Yall could learn something from SMF

[Sean Miller Fan]

I really do know college basketball, guys. I have been saying all year that this team hasnt improved. And unfortunately I was right. 4-16 last year is bettet than 6-15 this year. This has been a disappointing year. A bad year. The players have performed poorly. The coaches have added no value. Just bad all the way around.

Poni and Page actually discussed for a minute of Trey or X transferring. They said they didnt have any knowledge of that but it was odd to actually discuss this. As we know, I have been saying that for awhile. These players have quit. And part of that is on the coaches. I would be very surprised if both of those guys were back next year.

This NOT ok.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Gary2 learned from you

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

Except for when u told me Pikiell was gonna get canned this year and I said that he wasn’t and he was a good coach. He’s gonna make the tourney

 

[BFo8]

I really do know college basketball, guys. I have been saying all year that this team hasnt improved. And unfortunately I was right. 4-16 last year is bettet than 6-15 this year. This has been a disappointing year. A bad year. The players have performed poorly. The coaches have added no value. Just bad all the way around.

Poni and Page actually discussed for a minute of Trey or X transferring. They said they didnt have any knowledge of that but it was odd to actually discuss this. As we know, I have been saying that for awhile. These players have quit. And part of that is on the coaches. I would be very surprised if both of those guys were back next year.

This NOT ok.

Didn’t you also say the Big 10 was going to get 12 teams in?

 

[ERICCARTMAN]

Season ticket holders are well aware that this team has been a train wreck for sometime.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

The wheels came off. Gonna be tough to find a way to spin it into arrow up now.

 

[Gregory25]

I think X has had one foot out the door for a while now and he’s not that interested in hiding it.

 

[PittPoker]

You also wrote Jay Paterno would be a good offensive coordinator for Pitt remember?

 

[Millerton]

Didn’t you also say the Big 10 was going to get 12 teams in?

I really do know college basketball, guys. I have been saying all year that this team hasnt improved. And unfortunately I was right. 4-16 last year is bettet than 6-15 this year. This has been a disappointing year. A bad year. The players have performed poorly. The coaches have added no value. Just bad all the way around.

Poni and Page actually discussed for a minute of Trey or X transferring. They said they didnt have any knowledge of that but it was odd to actually discuss this. As we know, I have been saying that for awhile. These players have quit. And part of that is on the coaches. I would be very surprised if both of those guys were back next year.

This NOT ok.

Neither of those 2 are transferring.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

I really do know college basketball, guys. I have been saying all year that this team hasnt improved. And unfortunately I was right. 4-16 last year is bettet than 6-15 this year. This has been a disappointing year. A bad year. The players have performed poorly. The coaches have added no value. Just bad all the way around.

Poni and Page actually discussed for a minute of Trey or X transferring. They said they didnt have any knowledge of that but it was odd to actually discuss this. As we know, I have been saying that for awhile. These players have quit. And part of that is on the coaches. I would be very surprised if both of those guys were back next year.

This NOT ok.

If they are both on the team-
You stop posting forever .

wager?

 

[pierre93]

Didn’t you also say the Big 10 was going to get 12 teams in?

He's a hack next......

 

[sonofabit]

Look everyone was pleased with the three athletes brought in late during the transition year. Great athletes must be great ballers. Right? Maybe on a playground. They ARE being coached angles and court spots but aren't taking to the coaching. Name a sport. Any sport. Not hard to find athletes who never got it. Basketball IQ is not coachspeak. There are no options for the coaches right now. If a coach is permitted to run practices for Duke seven plus years I find it difficult to think that coach forgot all he learned and witnessed from a legendary coach. Players who know the game are needed. That is the most important piece of a player's skill set. It helps that he can jump out of the gym as well.

 

[DT_PITT]

I really do know college basketball, guys. I have been saying all year that this team hasnt improved. And unfortunately I was right. 4-16 last year is bettet than 6-15 this year. This has been a disappointing year. A bad year. The players have performed poorly. The coaches have added no value. Just bad all the way around.

Poni and Page actually discussed for a minute of Trey or X transferring. They said they didnt have any knowledge of that but it was odd to actually discuss this. As we know, I have been saying that for awhile. These players have quit. And part of that is on the coaches. I would be very surprised if both of those guys were back next year.

This NOT ok.

They did improve.

Then they regressed.

And try not to pull your tricep inappropriately patting yourself on the back.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

They did improve.

Then they regressed.

And try not to pull your tricep inappropriately patting yourself on the back.

with his head up his ass , it’s a closer reach

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

Look everyone was pleased with the three athletes brought in late during the transition year. Great athletes must be great ballers. Right? Maybe on a playground. They ARE being coached angles and court spots but aren't taking to the coaching. Name a sport. Any sport. Not hard to find athletes who never got it. Basketball IQ is not coachspeak. There are no options for the coaches right now. If a coach is permitted to run practices for Duke seven plus years I find it difficult to think that coach forgot all he learned and witnessed from a legendary coach. Players who know the game are needed. That is the most important piece of a player's skill set. It helps that he can jump out of the gym as well.

1. Duke wasn’t good when Capel stepped in as head coach so this isn’t a good reference. Practice as associate head coach and games are two separate skill sets see: Herrion, Tom. Not saying he won’t be good, just saying.

2. how do you know what they’re being coached to do? If they’re being coached to NOT be selfish and do the stupid shit they continually do and they still do it and we don’t have another Pg committed... well I think you can connect the dots on that one.

makes the decision to not pursue Morton even more mind boggling.

 

[Ski11585]

I would like to once again petition @Chris Peak for a pinned thread with all of SMF’s dumb predictions so we can remind him he’s wrong more than he’s right.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I would like to once again petition @Chris Peak for a pinned thread with all of SMF’s dumb predictions so we can remind him he’s wrong more than he’s right.

I'd love that

 

[CCHS82]

They did improve.

Then they regressed.

And try not to pull your tricep inappropriately patting yourself on the back.

Sorry DT.

No way to sugarcoat this. From beginning of the year until now, they have regressed as a TEAM.

From last year until this year, they have regressed IMHO as a TEAM. Not fun to watch.

Toney and Penny have been the only bright spots. Penny- a surprise for a freshman. Toney- improved from last year somewhat. Individual performances, thats the extent of it.

Teamwise- disappointing season. At the beginning of the year, we all had hoped at a minimum to see improvement over the course of the year. That is where we set the bar. A fair, realistic bar. Unfortunately, it did not materialize.

 

[whirlybird optio]

I think the following guys will be on the roster next year:

X, Trey, Toney, Horton, Champ, AKC, 3 Frosh bigs.

After that, who knows.

I don’t think the guards will transfer, not at all.

Capel knows next year is a massive year, not just for the program, but for him. I really doubt he’s gonna run off one of the guards, they just need to get better.

Brown, Murphy, Drumgoole...We’ll see.

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

Sorry DT.

No way to sugarcoat this. From beginning of the year until now, they have regressed as a TEAM.

From last year until this year, they have regressed IMHO as a TEAM. Not fun to watch.

Toney and Penny have been the only bright spots. Penny- a surprise for a freshman. Toney- improved from last year somewhat. Individual performances, thats the extent of it.

Teamwise- disappointing season. At the beginning of the year, we all had hoped at a minimum to see improvement over the course of the year. That is where we set the bar. A fair, realistic bar. Unfortunately, it did not materialize.

I think the most disappointing part is that we believed we would have a winning season, which has been a given this millennium for us. I don’t see how we win either remaining game.

I find it funny when people like Chris Dokish post that XJ being ranked at 232 is a reason to not trust rankings. Seems like his ranking is about right now.

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

I think the following guys will be on the roster next year:

X, Trey, Toney, Horton, Champ, AKC, 3 Frosh bigs.

After that, who knows.

I don’t think the guards will transfer, not at all.

Capel knows next year is a massive year, not just for the program, but for him. I really doubt he’s gonna run off one of the guards, they just need to get better.

Brown, Murphy, Drumgoole...We’ll see.

Man would it be disappointing if Drumgoole the prize of our 2019 class is gone after 1 season. He was a starter at the beginning of the year. I don’t think it would be a good idea to give up on him.

brown and Murphy should be having GA’s take extra online classes to make them graduate and give them options. Sheesh

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Pretty much a failure if only one more win than last year. Maybe they’re saving best for last.

 

[whirlybird optio]

Man would it be disappointing if Drumgoole the prize of our 2019 class is gone after 1 season. He was a starter at the beginning of the year. I don’t think it would be a good idea to give up on him.

brown and Murphy should be having GA’s take extra online classes to make them graduate and give them options. Sheesh

I agree with that, and I certainly wouldn’t be quick to run him off, but he looks genuinely awful. Uncoordinated.

 

[pittjas]

Man would it be disappointing if Drumgoole the prize of our 2019 class is gone after 1 season. He was a starter at the beginning of the year. I don’t think it would be a good idea to give up on him.

brown and Murphy should be having GA’s take extra online classes to make them graduate and give them options. Sheesh

I think Capel would love to move on from Brown but just not sure it can be done.

Doesn’t seem fair to count on Hugley or Max to be better as true freshmen, and I don’t think anyone thinks AKC will be ready to be the guy.

That leaves with JUCOs and Grad transfers and we’ve all seen how that works with bigs.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I really do know college basketball, guys.

We've played Syracuse twice now and you've gotten the game exactly backwards both times, so it's kind of interesting that you make this silly claim again.

I mean we held your pal Buddy to zero and we let Hughes get his, just like you said we should if we wanted to win. And we got bitch slapped. Mostly because we let Hughes get his, whenever he wanted.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I think the following guys will be on the roster next year:

X, Trey, Toney, Horton, Champ, AKC, 3 Frosh bigs.

There is a close to a 0% chance that all of X, Trey, Toney, and Champagnie are coming back.

 

[DT_PITT]

Sorry DT.

No way to sugarcoat this. From beginning of the year until now, they have regressed as a TEAM.

From last year until this year, they have regressed IMHO as a TEAM. Not fun to watch.

Toney and Penny have been the only bright spots. Penny- a surprise for a freshman. Toney- improved from last year somewhat. Individual performances, thats the extent of it.

Teamwise- disappointing season. At the beginning of the year, we all had hoped at a minimum to see improvement over the course of the year. That is where we set the bar. A fair, realistic bar. Unfortunately, it did not materialize.

I think they were certainly making progress up to and including the Ga Tech game. But they have fallen back mightily since then and these last five games have been bad -- with tonight being the worst.

In fact, I do generally agree that we may have looked worse today than at any point last year.

 

[levance2]

I don’t think the guards will transfer, not at all.

I think it is pretty unlikely as well, but choosing to leave XJ out of the starting lineup tonight seems more than coincidental. At some point, how many messages can you send to a kid before he starts detracting from everyone else?

I'm not necessarily saying XJ is a cancer or even a concern, but Capel can't call out the players for not caring enough and then keep playing the same guys every game every year. It should be Capel's way or the highway.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

There is a close to a 0% chance that all of X, Trey, Toney, and Champagnie are coming back.

If they are both on the team-
You stop posting forever .

wager?

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I think it is pretty unlikely as well, but choosing to leave XJ out of the starting lineup tonight seems more than coincidental.

How so? I mean if he was going to start the three players who are leaving then he had to sit someone. Was the fact that Champagnie was also left out of the starting lineup more than coincidental?

 

[HOF Coach]

I really do know college basketball, guys. I have been saying all year that this team hasnt improved. And unfortunately I was right. 4-16 last year is bettet than 6-15 this year. This has been a disappointing year. A bad year. The players have performed poorly. The coaches have added no value. Just bad all the way around.

Poni and Page actually discussed for a minute of Trey or X transferring. They said they didnt have any knowledge of that but it was odd to actually discuss this. As we know, I have been saying that for awhile. These players have quit. And part of that is on the coaches. I would be very surprised if both of those guys were back next year.

This NOT ok.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

We've played Syracuse twice now and you've gotten the game exactly backwards both times, so it's kind of interesting that you make this silly claim again.

I mean we held your pal Buddy to zero and we let Hughes get his, just like you said we should if we wanted to win. And we got bitch slapped. Mostly because we let Hughes get his, whenever he wanted.

I said we had to make him get it on volume. He was too efficient because nobody plays D except Toney.

 

[levance2]

How so? I mean if he was going to start the three players who are leaving then he had to sit someone. Was the fact that Champagnie was also left out of the starting lineup more than coincidental?

Well there had to be some semblance of positional rationality in that lineup. They started Trey over XJ. Given that XJ had started every game of his career, it seemed like an interesting choice. I mean, there's a chance he literally flipped a coin to decide who started, but he's also held XJ out of starting a half at least once so it seems like a pattern.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Well there had to be some semblance of positional rationality in that lineup. They started Trey over XJ. Given that XJ had started every game of his career, it seemed like an interesting choice. I mean, there's a chance he literally flipped a coin to decide who started, but he's also held XJ out of starting a half at least once so it seems like a pattern.

Johnson didn't start because Capel doesn't like him and he's leaving. Champagnie didnt start because they needed Toney in there for his perimeter D

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I said we had to make him get it on volume. He was too efficient because nobody plays D except Toney.

He shot better than his average on twos and worse on threes. In other words, he did pretty much what you should have expected if you decided to let him get his.

Imagine how many he would have gotten if we had one of our lesser defenders guarding him all game like you wanted.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Well there had to be some semblance of positional rationality in that lineup. They started Trey over XJ. Given that XJ had started every game of his career, it seemed like an interesting choice. I mean, there's a chance he literally flipped a coin to decide who started, but he's also held XJ out of starting a half at least once so it seems like a pattern.

But McGowens also didn't start a game earlier this year.

I mean it's possible that the starting lineup tonight was meant to send a message. I just think it's far more likely that, like you said, they had to sit one of them and they just picked Johnson.

Eeny - meany - miney - mo

 

[levance2]

But McGowens also didn't start a game earlier this year.

Yes, that's my whole point. Champagnie and Trey have not started every game of their career. It would seem like a pretty strange decision for a kid to potentially start every game of a 4-year career except for one game when he was benched for a walk-on.

I suppose you could make an argument that maybe Trey has played better recently and simply deserved the spot if it was one vs the other. Whether it was an innocent coincidence or a result of recent play, I would assume XJ received it as a message regardless.

 

[DT_PITT]

I think it is pretty unlikely as well, but choosing to leave XJ out of the starting lineup tonight seems more than coincidental. At some point, how many messages can you send to a kid before he starts detracting from everyone else?

I'm not necessarily saying XJ is a cancer or even a concern, but Capel can't call out the players for not caring enough and then keep playing the same guys every game every year. It should be Capel's way or the highway.

Do you mean leaving X out of the starting lineup instead of Trey?

I didn't read anything into it other than Anthony S. is most used to playing Xavier's spot.

 

[DT_PITT]

Well there had to be some semblance of positional rationality in that lineup. They started Trey over XJ. Given that XJ had started every game of his career, it seemed like an interesting choice. I mean, there's a chance he literally flipped a coin to decide who started, but he's also held XJ out of starting a half at least once so it seems like a pattern.

I can't say you are right or wrong but I really read nothing into that at all.

 

[levance2]

Do you mean leaving X out of the starting lineup instead of Trey?

I didn't read anything into it other than Anthony S. is most used to playing Xavier's spot.

Let me say, for the record, I have always advocated for coaches starting undeserving seniors on senior day and I’m glad he did it, especially given the final score.