Wrong, you guys have this misconception that EVERY player is getting million dollar NIL's and that simply is not true. He is a terrible recruiter
Honest question about Narduzzi
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Most kids drafted from an ACC over the last 3 years:
Pitt: 14
Clemson: 13
UNC: 13
VT: 9
Miami: 8
FSU: 6
Wake: 5
Lousiville: 5
NC State: 4
Cuse: 4
BC: 4
GT: 4
Duke: 4
UVA: 2
I guess he can spot talent and develop them so he couldn’t be that bad? Unless you’re using another measurement?
Louisville was favored last year. While you believe it was unacceptable, the people who make a living setting lines favored Louisville. We all want to win every game.
Nobody thinks EVERY player is getting million dollar NIL deals. It's only the really good ones (that we can't recruit) that are getting paid significant cash.
I think calling him a terrible recruiter is pretty ridiculous. I think it's fair to say they could do better, or need to hire more dynamic assistant coaches, but nobody has recruited here with any chops since the Golden Panthers were disbanded.
so you actually believe that was an acceptable loss…if so, you’re in the minority of Pitt fans. Louisville was a horrible team. If Louisville was favored it was because Pitt was at its nadir during last season.
That's a helluva take considering the number of guys he's sent to the league and the fact that he has the ACC's second best winning % since he took over. If he's a terrible recruiter, he must be one helluva coach.
He is neither.. The ACC is not that strong and of those pro's. How many are on active rosters?
How many coaches that aren't named Dabo have won the ACC since Duzz has been here?
It is extremely hard to be a 9 win program, there were only 12 P5 programs in 2010s and there are only 10 from 2012 to 2022.
You're the one who's claiming what's acceptable and what isn't.
I'm simply pointing out they weren't the team favored to win, so acting like it should have been an easy win is pretty dumb.
Schedule is massively better this year. REmember, we lost the last 3 games last year and two of them were absolute massacres. The middle part of that schedule was terrible, while this year we have two games in ND and FSU that are likely losses, and a bunch of other games like Louisville, Duke, and Syracuse that are very much toss ups.
Shouldn't we have been better then, especially last year? I think the fact they went 8-4 last year with all the guys drafted is more an indictment than something to brag about.
Addison wasn't coming back even if Whipple was still OC. He think he would have come back if Kenny was still going to be his QB. At the end of the day, he got to make good bank and play with a Heisman QB he was also familiar with that in all honesty, is probably going to have a better NFL career than Pickett.
It's not a take. It's a factual statement.
A program like Cincy, MSU, and TCU can sneak into the playoff occasionally. It's an absolute lock that they have no realistic shot of winning it, and it's usually going to end in embarrassment. They simply don't have the players and can't recruit to the level to compete.
And it's always a one off. There is literally ZERO chance that it elevates their program in any meaningful way in terms of competing for top recruits or winning championships.
While I’m not advocating we get rid of Narduzzi, this argument is ridiculous. Just about every single OC and DC in the Country is looking to become a HC. If Narduzzi were to bolt, or Pitt moved on, the options for Pitt would be plentiful.
You have zero rebuttal because it's true.
Where's the boost in recruiting for those programs? Because they sure as hell aren't getting one.
Someday you might shut up and take off your clown shoes. Someday, maybe.
Get lost Nitter. Find something productive to do with your life Snerd.
Well, first of all it makes no sense, which isn't a surprise.
Second, all you want to do is bitch and moan after a loss, which is when your posting increased x10.
He certainly isn’t the best recruiter, but I don’t think you can call him a bad coach since he takes “poor” (in terms of rankings) recruiting classes and cranks out draft picks. That’s the sign of being a good coach/developer of talent.
I think a better argument is that he isn’t a great game day tactician, which IMO is different than coaching.
Pitt isn't top 25 in football revenue, athletic department revenue, attendance, or donations.
So why should we be a top 25 team "year in and year out"? If anything, Georgia Tech has a stronger argument for that considering how much more local talent they have, yet we constantly outperform them.
It seems the be a weird phenomenon here. Pitt always seems to have some high end talent but past that there’s a bigger drop off.
True, but I think it's it different thing once they jump to the league. It's once again processing everything quicker and adjusting to the speed of the game - and of course accuracy and timing. Those tight windows become a lot tighter in the NFL.
I think he did a fantastic job with Jalen Hurts, and I think Caleb Williams development has been off the charts as a passer from where he was as a true freshman.
Stupidest take I’ve read on this board in a long long time….
So you’re saying you’d rather Pitt was more like UNC, Miami, VT, FSU over the last three years?????
Each team has “out recruited” Pitt on paper but fell miserably short on the field!
Is that your idea of success? Is that your definition of great coaching and recruiting?
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I don’t think he sucks. I think he is stubborn and it’s often a detriment to the program
Unfortunately, Cincy is 2-2. Loss to Oklahoma is ok, loss to rival Miami OH is not.
Harris, given practically no money, had one losing season. Pat's already had his and this one shaping up to be his second.
not to split hairs but Walt had 2, 98 & 99.
Narduzzi is the best coach since Sherrill, the record speaks for itself with the undisputed ACC championship, and not some 4 way tie like Wanny & Walt had in a crap conference.
But I describe him as the king of the average coaches we have had since Sherrill. Both can be true, not mutually exclusive. Narduzzi is best coach since Sherril and still an average football coach
Beyond anything else, this is what I just absolutely never got about the love affair with Narduzzi and for that matter Wanny, especially when you consider how much the fanbase seemed to hate Walt and Chryst.
Wanny had the worst three year stretch this century, and then couldn't win what was essentially the American as he got slapped around by Brian Kelly despite having massively superior talent. Much like Pat there were the same complaints, a boring, archaic offense.
Pat started off well going 8-4 but mainly built around the OL and RB's recruited by the previous staff. The defense which was supposed to be his specialty was horrific at first, probably worse than it should have been given the talent playing at the time, and honestly kept an 8-4 team in 2016 from being 10-2 or better. Then those initial holdovers on offense went away and for four years it was a total poop sandwich.
Then Pat has one amazing year, built on an offense that scored and scored fast. We win the ACC. So what does he do, hires a dude that wants to limit the offense. 2021 is ok, but the schedule is tissue soft, we lose a couple really awful games and go 8-4 when we should have never gone less than 10-2, and now this year it all falls apart.
Overall, he has been mediocre, has had awful offenses, and his defenses while often good tend to get blown up at awful times. He had one really good year which at this point is a fluke.
The only reason I can figure why people like Narduzzi and Dave so much is because they are essentially both yinzers or that it is an old fanbase that likes the ground and pahnd bs, and I certainly can't figure why they get held up on such a high level compared to Walt who had to go up against historically great Miami teams and VT teams that were outstanding, not to mention syracuse and BC programs that weren't terrible at the time.
$5.7 mil. A year for a defense who gets torched by any qb with a pulse and an offense who seems capped at 2 TD max per games
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