Yeah, but at least he is managing the curves and speed of the Lamborghini. Foge inherited Jackie's and immediately hit the wall putting it in 3rd gear.
Your Nomination For Program on the Ropes
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I said Chryst could get there (meaning he could be considered one of the top 5 best in the game with a few BIG titles and appearances in the CFB. He could accomplish both this year. His winning % at Wisconsin is impressive and showing no signs of letting up. We will see if he is able to avoid stubbing their toe prior to the BIG Title game, they’ve been unable to accomplish that in the past. I personally believe Chryst is one of the best minds in the game, personality notwithstanding. And yes, he has the wisdom with Alvarez being right there too, which is an enormous help and works (I think) because Chryst doesn’t have a huge ego and he just simply loves the game.
I think it’s hard to gauge with Day but he has to be there for a while first, so I agree with you.. Of course we could said it is easy to win at OSU, and it is, but having consistency winning double digit games annually, with BIG titles and CFB appearances isn’t necessarily easy.
I think this is right, the only coaches presently coaching with a title (or more) are: Dabo, Saban, Jimbo, Mack Brown, and Orgeron. Right?
Don't forget the Mad Hatter. He may get there yet again at KU on the strength of that Thomas MacVittie-led offensive juggernaut they've got there.
Its PSU, they're going to go winless this year and the players will leave the program. Franklin is killing that program
Steve’s been gone from there almost 15 years. He’s not and never was the issue (at both Nebr
This is the correct answer, that Tom Osborne is no longer really involved with the program
I suspect something similar will happen to Wisconsin once Barry Alvarez completely leaves for good
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Maybe, but BA never did it dirty. The same cannot be said for Congressman Osborne.
Great call on Les.Don't forget the Mad Hatter. He may get there yet again at KU on the strength of that Thomas MacVittie-led offensive juggernaut they've got there.
Syracuse should've never fired Pasqualoni. Terrible mistake
I don’t see UT turning this around anytime soon. Athletic department now struggling financially. How can they afford to do anything but stick with Pruitt.
no QB on roster worth anything. And playing solid opponents who will only get better.
BA was at ND before Wisky and learned some tricks of the trade from Lou Holtz. BA isn't squeaky clean.
he's in the top 1% of ethical cleanliness in P5. Clean enough to drive Gary Andersen out of town because of BA's self-imposed elevated admission standards for athletes, and his distaste for the JUCOs that Andersen started to bring in.
But since he spent 3 years on Lou Holtz's staff in the 80s, he must be a cheater despite no evidence of scandal or impropriety in his 40 years in the business.
Got it.
i dont get how one can think FSU is on the ropes?
The Taggart thing wasnt working. Instead of keeping him because he is on contract (something that Pitt would certainly consider), A wealthy alum steps up and buys him out.
Then, the guy they bring in has been there for 8 games in a Covid infested season. Not 3 years. 8 games.
and some of you think the program is done. This is one of the more ridiculous things I have read here in a while and thats saying something.
FSU has donors. FSU has a commitment to football and FSU has recruits in their back yard.
On the ropes......freaking hilarious.
The Taggart thing wasnt working. Instead of keeping him because he is on contract (something that Pitt would certainly consider), A wealthy alum steps up and buys him out.
Then, the guy they bring in has been there for 8 games in a Covid infested season. Not 3 years. 8 games.
and some of you think the program is done. This is one of the more ridiculous things I have read here in a while and thats saying something.
FSU has donors. FSU has a commitment to football and FSU has recruits in their back yard.
On the ropes......freaking hilarious.
I think Pasqualoni just happened to be at the right place at the right time. They basically made the same mistake PITT did after firing DW. The replacement didn't fit.
Three national championships over 30 years (and competing for several others) equates to them being a blue blood. And I think their status as an elite program began in the mid-80s when they were regularly beating the likes of Nebraska and Oklahoma.
FSU's problem is one of geography and pedigree. The university was small until the 60s-70s (much smaller alumni base than other schools) and is in the middle of absolutely nowhere (I know as it's my hometown). It's a program that was punching above its weight for decades with great coaching/recruiting but terrible facilities. The university has grown to match the program but it still struggles to keep up.
I do think FSU will be relevant again but they need to give Norvell full support and $$$ (something they never gave Fisher) and time (something they never gave Taggart).
Their adminstration destroyed it. The wheels were falling off well before Jimbo left.
The lady that invented SPANX (ask your wife or girlfriend) is an FSU alum that paid for the Taggart buyout.
She also had a cameo in Billions doing business with Bobby Axelrod in one scene in season 4, I think.
She also had a cameo in Billions doing business with Bobby Axelrod in one scene in season 4, I think.
SIAP, but the story on ESPN about the FSU decline is worth the read.
www.espn.com
'They're in a deep, deep hole': Inside the 6-year unraveling of Florida State football
Just six years ago, Florida State was on top of the college football world, entering the playoff as an undefeated defending champ. It's gone all downhill from there, thanks to on- and off-field dysfunction.
Was just going to post this. Talk about relevant timing.........SIAP, but the story on ESPN about the FSU decline is worth the read.
'They're in a deep, deep hole': Inside the 6-year unraveling of Florida State football
Just six years ago, Florida State was on top of the college football world, entering the playoff as an undefeated defending champ. It's gone all downhill from there, thanks to on- and off-field dysfunction.
Florida St is not a football blue blood. Also, its biggest problem (from someone close to Jimbo) was that FSU is located in Tallahassee (Government interference). Gainesville is MUCH more of a blue blood. Anyone who has been to both would see it in an instant.
Jimbo tried to up the game in Tallahassee...to no avail. Correctly runs off to East TX.
Jimbo tried to up the game in Tallahassee...to no avail. Correctly runs off to East TX.
I guess much like tOSU in Cbus, it LSU in Baton Rouge
Yea,
State Government....that's a death knell.
Your buddy close to Jimbo is a blithering fool.
I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes at any program. I only know which programs and coaches have a history of scandal amd cheating, and which don’t.
How would you know who cheats and who don't if they don't get caught?
You’ve got to be kidding me. FSU had a continued period of excellence unlike anything we’ve seen in the last 50 years.
Im going to assume you‘re a really young guy,
Your a total goon who doesn't know alot that goes on behind the scenes. Madison in the winter is such a recruiting tool. Please read Under The Tarnished Dome and get an education. Those 3 years with Holtz is plenty enough to learn. Evidence? Your so naive it's pathetic.
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Ah the self-proclaimed Putt football “insider” has spoken. Why don’t you list every single one of Alvarez’s transgressions, scandals and NCAA violations for me. Tell me what’s really been going on with his program “behind the scenes” for the past 20 years.
Oh yeah that’s right-he just hasn’t been caught. But we know he’s dirty because he worked for Lou Holtz 30 years ago. And apparently Madison is cold in winter-and that’s evidence of what again? Let let me see if I can connect your dots-nobody would want to play at Wisky because it’s cold in the winter, therefore Wisky must be paying players to even be able to field a competitive team. Do I have that right?
Do you ever offer any facts to support your idiotic conclusions?
Maybe BA is the biggest cheater in the world. But there are no facts or evidence to support that conclusion, are there? Or maybe you’re the one guy with all the behind the scenes dirt on the Wisconsin football program.
I’m not inferring that the intersection of state governments in capital cities and the institutions that reside there necessarily equals “messiness” or chaos, in general.
I’m saying that IS the case with FSU and Tallahassee. I’d advise you to perform some review/research of this specific institution at the time (and the 1-2 years prior) of Jimbo’s departure. It was a mess and remains so today.
FSU won 3 National Titles from 1993-2013 and were one of the most successful programs in the country from 1977 - 2016. That is all the research I need and I saw it with my own eyes. They will be able to return to prominence under a good head coach.
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I do have great inside sources close to Pitt athletics and have been right several times and owe you nothing. At least I share some good information. What in the hell do you bring to this board besides nothing? Yeah I'm sure BA and Wisky will call the newspapers and tell them they cheated to get recruits etc. You have zero common sense and are gullible. Your pathetic
There were no facts or evidence that Jerry Sandusky was a child predator until years later it was proven.
I’m not debating any of that. However, they had a top 3 coach and let him get away because too many parties had to play the power broker route. It’s FSU’s fault, not Jimbo’s. FSU is dumb for letting him get away....along with the success he brought to the program.
First off, Florida State is more of a "blueblood" than Florida the last 50 years. I know this, Jimbo had a problem with one of the bigger boosters, and I think had marital issues (remember Columbus, I am a WV Insider, I am friends and worked with his cousins, he is from Clarksburg, I worked in Clarksburg) and I know wanted some upgrades to facilities and staff salaries.
The problem with the move. At FSU the path to the top 10 and sustenance is much easier. At A&M, despite all the resources, and they have never been shy to throw money around starting with taking Jackie Sherrill from us, but nothing has ever paid off for A&M as far as making them a national power. They have had good teams, but most years, they find themselves battling for 3rd place in the SEC West, and if the cards are right, like this year, maybe 2nd place. But an Alabama or LSU and sometimes Auburn is always there to leap over.
I think A&M screwed up by going to the SEC.
It's pretty interesting how Nebraska and A&M have struggled moving away in opposite directions from the Big 12. Which itself is in this weird rut where Texas is disdained for its Longhorn network revenue deal but Oklahoma generally just wins the conference every year anyway. Personally I miss the Big 8 and the SWC. Kept the corn teams together and the Texas teams together.
The next thing he'll tell you, Owtie, is that because you're a Pitt fan, you have never been to a WVU game, and call you a liar. That's this fool's M. O.
Bobby left Jimbo with a Blue Blood from the start of his tenure at FSU.
Yes and Sandusky was innocent until proven guilty and that was for child rape. I think we should offer Alverz the same courtesy for at worst cheating in recruiting (which everyone does, only the degree and ability to get away with it differs), before you trash his name.
