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Why No Competition at Camp with QB????

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If this is the best we got......WOW.

Pickett was exposed on so many levels tonight and this is just another reason why this is on Narduzzi. Yes, we have an inexperience offensive line, however Pickett is putrid on so many levels. He missed so many guys tonight. Granted, a few drops that may have (I say may have) changed the game, however he is not very good.

If this is the best we got, this is on Narduzzi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
they don't have anyone else who is even close. Beville isn't ready. Patti and george are fcs guys. thats it. Agree that at this point it is on Pn as he has had time to get a QB and hasn't.
 
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they don't have anyone else who is even close. Beville isn't ready. Patti and george are fcs guys. thats it. Agree that at this point it is on Pn as he has had time to get a QB and hasn't.

Beville may not be ready, but it looks like no one may be. When no one is ready, insert the guy with the greatest up side.
 
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they don't have anyone else who is even close. Beville isn't ready. Patti and george are fcs guys. thats it. Agree that at this point it is on Pn as he has had time to get a QB and hasn't.
And to add insult to injury, PN has never developed this position. Peterman was a transfer, so he will probably take credit for that. However, when I say it's on Narduzzi, he has had as many coordinators as he has been the HC. WTF is he doing? He can't develop these guys and that's a blueprint for DISASTER!
 
Every day I read a headline of a power 5 qb entering the transfer portal. Why not get one?
 
Auburn just came back from 15 down in the 4th quarter to win with a true Freshman QB. PITT needs to try changing QB's if the starter is not getting it done.
 
It's the same with Tino deal. The backup QBs are bad. That's why nobody could even challenge Tino....or Kenny.

Pickett and Tino were both groomed by the best QB camps and coaches at a young age, and both didn’t have a feel for the game and struggled in live action.
 
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Pickett is probably one of those guys that looks great in practice and camp scrimmages but is a deer in the headlights when the lights come on

bad QBs get coaches fired. Duzz can’t afford to be much more patient with Pick six
 
Pickett is probably one of those guys that looks great in practice and camp scrimmages but is a deer in the headlights when the lights come on

bad QBs get coaches fired. Duzz can’t afford to be much more patient with Pick six

He’s a classic example of a combine QB. Great measurables and great in shorts. Not good when you have to play at game speed.
 
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In a perfect world, Pickett would be a redshirt sophomore who has barely seen the field yet, and none of us would even realize how bad he is. Or, shoot, we might have just left him at Temple. I'm guessing that he has really small hands. A lot of the problems I see from him are typical from quarterbacks whose hands are not very big.
 
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We have no QB and the head coach is mediocre at best and should be a coordinator somewhere. And what about this great Off. Coordinator we were supposed to have? Where is he? And what happened to half time adjustments? Oh wait....we never make halftime adjustments under Narduzzi. Never mind.
 
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He’s a classic example of a combine QB. Great measurables and great in shorts. Not good when you have to play at game speed.

Pickett was getting almost no protection in the second Half. Even a mediocre line gives him a fighting chance. He didn’t have that tonight.
 
In a perfect world, Pickett would be a redshirt sophomore who has barely seen the field yet, and none of us would even realize how bad he is. Or, shoot, we might have just left him at Temple. I'm guessing that he has really small hands. A lot of the problems I see from him are typical from quarterbacks whose hands are not very big.

I don’t think it has anything to do with his hands. He has zero pocket presence. He moved into sacks a number of times.

Perhaps his inconsistency with his accuracy is related to his hands but for the most part what makes him awful is he doesn’t see the field and has no pocket presence.
 
I don’t think it has anything to do with his hands. He has zero pocket presence. He moved into sacks a number of times.

Perhaps his inconsistency with his accuracy is related to his hands but for the most part what makes him awful is he doesn’t see the field and has no pocket presence.

Some guys just can’t play well in games. They don’t have the feel for it. I’m afraid KP may be one of those guys.
 
He was bad in the first half when he had protection.

Yet somehow they scored 14 points. The offensive line is a much bigger problem than Pickett right now. I don’t think there is a QB on this roster that could win a P5 game with i how this line played tonight.
 
There are coaches like Saban who have no problem switching QBs in big games. I know we don’t have same caliber QBs but Saban knows what is at stake and he doesn’t mess around. I always feel like we just settle for whatever and are too scared to try someone else.
Dabo did the same thing at Clemmy. And Kelly at ND. And like Saban, that’s with QBS that they were winning with.

Even Narduzzi’s old boss and mentor Dantonio benched incumbent starter Andrew Maxwell for Conner Cook after one game in 2013. The result was the best 3 years of Dantonio’s tenure at MSU. And after last year’s offensive debacle, Dantonio demoted his co-OC’s to position coaching jobs and promoted his QB coach to OC.

A good coach isn’t going to sit around with the status quo and hope things get better. He’s going to take whatever action is necessary to make things better.

If you guys listened to Duzzi’s presser tonight, it was just like every other presser he’s given after a loss. “I have to look at the film”. But like every other time, he won’t make any changes or take any chances in response to the loss.
 
Some programs may be able to overcome bad QB play, but Pitt isn’t. Pickett was really bad again tonight and I don’t know if he’s capable of being good at this level.
i think his upside is bill stull type. average player with really good talent around him. But this team doesn't have that type of talent and he isn't at that level yet.
 
Some guys just can’t play well in games. They don’t have the feel for it. I’m afraid KP may be one of those guys.

The things you see now are the same things he did in HS. I said this at the end of last year. Patti and in particular beville looked far more composed in the pocket and got rid of the ball quicker doesn’t mean they’ll be better in college but they project better than picket
 
I don’t think it has anything to do with his hands. He has zero pocket presence. He moved into sacks a number of times.

Perhaps his inconsistency with his accuracy is related to his hands but for the most part what makes him awful is he doesn’t see the field and has no pocket presence.

I agree with those things, but watch him bobble the ball when he transfers it to his throwing hand when he takes a shotgun snap, and watch how much he gets underneath the deeper routes. Could be wrong, but these are typical signs of that.
 
Yet somehow they scored 14 points. The offensive line is a much bigger problem than Pickett right now. I don’t think there is a QB on this roster that could win a P5 game with i how this line played tonight.
I'm not convinced of this yet. Om both drives where they mixed pass and run, we dominated them at the LOS on both running and passing plays. He also had tons of opportunities to step up in the pocket but always broke to the right. The OL wasn't good but to say they were anywhere near as bad as the QB play is absurd.
 
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Pickett is probably one of those guys that looks great in practice and camp scrimmages but is a deer in the headlights when the lights come on

bad QBs get coaches fired. Duzz can’t afford to be much more patient with Pick six

Does he even look great in practice? There was almost no buzz about him throughout camp. Mack didn't even try for like three balls tonight; almost seemed like he was saying, "Here we go again." I get the impression that everyone on that team knows that Pickett isn't very good, and there just isn't a whole lot they can do about it.
 
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There’s absolutely no reason to not throw Beville in and let him work through the growing pains at this point. It’s not unheard of to go with a freshman qb that will likely make a lot of rookie mistakes.

If they stick with Pickett.... he could be really bad this year, he could still be really bad next year, and then Beville still might need at least half if not a full year of live game action to really be polished.

Is the best option right now really waiting possibly 3 more years to get quality qb play? It would be one thing if this was last season, but Pickett is a junior now. I just really can’t see how what Pickett gives you could give them a better chance to win games than a highly-touted freshman who just isn’t ready yet.

There are very few guys at P5 schools who could play the way Pickett just did as a junior and still keep his job. Most coaches would expect someone that seasoned to be much better if they’re gonna keep starting over a guy who almost everyone thinks has higher upside.
 
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The things you see now are the same things he did in HS. I said this at the end of last year. Patti and in particular beville looked far more composed in the pocket and got rid of the ball quicker doesn’t mean they’ll be better in college but they project better than picket

I posted some similar thoughts last year too.

The OL struggled at times but Kenny didn’t help by stepping into the collapsing pocket, struggling with the deep pass (several that were overthrown and underthrown) and he forced two really bad passes that ended up being costly INTs..

If Beville truly is the one with most promising upside then throw him in and let’s get his feet wet... or at least give him or Patti a few series during the Ohio game. Not sold on George- he
 
Good heavens, now Beville is the man. People posted the same stuff about Pickett, sunseri and Stull and......

Face it, he's the best we got. Beville looked promising in the spring game. He only looked promising not good. It was only a glorified practice, not a real game. There isn't a magic pill on the sideline to fix what ails this team.
 
Dabo did the same thing at Clemmy. And Kelly at ND. And like Saban, that’s with QBS that they were winning with.

Even Narduzzi’s old boss and mentor Dantonio benched incumbent starter Andrew Maxwell for Conner Cook after one game in 2013. The result was the best 3 years of Dantonio’s tenure at MSU. And after last year’s offensive debacle, Dantonio demoted his co-OC’s to position coaching jobs and promoted his QB coach to OC.

A good coach isn’t going to sit around with the status quo and hope things get better. He’s going to take whatever action is necessary to make things better.

If you guys listened to Duzzi’s presser tonight, it was just like every other presser he’s given after a loss. “I have to look at the film”. But like every other time, he won’t make any changes or take any chances in response to the loss.

It seems Narduzzi is allergic to changes of any type. He won't change what he says, he won't change QB's or schemes, and he never makes halftime adjustments. In every game, we see the other team make the halftime adjustments and we make none. And we lose.

Granted, right now Narduzzi has no other QB option to go to. And whose fault is that? I don't want to hear something about that freshman QB we're supposed to have. Narduzzi hasn't recruited a top tier QB....ever. But I will say that putting anyone in now will be an improvement over what we have with Pickett.
 
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I told ya'll .....Pickett will cost us AT LEAST 3 games this year. This was 1 of 3

It will be more than 3 games we lose because of Pickett, assuming he stays at QB. Especially considering we're going to lost at least 7 games total this year.
 
I'm guessing that he has really small hands. A lot of the problems I see from him are typical from quarterbacks whose hands are not very big.

Bingo. All good QBs have big hands. Explains his struggles with a wet ball. But again... we layman know this... you telling me self-proclaimed super genius Narduzzi doesn’t??
 
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