I was wondering the same thing. Since I live in the Philly ares though here's my suspicion. If you attend Villanova BB games at least one- third of their supporters are Penn St fans who have adopted Villanova as their hoops team because their own BB program is pi$$ poor. They can't resist wearing their team gear to the games even though it makes them look like idiots.Those Branch Campus dummies check this board frequently.
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We'll be playing Louisville and you'll be playing the Swiss guard in your barn. You play in a polluted small pond. Nova Nation ... 200 strong!
Perhaps. All horsing around aside, they are a good program, and I have always liked Jay Wright. One of my favorite non-Pitt coaches.
Nova fans are just jealous that we moved on to a tan 9/10 Southern belle while they are stuck with their pasty 7/10 Catholic chick.
and when those girls get pregnant, they STAY pregnant.
It's humorous to me that a Nova fan has the gaul to come here and talk smack on a team that has beaten them SIX straight times. That's no fluke. PLUS, they talk junk on our lack of tournament success when they haven't won more than one ncaat game in 6 years, having been a 2 seed (2x) and 3 seed.
Neither team should be bragging about that portion of our resume in this decade.
I personally know many Nova fans who are alums and they are generally cool, so long as they aren't from NYC. I think it was nailed earlier when it was said that a large portion of their fanbase are PSU tagalongs. Those scumbags jump on the UNC or Nova bandwagons.
Neither team should be bragging about that portion of our resume in this decade.
I personally know many Nova fans who are alums and they are generally cool, so long as they aren't from NYC. I think it was nailed earlier when it was said that a large portion of their fanbase are PSU tagalongs. Those scumbags jump on the UNC or Nova bandwagons.
You've clearly identified yourself as a Pedo now, Do me a favor and look up how many times Pitt has had a highly rated class over the past 15 years? It's called coaching them up.
Villanova has proven to be overrated when it comes NCAAT the past several years. That fact cannot be debated.
I hope to see you in our bracket in a few months because that means we'll likely be playing an 7 seed in the Sweet 16 after you bow out early...again!
Villanova has proven to be overrated when it comes NCAAT the past several years. That fact cannot be debated.
I hope to see you in our bracket in a few months because that means we'll likely be playing an 7 seed in the Sweet 16 after you bow out early...again!
Wow... another fact-free post from ncaaball.
Hasn't been a single arrest of a Pitt football player in a couple years. None under Narduzzi. Hasn't been an arrest in the basketball program in the Dixon era. Criminal element? It's not 2010, ball. Wanny is gone.
Big difference between us and BC. Pitt is back to being a top tier team. Jamie is still recruiting decently. BC is a bottom dweller. Pitt never will be.
Jamie has already shown he can put together a better team with a 23rd ranked center and 36th ranked PG than Nova can put together with Blue chippers at those positions.
Now go back to your Catholic conference and hope the priest that sits at the end of your bench isn't another pedophile for the church to cover up for.
What the hell brought Nova trolls like ncaaball over to our site today anyway?
Can't find any other message boards to post on in their little conference? Villanova might be the only school in the Catholic Pedophile conference to even have a rivals message board.
Can't find any other message boards to post on in their little conference? Villanova might be the only school in the Catholic Pedophile conference to even have a rivals message board.
Stop with the pedophile garbage. You fellow Pitt fans have shown yourselves to be a truly classless lot in this thread.
And this bashing of the Big East is ridiculous. Villanova, Xavier, Providence, and Butler are all legit top 20 teams, and all are better than anyone Pitt has played to date. Georgetown, Marquette, Seton Hall, and Creighton are tough teams as well, certainly on par with the likes of the Syracuse, Georgia Tech, and Notre Dame teams that Pitt has beaten in conference. If you are unwilling to admit the Big East is a legit top flight basketball league, you either don't watch college basketball outside of Pitt games or you are just ignorant and spiteful.
Right now, the Big East has a contender for National Player of the Year in Kris Dunn, and two potential Freshman All-Americans in Henry Ellenson and Jalen Brunson. The young talent (FR/SO) at Georgetown is as good as any in the ACC outside of Duke. The conference has perhaps the most improved player in the nation in Sophomore Ben Bentil. There are key players at Seton Hall that Pitt tried to get and lost out on.
You can hope that the Big East is down out of spite, but that certainly isn't the case, and the fact is, Pitt hasn't had much success going into NY/NJ/Philly since leaving the Big East. Time will tell if the local scene will keep producing enough talent to make up for it, but those NY/NJ/Philly players built some great teams, and we haven't even sniffed that kind of success in awhile. Maybe this team will continue winning as the schedule turns and this is the year Pitt is back near the top of a conference in early March, but I can't imagine a team this poor defensively will actually be there.
Pitt-Villanova would be a very good game this year, but I'm not sure it would end favorably for Pitt. Pitt would struggle with a healthy Providence and a healthy Xavier as well. Butler went and beat the same Purdue team that easily handled Pitt at The Pete. These teams are legit top teams, and play some really good basketball.
And this bashing of the Big East is ridiculous. Villanova, Xavier, Providence, and Butler are all legit top 20 teams, and all are better than anyone Pitt has played to date. Georgetown, Marquette, Seton Hall, and Creighton are tough teams as well, certainly on par with the likes of the Syracuse, Georgia Tech, and Notre Dame teams that Pitt has beaten in conference. If you are unwilling to admit the Big East is a legit top flight basketball league, you either don't watch college basketball outside of Pitt games or you are just ignorant and spiteful.
Right now, the Big East has a contender for National Player of the Year in Kris Dunn, and two potential Freshman All-Americans in Henry Ellenson and Jalen Brunson. The young talent (FR/SO) at Georgetown is as good as any in the ACC outside of Duke. The conference has perhaps the most improved player in the nation in Sophomore Ben Bentil. There are key players at Seton Hall that Pitt tried to get and lost out on.
You can hope that the Big East is down out of spite, but that certainly isn't the case, and the fact is, Pitt hasn't had much success going into NY/NJ/Philly since leaving the Big East. Time will tell if the local scene will keep producing enough talent to make up for it, but those NY/NJ/Philly players built some great teams, and we haven't even sniffed that kind of success in awhile. Maybe this team will continue winning as the schedule turns and this is the year Pitt is back near the top of a conference in early March, but I can't imagine a team this poor defensively will actually be there.
Pitt-Villanova would be a very good game this year, but I'm not sure it would end favorably for Pitt. Pitt would struggle with a healthy Providence and a healthy Xavier as well. Butler went and beat the same Purdue team that easily handled Pitt at The Pete. These teams are legit top teams, and play some really good basketball.
We'll be playing on national TV against the Dukes of the world long after Nova BB is extinct. Enjoy playing the St Joe Hawks and the LaSalle Exploerers in your dump in front of 200 people, the Nova nation...what a joke-it can fit in a phone booth! Nova/Branch Campus dummies of State College-scum of a feather.
You're a branch campus dummy-come on fess up. Which branch campus did you attend, dummy, for the 13th grade? Nova + UPS=double trash, scum of a feather! Enjoy watching those games with the 200 Nova strong against teams no one has ever heard of in that barn/dump Nova calls a home court? Pavillion, a frickin, hayloft with bleachers.
Big east is a great basketball conference. Guess what, nova is great at basketball and doesn't care about football. Sooooo, congratulations to you I guess for having a totally irrelevant football program that has been one step above temple since Marino left.
I love how you keep calling nova and penn state scum. Two schools that are clearly better than pitt. Jealous?
Anyway.....
I love how you keep calling nova and penn state scum. Two schools that are clearly better than pitt. Jealous?
Anyway.....
I don't get the branch campus joke. Somebody has to translate it to me.
Some of the guys are cool on this board, but this Delpanther sounds like a total idiot and probably around 20 years old. He has spewed the same post the last 5 times he has posted. Anyway, I check this board sometimes and just wanted to read up since I noticed you guys were moving up in the polls and noticed that someone was saying how overrated the big east teams were. So I responded. I guess it struck a nerve when reading that. Anyway, I love where Villanova is right now, and I am very happy they didn't move up in FB. I don't believe they would have had the support. Villanova is a basketball school and I love what the Big East and Fox is doing. It will continue to only get better.
I'd really like the Pitt fan base to comment on the below:
The last 4 year recruiting classes (2009 - 2012) while Pitt was in the BE:
14 HS players
1 Juco transfer
# of players that are 4/5 stars = 12
Players from DC to NY = 10
The first 4 ACC recruiting classes for Pitt (2013-2016):
6 H.S. players
5 Juco Transfers
# of players that are 4/5 stars = 2
Players from DC to NY = 2
So your narrative that "Jamie knows how to coach up lesser talent" will actually start to be tested once the final BE type recruits like Robinson and Artis leave the program. And all those JUCO transfers tells me that Jamie just isn't attracting the kind of talent from H.S. that he used to, so he needs to plug holes with JUCOs. It's not exactly the blueprint that you see the top programs using, now is it?
What's really telling is looking at the roster today and 5-6 years ago. Back then you see a lot of Phila., Baltimore, NYC kids. Now Moon Township, Gibsonia, Beaver Falls--not exactly the hotbed of BB talent. This data has to be a little unsettling, no? But you guys seem to think you are on solid ground and that the move was a good one for you. Good luck with that.
The last 4 year recruiting classes (2009 - 2012) while Pitt was in the BE:
14 HS players
1 Juco transfer
# of players that are 4/5 stars = 12
Players from DC to NY = 10
The first 4 ACC recruiting classes for Pitt (2013-2016):
6 H.S. players
5 Juco Transfers
# of players that are 4/5 stars = 2
Players from DC to NY = 2
So your narrative that "Jamie knows how to coach up lesser talent" will actually start to be tested once the final BE type recruits like Robinson and Artis leave the program. And all those JUCO transfers tells me that Jamie just isn't attracting the kind of talent from H.S. that he used to, so he needs to plug holes with JUCOs. It's not exactly the blueprint that you see the top programs using, now is it?
What's really telling is looking at the roster today and 5-6 years ago. Back then you see a lot of Phila., Baltimore, NYC kids. Now Moon Township, Gibsonia, Beaver Falls--not exactly the hotbed of BB talent. This data has to be a little unsettling, no? But you guys seem to think you are on solid ground and that the move was a good one for you. Good luck with that.
Hey, Slappy...the best Big5 Player, ever, was from Pittsburgh. All you clowns do is prove your fans don't deserve a guy like Jay. Even if he's AFRAID to play Pitt, now that he's not forced to do so. Whisper in his ear, I'm sure you're a close friend.I'd really like the Pitt fan base to comment on the below:
The last 4 year recruiting classes (2009 - 2012) while Pitt was in the BE:
14 HS players
1 Juco transfer
# of players that are 4/5 stars = 12
Players from DC to NY = 10
The first 4 ACC recruiting classes for Pitt (2013-2016):
6 H.S. players
5 Juco Transfers
# of players that are 4/5 stars = 2
Players from DC to NY = 2
So your narrative that "Jamie knows how to coach up lesser talent" will actually start to be tested once the final BE type recruits like Robinson and Artis leave the program. And all those JUCO transfers tells me that Jamie just isn't attracting the kind of talent from H.S. that he used to, so he needs to plug holes with JUCOs. It's not exactly the blueprint that you see the top programs using, now is it?
What's really telling is looking at the roster today and 5-6 years ago. Back then you see a lot of Phila., Baltimore, NYC kids. Now Moon Township, Gibsonia, Beaver Falls--not exactly the hotbed of BB talent. This data has to be a little unsettling, no? But you guys seem to think you are on solid ground and that the move was a good one for you. Good luck with that.
If you need it explained, you're not very bright but we knew that from your earlier posts touting the strength of the diluted BE, the orphans' conference, aka power conference wannabes.
So in other words, you'd rather not respond to this telling data I provided. Got it. Your response tells me everything I need to know.
Glad to hear you prefer pulling your talent from Western PA instead of DC, Baltimore, Philly, NJ and NY. Think that is going to work out great for you guys.
I'd really like the Pitt fan base to comment on the below:
The last 4 year recruiting classes (2009 - 2012) while Pitt was in the BE:
14 HS players
1 Juco transfer
# of players that are 4/5 stars = 12
Players from DC to NY = 10
The first 4 ACC recruiting classes for Pitt (2013-2016):
6 H.S. players
5 Juco Transfers
# of players that are 4/5 stars = 2
Players from DC to NY = 2
So your narrative that "Jamie knows how to coach up lesser talent" will actually start to be tested once the final BE type recruits like Robinson and Artis leave the program. And all those JUCO transfers tells me that Jamie just isn't attracting the kind of talent from H.S. that he used to, so he needs to plug holes with JUCOs. It's not exactly the blueprint that you see the top programs using, now is it?
What's really telling is looking at the roster today and 5-6 years ago. Back then you see a lot of Phila., Baltimore, NYC kids. Now Moon Township, Gibsonia, Beaver Falls--not exactly the hotbed of BB talent. This data has to be a little unsettling, no? But you guys seem to think you are on solid ground and that the move was a good one for you. Good luck with that.
1) Why Does Villanova care?
2) As far as I can tell, Pitt is ranked and has a better record than Villanova.
3) Jamel Artis and Mike Young have never played in the Big East Conference. They have played in the ACC Conference.
4) I really like Pitt's recruiting class next year.
1) Why Does Villanova care?
2) As far as I can tell, Pitt is ranked and has a better record than Villanova.
3) Jamel Artis and Mike Young have never played in the Big East Conference. They have played in the ACC Conference.
4) I really like Pitt's recruiting class next year.
-That's great. But that still doesnt answer
1) Why does Villanova care?
and
2) Reading the posts in this thread I thought Pitt basketball would be at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. 14-1 Record. And Pitt has the majority of its entire team coming back next year. Thanks.
Im not on Villanova's message board and I dont give a rats ass about Villanova. Now Im being clear because I couldnt give a shit about Villanova.
I hope that is clear.
I'll at least answer your questions, even though no Pitt fan will dare respond to what I asked:
1). You guys were talking smack about how the BE didn't deserve the rankings they earned. Also because we (used to) share the same recruiting areas. The fact that Pitt now no longer comes in to play G'town, SHU, Nova and SJU is terrific. One less school to compete against for the best players from the most fertile area for HS talent in the country. Don't worry you guys can have all the Beaver Falls and Gibsonia, Altoona and Monroeville players you want. We'll stick with Philly, D.C. Balt and NY metro.
2). Really? What a joke. Find Pitt in the polls and the move your eyes much further North to find us. We're ahead of you in the polls and in RPI. If we had played Duquesne and Cornell and you guys had played #2 Oklahoma and @ UVA, I'm pretty sure we'd be undefeated and you'd have 3 losses instead of 1.
3). They never played in the BE but they were recruited while Pitt was a member of the BE. Jamie undoubtedly had them out for games and made visits when Pitt came to town to play other BE schools. Look at your last 3 recruiting classes. NOT A SINGLE recruit from that DC to NY corridor since Pitt started playing games in the ACC. NOT ONE. Coincidence? That should be very troubling if you're a Pitt fan. No wonder Jamie is begging Nova for a game. It would only help you; doesn't help us even a little, because you guys no longer move the needle.
4). Looks great. You're pulling in a 6'8" kid ranked 23rd at his position, while we're bringing in a comparable 6'9" kid ranked 4th at his. Your new PG is the 36th ranked PG coming out of HS; the one we brought in last year was the top HS PG in the nation. Sounds about even.
1) The current Big East is a midmajor league. Teams in and from that conference do not win National Titles until proven otherwise. Not winning a single National Title in 30 years makes you a midmajor. Villanova plays in a midmajor conference.
2) I thought I clearly said I dont give a shit about Villanova basketball. I clearly stated Pitt is ranked, has a 14-1 record, and returns the majority of the team next year. All facts.
3) Why would I care where a recruit is from? Villanova hasn't made a single Sweet 16 appearance since 2009. Perhaps Villanova should recruit other parts of the country instead of NY through DC. If you have not noticed, Pitt is offensive dominant now. We don't even play the same as we used to. We are recruiting different players for a different style in a different league, the best league in college basketball.
4) As far as I can tell Corey Manigualt and Justice Kithcart are getting rave reviews from everyone this year, including NBA draft.net where the recent article published days ago stated Kithcart was the most underrated player in the entire country and the recent scout article days ago said Manigualt has taken his game to a whole new level. I would be cautious here. Because both of these players are playing powerhouse schedules in high school this year, have beaten powerhouse high school teams this year, and have posted monster stats this year in doing so. That gives me clear supporting evidence we have two very good players coming in. The fact NBAdraft.net is publishing articles about Pitt's players cements that fact into the ground.
Talking stupid now with the midmajor talk. You are the only one on this board that thinks Big East is a midmajor. When does a midmajor have 3 teams in the top 12, and the #1 and #2 RPI teams in mid-january, and the 2nd rated conference RPI?
I'll take Painter, Paschal, and Spellman to join the likes of Hart, Booth, Brunson, Bridges, Jenkins, and the list goes on and on... Another top 10 team next year and for the foreseeable future for Nova.
I'll take Painter, Paschal, and Spellman to join the likes of Hart, Booth, Brunson, Bridges, Jenkins, and the list goes on and on... Another top 10 team next year and for the foreseeable future for Nova.
-Villanova got ran out of the gym by Virginia and Oklahoma. Miami blew Butler right out of the gym. Indiana blew Creighton right out of the gym. Iowa annihilated Marquette on Marquette's home floor. Im not sure who I am supposed to even consider tough in the Big East. Xavier did beat Wake Forest. Congrats on winning games against Midmajor teams this year.
Virginia, Villanova tied with 5 minutes left at Virginia. Really smoked.
Georgia Tech beat Virginia. Villanova smoked Georgia Tech.
Butler beat Purdue. Purdue beat Pitt. Enough said.
All you have to look at is the Big East #2 RPI. That takes care of all the BS you just put in your post. Enough said!
Georgia Tech beat Virginia. Villanova smoked Georgia Tech.
Butler beat Purdue. Purdue beat Pitt. Enough said.
All you have to look at is the Big East #2 RPI. That takes care of all the BS you just put in your post. Enough said!
If Beating Purdue by 6 points is smoking, ok. After further consideration Purdue does not look nearly as good as earlier in the season. Illinois beat them by 14. Pitt has 1 loss and is undefeated in the ACC. Im content with the way things are.
Two things are equally true.
1. The Big East is nowhere near being a mid-major conference.
2. The ACC isn't close to being the best conference.
Mid-majors don't have multiple top ten teams, a national player of the year candidate, multiple freshmen All-American candidates, and a top 3 conference RPI.
The ACC got abused by the Big Ten in the challenge, and are far behind the Big XII, and doesn't have close to yhe depth the Pac 12 does.
Pitt went where they needed to go for football reasons, but the basketball program isn't better off because of it. Both recruiting and attendance have fallen off since the move. You can spin it any way you like, but that's the truth.
1. The Big East is nowhere near being a mid-major conference.
2. The ACC isn't close to being the best conference.
Mid-majors don't have multiple top ten teams, a national player of the year candidate, multiple freshmen All-American candidates, and a top 3 conference RPI.
The ACC got abused by the Big Ten in the challenge, and are far behind the Big XII, and doesn't have close to yhe depth the Pac 12 does.
Pitt went where they needed to go for football reasons, but the basketball program isn't better off because of it. Both recruiting and attendance have fallen off since the move. You can spin it any way you like, but that's the truth.
Only 4 of 13 from Western PA. And Jay can recruit...but will soon be forgotten in your CYO league.
Everyone knows they are mid major league too, one step above the Atlantic10. Nova =St Joe Hawks. Pollsters vote for current members in the BE for nostalgia sake. The BE is a shell of its former self. But don't worry- Nova still has the advantage of playing their home games in that barn they call the pavilion- should be condemned.
