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Looks ready to play right away. Did Franklin not offer?
Imhotep is good. Can you live anywhere in Philly and be eligible to go to school there?
Impressed with his quickness. He is a little undersized and reminds me alot oof Calijah Kancey.
It’s Jahsear Whittington for those who don’t like mystery…
According to his bio...he visited PSU three times and was offered along with Michigan, Tennessee, Mississippi, and some other P5 offers.
That's why he came to Pitt. He figured if Kancey can become such a stud at Pitt, CP can do the same with him since they are built the same and same size. He also had an opportunity to talk to Kancey, which helped his recruiting.
Pretty sure he visited with that safety who evidently is going to Penn State. My God would that have been a nice package deal. Did I also see a Georgia sticker on the back of one of their helmets? So weird how many Philly players just go wherever.
Whittington and Brewu is a really nice DT haul. Sucks that we have to recruit each of them 3-5 more times.
Whittington and Brewu is a really nice DT haul. Sucks that we have to recruit each of them 3-5 more times.
Do you have to live in the city?
I dont understand the purpose of charter schools within a school district unless its like an art school or a STEM school or something like that.
Best I can do to help answer your question
2023-2024 Admission & Enrollment Policy
Imhotep Institute Charter High School is located in Philadelphia, PA 19138
www.imhotephighschool.com
He’s been committed since before Kancey’s last year. He was playing DE this year. He was basically just containing on the end and still made a bunch of plays. I think we are getting a good one.
They offer an alternative without having to
pay private school tuition. They're especially
valuable in poor inner city areas where there's
high crime, etc. Parents who are poor, live there
and want a strong education for their children
have a choice with a charter school. Their
only other choice is a private school which
they obviously cannot afford.
Let's take a Fox Chappel as an different example.
First of all they and similar districts have parents
who value education. Their schools have great
facitlities, smaller class sizes, etc ,etc and offer
the opportunity for a strong education. IMO
a charter school is hardly needed in districts
like that. Many of those parents opt out anyway,
and can afford a private school. They have a choice
and can afford that choice. Obviously poor inner
city parents cannot afford that choice, but the
charter school gives them that choice.
Oh, your question about living in the city? Many
of them cannot live/afford anywhere else. Kinda
naive on your part to even ask a question like
that.....but once again, par for the course.
Not trying to be a debbie downer, but I've never been that impressed with him in terms of being an early contributor. He's a good player, but I think he's going to take time to truly be a difference maker.
Isn't that going to be the case with just about all d-linemen Pitt recruits, though? I can't remember too many of them who really broke out before their third season (usually after flashing in their second).
He looks like he has the frame to be a stud after a few years in a collegiate strength and conditioning program. I know that is a phrase that gets overused, but I'll take his frame over someone who is significantly overweight and making plays in high school just because he's 315 pounds.
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I don't understand why your comment about me asking if they have to live in the city. Seems like a valid question to me. I was wondering if the school was only open to City of Philadelphia residents. Can you be from the suburbs and go there.
Also, you didnt answer anything in your post. What makes Imhotep Charter different than a regular Philly public school. I dont get it. Who gets to go there? Is it only for the smarter kids? Do they teach different subjects?
My take on charter schools is that most are "illegitimate." They are basically money-making schemes where the founders get rich. I'd like to start one as a side hustle. They are essentially predators. But these are the ones not affiliated with a school district. Imhotep is part of the Philly School District so, to me, that makes them "legit." But what makes them different? I guess I dont understand this type of legitimate charter school. I only understand the illegitimate scam ones.
I mentioned in another thread the Aliquippa culture. Players migrate there to win and get exposure. How? Guardianship. Wpial did stop one or two over the years, but there are just too many aunts and uncles to track - and difficult to litigate when relationships and needs are indeed valid. Not hard to se how some schools are magnets for athletic success.
First of all, I gave you a lot of information about
charter schools. Answering your question though
about where you live....you do not have to live in
the schooll district where the charter school is
located to attend there. As for differences, you
have to apply for admission, No, all the smarter
kids don't necessarily go there. Strong educatiotnal
districts like say a Fox Chapel, those top students
are in that school district's schools, or their parents
would opt out for a private school, not a charter
school. Charter schools are a free, no tuition,
choice for parents who want their kids out of the
local school district. This is often the case in
poor areas of the inner city.
Your comment about "predators" is ridiculous.
There are some I'm sure that might be "scams"
as you mentioned. Most charter schools are
not like Imhotep. My guess is that among
their applicants, they make certain they
accept top drawer athletes. It definitely
caters to African American students, and
their coaches are able to attract athletes
among the school's applicants.
They're different than a regular public school
in that the students have to apply and be
accepted. They also have a mission statement
and tend to stress a certain academic area.
It might be theater, or music, or STEM. They
can also expell a student very easily, and
have more latitude than a regular public
school. What I DO like about them is they
offer poor families an "out" from their
neighboring public school that might be
failing. Gives them a choice that previously
only a wealthy family might have.
I'm done with this. Any more...do a little
research of a specific charter school and
you'll have a better understanding.
charter schools. Answering your question though
about where you live....you do not have to live in
the schooll district where the charter school is
located to attend there. As for differences, you
have to apply for admission, No, all the smarter
kids don't necessarily go there. Strong educatiotnal
districts like say a Fox Chapel, those top students
are in that school district's schools, or their parents
would opt out for a private school, not a charter
school. Charter schools are a free, no tuition,
choice for parents who want their kids out of the
local school district. This is often the case in
poor areas of the inner city.
Your comment about "predators" is ridiculous.
There are some I'm sure that might be "scams"
as you mentioned. Most charter schools are
not like Imhotep. My guess is that among
their applicants, they make certain they
accept top drawer athletes. It definitely
caters to African American students, and
their coaches are able to attract athletes
among the school's applicants.
They're different than a regular public school
in that the students have to apply and be
accepted. They also have a mission statement
and tend to stress a certain academic area.
It might be theater, or music, or STEM. They
can also expell a student very easily, and
have more latitude than a regular public
school. What I DO like about them is they
offer poor families an "out" from their
neighboring public school that might be
failing. Gives them a choice that previously
only a wealthy family might have.
I'm done with this. Any more...do a little
research of a specific charter school and
you'll have a better understanding.
The problem with charter schools - nationwide is there is no conclusive evidence they perform any better then the school they're chartering. The other problem is they pull money and resources from the nearby district and those resources are usually limited because of where there located.
That's why I used Fox Chapel as an example
in the above post. Wealthy districts like that,
and where I live in Philly suburbs aren't going
to lose many students to a charter school. It's
the poorer districts who have the least dollars
and resources who lose the most students.
This makes a bad situation even worse for
some of these poorer districts.
This makes me extremely confident that he will contribute pretty early.
Maybe I misunderstood. I don't think Imhotep is "run" by the Philadelphia School District. Did a little research. I thought it was a legit charter school but no, just another scam. Their CEO is literally the basketball coach, Andre Noble. Also, the fact that they have a "CEO" speaks for itself. Lots of money to be made off these kids. Their SAT scores ranked 17th lowest in Pennsylvania. But, hey, better than a regular Philly public school education, right? What a scam these schools are.
It is a charter school. Students have to apply, and
they're accepted on a "lottery" basis. Now is it a scam?
Well they do have a mission statement as do all charter
schools. They call it "African - Centered STEM education."
The questions that should be asked are....how do they get
all these top flight athletes in there? Do those athletes
go thru the same "lottery" system? Are athletes recruited
to apply? Of course I have no definite clue about that,
but my sense is they're using the charter, alternative
education process to set up within it, an athletic factory
that does have actual classroom and educational
practices. Makes ya wonder, doesn't it. LOL
Now bad as that sounds, how about schools like St. Joe's
Prep? (I'm puposely not mentioning (Pittsburgh Central Cath).
St. Joe's is a private institution, it offers an education to its
students, while on the other hand, somehow finding the
means to admit top flight football players. Is St Joe's in
reality any different from Imhotep when it comes to sports?
Would you call St. Joe's Prep a scam? Seemingly when it
comes to sports, they both have a lot in common.
I'm glad you did as I suggested a few posts back, and that
was to do a little research about a specific charter school.
You did. Good for you.
they're accepted on a "lottery" basis. Now is it a scam?
Well they do have a mission statement as do all charter
schools. They call it "African - Centered STEM education."
The questions that should be asked are....how do they get
all these top flight athletes in there? Do those athletes
go thru the same "lottery" system? Are athletes recruited
to apply? Of course I have no definite clue about that,
but my sense is they're using the charter, alternative
education process to set up within it, an athletic factory
that does have actual classroom and educational
practices. Makes ya wonder, doesn't it. LOL
Now bad as that sounds, how about schools like St. Joe's
Prep? (I'm puposely not mentioning (Pittsburgh Central Cath).
St. Joe's is a private institution, it offers an education to its
students, while on the other hand, somehow finding the
means to admit top flight football players. Is St Joe's in
reality any different from Imhotep when it comes to sports?
Would you call St. Joe's Prep a scam? Seemingly when it
comes to sports, they both have a lot in common.
I'm glad you did as I suggested a few posts back, and that
was to do a little research about a specific charter school.
You did. Good for you.
I dont call SJP a scam because no one is profiting off of it. In fact, one of the argument AGAINST sending your kids to a Catholic School is their teachers and admin make poverty wages so they arent getting the best. Not 100% sure if that holds true for SJP. But, either way, they do not have 1 or 2 or 3 people making 300K, 400K, 500K, etc. That's how charter schools operate, a lot like bowl games. They are non-profit because all the profit goes to a few people. I call it a scam because a lot of these schools exist simply as a business for the founder/owner and they, in many cases, aren't doing a better job educating. In Imhotep's case, the fact that they had the 17th lowest SAT scores in the state basically proves there was no real advantage in going there.
Can't agree with all you posted. You admitted not knowing 100%
about "The Prep" as it's called. It's a Jesuit run, Catholic institution
that is known for it's top flight education. Parents send their kids
there BECAUSE of the education. Their teachers and admin. are not
at the bottom of the talent pool because of "poverty wages." Would
you say that about Pittsburgh Central Catholic?
Now if you want to question how they get all these top flight players
that win state titles, I would agree with the question. That's why I
mentioned that it was similar to places like Imhotep. If you've been
paying attention to what I've been saying, I too question the means
these schools are using to get athletes to attend. Your comment about
St. Joe's was so far out in left field, it's laughable.
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The education at SJP or CC is not better than your rich public schools, no way. I don't know about their salaries, specifically, but at a lot of Catholic schools, their teachers are making poverty wages. Not a Catholic school, but I knew someone whose wife taught at Sewickley Academy and he said they didn't make much.
I realize not everyone is motivated by money but you have a lot of teachers at Catholic schools only teaching there because they cant get a job at a public.
Where did I say SJP was better than your "rich public
schools?" No way did I say that, or even think that.
Public school teachers do make far more in salaries
than their Catholic school counterparts. There are
Catholic schools, and there are Catholic schools. Not
all are the same. Some are high quality educational
institutions. SJP is one of those. Then of course there
are some that are not of the same quality.
I'm sure you remenber Brian O'Neil, Pitt off Tackle now
with the Vikings. He is a graduate of Salesianum H.S.
Salesianum is a Cath h.s. in Wilmington, DE which is
not all that far from Philly. It is a top quality educational
h.s. Now is it of the same quality as say, Lower Merion
or Radnor (Philly suburban districts similar to your
Fox Chapel etc districs.)? I would say no it's not, but
neither are most other public school districts.
Ok. enough on this topic. Let's give any board members
reading this a break. I'm sure you'll find another topic
and be engaged ad nauseum with someone else who
will engage with you.
Private schools are usually better. They have admissions and they do not have to admit the problem students.
Do you base education on how much the teachers make?
Philly City schools are a scam. Teachers make more and the results are pathetic. Philly also ignores school violence. SDPhila has about 20,000 reported crimes each year. Many years there are zero expulsions. Some of the schools are so bad they actually closed the school. WTH? Ever heard of a public school being closed in a high density neighborhood with thousands of students? Strawberry Mansion was built for 2000 students and they only have 140 kids in the school.
Philly ignores school crime and basically makes the good kids leave and find a charter. The city then builds a multi million dollar charter in the same neighborhood as a violent school. The public school then ends up half empty. What a waste of money.
In 1950, Philly had 2.1 million residents and 41 public high schools. At that time Philly had 0 full time school cops. Today Philly is down to 1.6 million residents, and they have over 100 public high schools. Philly now has 700 full time school cops at a cost of over $70 million a year.
The district budget was over $3.2 billion a year when Ackerman was in charge. The city spends over 200k per student k-12 and they cant even make my fries hot.
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Do you think a good young teacher is going to want a starting salary of 30k with the potential to top off at 60k or a starting salary of 45k with the chance to top off at 120k? The salaries at a school like NA are much higher than a private school.
I hope Imhotep sends their star RB to Pitt as well. He just decommitted from Georgia. He is Jabree Coleman a 4 Star RB for the 2025 class
And this is why I would say that the publics in the richer suburbs (or even the upper middle class suburbs) are better than privates. Money is a motivating factor. I'm sorry but it is. Most of the best teachers are going to go to the public schools for the salary and benefits. While I am sure the privates still have some good teachers, they are going to have a lot who cant get hired at a public school. That doesn't mean they are bad teachers as the public school hiring process can be political but all and all, public school teachers are better.
Why does Imhotep have the 17th lowest SAT scores in the state? There has to be some Philly publics out-performing them.
Imhotep's UGa RB commit decommitted. Probably going to PSU I'd presume since Franklin and Smith were stalking kids all weekend in Mechanicsburg
When I was in Maryland, the schools in the MIAA - Gilman, McDonough, St. Paul's, etc seemed to pay at the high end. Down around DC schools like Georgetown Prep, Good Counsel, etc were the same.
Much of their faculty are Ivy league graduates with advanced degrees.
If you're sending your kid to one of these type of schools, you're often shooting for them to be an Ivy league student.
I am referring to the Pittsburgh area. The salaries for public schools are available to the public. There are no private schools in the area that come anywhere close to North Allegheny.
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