally its going to take a few more years before local recruits get comfortable with PN not leaving first chance he gets.

 

[MajorMajors]

Is there a correlation between attendance and recruiting rankings? I'm thinking of Miami, USC, UCLA, Stanford - traditionally ranked in the upper echelon of recruiting rankings with pretty abysmal attendance. Don't know answer. Just trying to separate the relevant from irrelevant variables vis a vis recruiting.

You're talking about teams in California and Florida - two of the very top states for recruits plus they have the weather advantage... I'm still surprised you don't recognize how well Narduzzi has done in bringing talent to Pitt.

 

[Pitt-Chains]

You're talking about teams in California and Florida - two of the very top states for recruits plus they have the weather advantage... I'm still surprised you don't recognize how well Narduzzi has done in bringing talent to Pitt.

Major, couldn't agree more.

Sv is a tool trying to outsmart himself.

Our Head Coach is doing an excellent job.

 

[SVPanther]

You're talking about teams in California and Florida - two of the very top states for recruits plus they have the weather advantage... I'm still surprised you don't recognize how well Narduzzi has done in bringing talent to Pitt.

K. Got it. Just change the weather in Pittsburgh and we'll be able to recruit. Gotya.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I'll judge his "average" number of wins after years 5 and 6. To judge what he can do with the dogshit players that Graham and Chryst left hin to say...this is what he will average is pretty stupid. You don't build teams with lazy recruiting 2 star players then a bunch of stiffs.

So Little Done From 2010-2014, Some Done From 2015-2016, But Still Some To Do 2017-2020!

Getting an Athletic Director that knows the Region and ACC and wants to stay a long time at Pitt to Rebuild Football Program with Narduzzi will be a Good Fit for Pitt too!

Pitt now knows what does work over time with Pederson & Barnes, time to adapt to Narduzzi's ways and it starts with Coach Pat building and caring about his Players, the next Pitt AD has to care about building Pitt Boosters.

 

[Nardog2]

I know that many of you have unrealistically high expectations for Pitt, but if Pitt averaged 8 wins in the regular season the rest of my life I'd be very happy.

 

[Jpripper88]

I know that many of you have unrealistically high expectations for Pitt, but if Pitt averaged 8 wins in the regular season the rest of my life I'd be very happy.

The rest of your life? Yeah, probably, but averaging 8 wins in the regular season is average. So you'd look for a coach to take the next step. Sometimes you should find that guy and average 9 or 10 wins a year for a few years. Sometimes you will whiff and average 5 or 6 wins for a handful of years. That doesn't mean you stay complacent with the 6-8 win guy. I think HCPN can be a 9 or 10 win guy, but still a lot of unknown with him and his approach to defense and adjustments and recruiting.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

K. Got it. Just change the weather in Pittsburgh and we'll be able to recruit. Gotya.

so why haven't you answered my questions about your hero's Walt poor recruiting locally?

 

[MajorMajors]

K. Got it. Just change the weather in Pittsburgh and we'll be able to recruit. Gotya.

Okay - I concede. Your logic is beyond reproach. Way, way beyond.

Go Pitt

 

[SVPanther]

Okay - I concede. Your logic is beyond reproach. Way, way beyond.

Go Pitt

Jus' funning you. Seemed apt since at time of my snarky post Pittsburgh was getting smothered in a blizzard