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Are we talking about Dixon not recruiting him out of high school? Because I have a difficult time holding it against him if he didn't make a go at the 348th rated player in the nation. Lots of other teams also missed that boat. Or did he have a chance to land him before he went to Arizona and opt to pass? That's a little less palatable, but we were still a damn solid program at the time; can't bat .1000.

Dixon sucked his last few years here, though. Program was trending downward fast, and his recruiting was Stallings-esque. Anybody who says we should have kept playing his game is wrong. We just should have made a better hire to replace him with.
Sorry, disagree. Dixon has been very good at TCU since he left Pitt. He is a really, really good coach, no way to dispute that.
 
Sorry, disagree. Dixon has been very good at TCU since he left Pitt. He is a really, really good coach, no way to dispute that.

Dixon 2 has equaled Dixon TCU 1 as in a bubble program. Except this year as he has a Top 4 seed type of team. People will say "but TCU sucked forever" and I will say that doesn't matter at all. He's a good coach and college basketball is ONLY a coach. If Point Park joined a P6 league and hired a good coach, they'd be in the NCAAT in 3 years.
 
Sorry, disagree. Dixon has been very good at TCU since he left Pitt. He is a really, really good coach, no way to dispute that.

His last two recruiting classes here:

2015: Rozelle Nix and Damon Wilson

2016: Justice Kithcart, Corey Manigault, Crisshawn Clark (going off memory, because 247 only lists Manigault... so maybe I missed one)

And 2014's class left a lot to desire on paper, though I will still give him credit for Cam Johnson.


The team imploded down the home stretch in that 2014-2015 season - even with Artis, Young, and Robinson - and it culminated in one of the most pathetic performances (home against George Washington in the NIT) I've ever seen under on of his teams. And the following year's team did make the tournament, but something was jut off about them. They should have done more with upperclassmen like Artis, Young, and Robinson... plus a sophomore Cam Johnson. The program was not going in the right direction.


He can be a good coach, and he could have gotten stale at Pitt. Can't both be true? Gary Patterson was, by far, the best coach in TCU history. Do you think they were missing him as they played for a national championship the other night? Sometimes you just need to make a change. Hiring Stallings doesn't make the last few years of Dixon any better, just as the Haywood/Graham debacle doesn't mean Wannstedt was Vince Lombardi.
 
His last two recruiting classes here:

2015: Rozelle Nix and Damon Wilson

2016: Justice Kithcart, Corey Manigault, Crisshawn Clark (going off memory, because 247 only lists Manigault... so maybe I missed one)

And 2014's class left a lot to desire on paper, though I will still give him credit for Cam Johnson.


The team imploded down the home stretch in that 2014-2015 season - even with Artis, Young, and Robinson - and it culminated in one of the most pathetic performances (home against George Washington in the NIT) I've ever seen under on of his teams. And the following year's team did make the tournament, but something was jut off about them. They should have done more with upperclassmen like Artis, Young, and Robinson... plus a sophomore Cam Johnson. The program was not going in the right direction.
Remembering how disappointed people are for Making the NIT in the one year in the last 4 seasons with the other being safely in the ncaat
Sure seems quaint now
 
Remembering how disappointed people are for Making the NIT in the one year in the last 4 seasons with the other being safely in the ncaat
Sure seems quaint now

Dixon didn't stick around long enough for the program to really bottom out (by his standards; I'm not suggesting it would have gotten as low as its been). I wish he would have hung on for a few more years, so people could tangibly see where the program was heading. I have no doubt we could have made a few more NITs/underwhelming tournament appearances under Dixon. Still doesn't make it the wrong decision to part ways with him (or "let him" leave on his own).
 
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Dixon didn't stick around long enough for the program to really bottom out (by his standards; I'm not suggesting it would have gotten as low as its been). I wish he would have hung on for a few more years, so people could tangibly see where the program was heading. I have no doubt we could have made a few more NITs/underwhelming tournament appearances under Dixon. Still doesn't make it the wrong decision to part ways with him (or "let him" leave on his own).
Your posts on This topic demonstrate how stupid folks here can be on this topic
 
Sorry I ruffled the feathers on one of the lifetime-contract-for-past-success Tomlin shills.

The Dixon topic is best summarized as follows

- best Pitt coach ever
- slipped in his last 5 years
- should never have had buyout reduced without a better replacement lined up
- very possibly would have slipped further had he stayed
- further slippage still would have been much better than Stallings/Capel
 
The Dixon topic is best summarized as follows

- best Pitt coach ever
- slipped in his last 5 years
- should never have had buyout reduced without a better replacement lined up
- very possibly would have slipped further had he stayed
- further slippage still would have been much better than Stallings/Capel

Don't disagree with any of that.

Would add:

Had we might a decent hire, as opposed to Stallings, we likely wouldn't still be kicking these hypotheticals around.
 
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The Dixon topic is best summarized as follows

- best Pitt coach ever
- slipped in his last 5 years
- should never have had buyout reduced without a better replacement lined up
- very possibly would have slipped further had he stayed
- further slippage still would have been much better than Stallings/Capel

To bullet #3, we can never know exactly what went down and/or exactly what was in Barnes' head, but it's hard not to think that he was fine with lowering the buyout because he knew he had Stallings lined up and that he would be a satisfactory replacement for Dixon.
 
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Ski denies everything. I know basketball and watched TJ McConnell play so I knew he was Big East material. No one else did. That was an early big W for me. I would say be was better than Tray Woodall and people would disagree with me. Ski's retort will be: "pull up a thread from 10 years ago as proof."
You forget the 4-5" growth spurt AFTER he committed to the Dukes. And your supposed claim about Woodall would have been AFTER both were in school, so it wasn't a prediction, just your opinion LONG after recruiting time.
 
To bullet #3, we can never know exactly what went down and/or exactly what was in Barnes' head, but it's hard not to think that he was fine with lowering the buyout because he knew he had Stallings lined up and that he would be a satisfactory replacement for Dixon.

I truly believe that there was a nefarious deal done to help Todd Turner and Vandy and in return, Barnes got some type of "help."
 
His last two recruiting classes here:

2015: Rozelle Nix and Damon Wilson

2016: Justice Kithcart, Corey Manigault, Crisshawn Clark (going off memory, because 247 only lists Manigault... so maybe I missed one)

And 2014's class left a lot to desire on paper, though I will still give him credit for Cam Johnson.


The team imploded down the home stretch in that 2014-2015 season - even with Artis, Young, and Robinson - and it culminated in one of the most pathetic performances (home against George Washington in the NIT) I've ever seen under on of his teams. And the following year's team did make the tournament, but something was jut off about them. They should have done more with upperclassmen like Artis, Young, and Robinson... plus a sophomore Cam Johnson. The program was not going in the right direction.


He can be a good coach, and he could have gotten stale at Pitt. Can't both be true? Gary Patterson was, by far, the best coach in TCU history. Do you think they were missing him as they played for a national championship the other night? Sometimes you just need to make a change. Hiring Stallings doesn't make the last few years of Dixon any better, just as the Haywood/Graham debacle doesn't mean Wannstedt was Vince Lombardi.
Patterson was done a few years ago. Dykes a cheap attempt. Dixon had SP messing with him for a couple years. Stallings was a mess, with Barnes working to please the OTHER Gallagher. Wonder why?
 
His last two recruiting classes here:

2015: Rozelle Nix and Damon Wilson

2016: Justice Kithcart, Corey Manigault, Crisshawn Clark (going off memory, because 247 only lists Manigault... so maybe I missed one)

And 2014's class left a lot to desire on paper, though I will still give him credit for Cam Johnson.


The team imploded down the home stretch in that 2014-2015 season - even with Artis, Young, and Robinson - and it culminated in one of the most pathetic performances (home against George Washington in the NIT) I've ever seen under on of his teams. And the following year's team did make the tournament, but something was jut off about them. They should have done more with upperclassmen like Artis, Young, and Robinson... plus a sophomore Cam Johnson. The program was not going in the right direction.


He can be a good coach, and he could have gotten stale at Pitt. Can't both be true? Gary Patterson was, by far, the best coach in TCU history. Do you think they were missing him as they played for a national championship the other night? Sometimes you just need to make a change. Hiring Stallings doesn't make the last few years of Dixon any better, just as the Haywood/Graham debacle doesn't mean Wannstedt was Vince Lombardi.
No. Great coaches don’t go stale. Maybe some down years, but always rebound.
 
Now in his 8th year in the NBA . Remember when some knuckleheads ( Jamie? ) said he was not Big East material ?
Hell , there was one particular knucklehead on this board that said the only reason he got a scholarship to Duquesne was because of Aunt Suzie (who was coaching Duquesne at the time).
 
No. Great coaches don’t go stale. Maybe some down years, but always rebound.
There was not going to be any rebound with Jamie stacking back to back recruiting classes of that caliber. These kids were not close to ACC level players.
 
There was not going to be any rebound with Jamie stacking back to back recruiting classes of that caliber. These kids were not close to ACC level players.
You mean a starter at Arizona and a lottery pick in his worst class?

Eventually you dopes will learn production is more important than recruiting rankings
 
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You mean a starter at Arizona and a lottery pick in his worst class?

Eventually you dopes will learn production is more important than recruiting rankings
Did your mom drop you and you fell on your head a couple times?? Let me spell it out for you once more. His last two classes were as follows: 2015 Nix, Wilson, Milligan. 2016 Kithcart, Manigault, Clark. Can you please explain to me which of those 6 started for Arizona and which of those 6 was a lottery pick? You need serious help if you think those two classes were going to right the ship for this program. It was sinking like a rock when Dixon was in charge. You are just lucky that your hero left when he did and you didn't have to witness him coaching those leftovers he recruited. As one on here once cleverly coined some years ago, "at the end, Dixon could not recruit a starving man to a steak dinner."
 
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Did your mom drop you and you fell on your head a couple times?? Let me spell it out for you once more. His last two classes were as follows: 2015 Nix, Wilson, Milligan. 2016 Kithcart, Manigault, Clark. Can you please explain to me which of those 6 started for Arizona and which of those 6 was a lottery pick? You need serious help if you think those two classes were going to right the ship for this program. It was sinking like a rock when Dixon was in charge. You are just lucky that your hero left when he did and you didn't have to witness him coaching those leftovers he recruited. As one on here once cleverly coined some years ago, "at the end, Dixon could not recruit a starving man to a steak dinner."

His last few years of recruiting looked a lot like one of Capel's recent classes. Barely miss on Efton Reid... yada, yada, yada... Nate Santos.
 
His last few years of recruiting looked a lot like one of Capel's recent classes. Barely miss on Efton Reid... yada, yada, yada... Nate Santos.
Good comparison. Maybe Pharma boy could go back and reference our 2007, 2008 and 2009 classes as examples for how Dixon was going to have solid years coaching here in 2016 and beyond.
 
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