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Narduzzi’s contract extension puts a good finishing touch on Pitt’s year. It doesn’t guarantee he will stay, but it’s a statement nonetheless. And it adds to my belief that he is going nowhere. The guy stayed in East Lansing for nine years, for god’s sake, as a DC, either not pursuing or rejecting many head coaching opportunities, waiting for the right job (his words).

His background suggests he is the antithesis of the Fraud. He is a builder, a guy who plants his feet. He and Dantonio take pride in MSU being the program they built, not one they inherited and managed for a few years. I think PN wants to do the same thing here, and unlike past Pitt coaches, he’s got the tools and support to do it. Pitt went from having one of the most unstable P5 coaching situations, to one of the most stable in the course of one year. And the guy can flat out recruit, coach and develop players.

Meanwhile, 2015 was awful for Franklin. It took the PSU job in 2014 and had a good recruiting year out of the gate. On the field, it didn’t go very well, but he could yell “sanctions” like all of the fan base, and they bought it. And his job didn’t seem to be a huge challenge, assuming he could dominate in recruiting as he boasted. He had several patsies in his division (Rutgers, MD, and Indiana) that he should be able to beat regularly in a year or so when his recruits got there. And Michigan was in a 7 year tailspin. MSU was good, but he had to figure he could eventually get by the upstart team from East Lansing before long. Upset Ohio State, and he’d be playing the B10 championship game.

Then the new year came...
Bamm! Harbaugh got hired. Michigan had the players, now they had the coach.
Narduzzi gets hired at Pitt. JF probably didn’t realize what a recruiting threat he was going to be immediately (or such an in-your-face, pain in the ass either), but it didn’t take long for him to find out.
Then, OSU beats up Bama and wins the NC, elevating their program a notch higher.
All of that happened in the first ten days of January. Not a good start for James from State College.

Another good recruiting season, and another poor performance on the field; fans getting seriously critical and restless. Bad losses across the board again to the big 3 in conference, and a butt whopping by in-state Temple. MSU beats OSU and UM, and is playing for a NC, confirming they are still clearly in the top 3. MD gets rid of Edsall, and hires a Harbaugh protege for its HC, and he immediately hires two great assistants (Schafer and London), assistants that PSU fans would absolutely love to see on Franklin’s staff. His “MD is in-state too” recruiting comment is about to get run over. Even Rutgers has a new coach, who actually has a heartbeat and may already be a better coach than Franklin. Harbaugh just flipped two of his recruits, and PN may end up getting a big one to flip too. The walls are starting to close in on CF. No one can imagine him coming anywhere close to competing, let alone winning, his division for years to come.
Also, his reputation as a coach, and as a recruiter among HS coaches, is likely taking a big hit. I don’t see this ending well for him.

For Pitt, just remember where the program was a year ago, when we heard Chryst was likely going back to Wisconsin, and we thought Peterson was going to be in charge of finding us another new coach. God, I almost threw up just writing that.
If someone then had told you they could see a year in advance and told you where the program would be today, you’d have laughed and thought that was nothing but a fantastically absurd wet dream.
 
Narduzzi had a great first year, but so far I've seen nothing to support the assertion that he can flat out recruit. So far, recruiting has been very underwhelming under Narduzzi.
 
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Narduzzi had a great first year, but so far I've seen nothing to support the assertion that he can flat out recruit. So far, recruiting has been very underwhelming under Narduzzi.
Narduzzi isn't a paper champ, he did a fantastic job this year for what he had and the last time I checked it is Dec 10. Clowns belong in circuses so get lost bozo.
 
says TD lol

Well, we are averaging over 3 stars for recruits, that is 32nd ranked in the entire country by rivals right now. That is not bad! Last year we were 50th in avg rating with 2.8 stars, 3 years ago we were 51st.

So, I would say he is paying immediate dividends. If he can get a couple more of these elite players (and he already has Ford a 4 star for 2017) going that number is going to keep rising.

You may be underwhelmed, but that is OK since you're comment was underwhelming us.
 
Narduzzi had a great first year, but so far I've seen nothing to support the assertion that he can flat out recruit. So far, recruiting has been very underwhelming under Narduzzi.

Well I'm happy with the 8 win year without JC and I'm happy with how recruiting has gone so far. Too bad you have your head so far up the dominator's a$$ you can't see this.
 
TD is PITT's all year long version of Ebenezer Scrooge.
Its the PITT the glass is half full or empty club. Lots of members of this club frequent Panther Lair.It's a wonder that the sun comes up in the morning for some of these people.
 
I think what is great is that Pitt is actually acting like it wants to play big boy football. Aside from TD, who thinks every school should be Alabama and Nick Saban, immediately, Pitt has constantly done what it hasn't been doing since the beginning of the year.

Steps. Progress. 30 years of neglect doesn't change over night.
 
That is true. We have seen slight upticks before, and sustainability has been the issue. Locking in Narduzzi is a key to that sustainability. It is a good time for this, as we have some good talent in the WPIAL and the area the next few years.
 
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I think what is great is that Pitt is actually acting like it wants to play big boy football. Aside from TD, who thinks every school should be Alabama and Nick Saban, immediately, Pitt has constantly done what it hasn't been doing since the beginning of the year.

Steps. Progress. 30 years of neglect doesn't change over night.


Exactly right. And look past the stars - at least the offer sheets some of these kids have is at a higher level than they have had previously.
 
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Narduzzi’s contract extension puts a good finishing touch on Pitt’s year. It doesn’t guarantee he will stay, but it’s a statement nonetheless. And it adds to my belief that he is going nowhere. The guy stayed in East Lansing for nine years, for god’s sake, as a DC, either not pursuing or rejecting many head coaching opportunities, waiting for the right job (his words).

His background suggests he is the antithesis of the Fraud. He is a builder, a guy who plants his feet. He and Dantonio take pride in MSU being the program they built, not one they inherited and managed for a few years. I think PN wants to do the same thing here, and unlike past Pitt coaches, he’s got the tools and support to do it. Pitt went from having one of the most unstable P5 coaching situations, to one of the most stable in the course of one year. And the guy can flat out recruit, coach and develop players.

Meanwhile, 2015 was awful for Franklin. It took the PSU job in 2014 and had a good recruiting year out of the gate. On the field, it didn’t go very well, but he could yell “sanctions” like all of the fan base, and they bought it. And his job didn’t seem to be a huge challenge, assuming he could dominate in recruiting as he boasted. He had several patsies in his division (Rutgers, MD, and Indiana) that he should be able to beat regularly in a year or so when his recruits got there. And Michigan was in a 7 year tailspin. MSU was good, but he had to figure he could eventually get by the upstart team from East Lansing before long. Upset Ohio State, and he’d be playing the B10 championship game.

Then the new year came...
Bamm! Harbaugh got hired. Michigan had the players, now they had the coach.
Narduzzi gets hired at Pitt. JF probably didn’t realize what a recruiting threat he was going to be immediately (or such an in-your-face, pain in the ass either), but it didn’t take long for him to find out.
Then, OSU beats up Bama and wins the NC, elevating their program a notch higher.
All of that happened in the first ten days of January. Not a good start for James from State College.

Another good recruiting season, and another poor performance on the field; fans getting seriously critical and restless. Bad losses across the board again to the big 3 in conference, and a butt whopping by in-state Temple. MSU beats OSU and UM, and is playing for a NC, confirming they are still clearly in the top 3. MD gets rid of Edsall, and hires a Harbaugh protege for its HC, and he immediately hires two great assistants (Schafer and London), assistants that PSU fans would absolutely love to see on Franklin’s staff. His “MD is in-state too” recruiting comment is about to get run over. Even Rutgers has a new coach, who actually has a heartbeat and may already be a better coach than Franklin. Harbaugh just flipped two of his recruits, and PN may end up getting a big one to flip too. The walls are starting to close in on CF. No one can imagine him coming anywhere close to competing, let alone winning, his division for years to come.
Also, his reputation as a coach, and as a recruiter among HS coaches, is likely taking a big hit. I don’t see this ending well for him.

For Pitt, just remember where the program was a year ago, when we heard Chryst was likely going back to Wisconsin, and we thought Peterson was going to be in charge of finding us another new coach. God, I almost threw up just writing that.
If someone then had told you they could see a year in advance and told you where the program would be today, you’d have laughed and thought that was nothing but a fantastically absurd wet dream.
Franklin looked like a good hire by UPS at the time. But with all the coaching changes that have occurred since Franklin's hiring -- UPS has to be disappointed as their guy doesn't measure up so well; even to guys like Mendenhall and Richt who ACC teams have hired, let alone a coach like Jim Harbaugh...

Go PItt.
 
TD is just upset...
He knows that Penn States reality is likely a 4th or 5th place finish every year in their half of the Big Ten. Thus he will never be able to see his idol James Franklin succeed. Lmao
 
Narduzzi’s contract extension puts a good finishing touch on Pitt’s year. It doesn’t guarantee he will stay, but it’s a statement nonetheless. And it adds to my belief that he is going nowhere. The guy stayed in East Lansing for nine years, for god’s sake, as a DC, either not pursuing or rejecting many head coaching opportunities, waiting for the right job (his words).

His background suggests he is the antithesis of the Fraud. He is a builder, a guy who plants his feet. He and Dantonio take pride in MSU being the program they built, not one they inherited and managed for a few years. I think PN wants to do the same thing here, and unlike past Pitt coaches, he’s got the tools and support to do it. Pitt went from having one of the most unstable P5 coaching situations, to one of the most stable in the course of one year. And the guy can flat out recruit, coach and develop players.

Meanwhile, 2015 was awful for Franklin. It took the PSU job in 2014 and had a good recruiting year out of the gate. On the field, it didn’t go very well, but he could yell “sanctions” like all of the fan base, and they bought it. And his job didn’t seem to be a huge challenge, assuming he could dominate in recruiting as he boasted. He had several patsies in his division (Rutgers, MD, and Indiana) that he should be able to beat regularly in a year or so when his recruits got there. And Michigan was in a 7 year tailspin. MSU was good, but he had to figure he could eventually get by the upstart team from East Lansing before long. Upset Ohio State, and he’d be playing the B10 championship game.

Then the new year came...
Bamm! Harbaugh got hired. Michigan had the players, now they had the coach.
Narduzzi gets hired at Pitt. JF probably didn’t realize what a recruiting threat he was going to be immediately (or such an in-your-face, pain in the ass either), but it didn’t take long for him to find out.
Then, OSU beats up Bama and wins the NC, elevating their program a notch higher.
All of that happened in the first ten days of January. Not a good start for James from State College.

Another good recruiting season, and another poor performance on the field; fans getting seriously critical and restless. Bad losses across the board again to the big 3 in conference, and a butt whopping by in-state Temple. MSU beats OSU and UM, and is playing for a NC, confirming they are still clearly in the top 3. MD gets rid of Edsall, and hires a Harbaugh protege for its HC, and he immediately hires two great assistants (Schafer and London), assistants that PSU fans would absolutely love to see on Franklin’s staff. His “MD is in-state too” recruiting comment is about to get run over. Even Rutgers has a new coach, who actually has a heartbeat and may already be a better coach than Franklin. Harbaugh just flipped two of his recruits, and PN may end up getting a big one to flip too. The walls are starting to close in on CF. No one can imagine him coming anywhere close to competing, let alone winning, his division for years to come.
Also, his reputation as a coach, and as a recruiter among HS coaches, is likely taking a big hit. I don’t see this ending well for him.

For Pitt, just remember where the program was a year ago, when we heard Chryst was likely going back to Wisconsin, and we thought Peterson was going to be in charge of finding us another new coach. God, I almost threw up just writing that.
If someone then had told you they could see a year in advance and told you where the program would be today, you’d have laughed and thought that was nothing but a fantastically absurd wet dream.
Add that Narduzzi called out the bully, and JF didn't know how to answer.
 
Add that Narduzzi called out the bully, and JF didn't know how to answer.
MarySki there is no such thing as a bully. Bully's are fiction created by people who act and think they are victims.
Narduzzi is to big to become a victim, the bully is now a punk, and that's why Narduzzi's a Panther!
 
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What kind of Head Coach fires a the coordinator from his side of the ball two years in?

Answer. A head coach that does not know what he is doing.
 
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What kind of Head Coach fires a the coordinator from his side of the ball two years in?
The Ham Sandwich with headphones the fake, phony, talking coach Frankie Football!
The nitters have damaged their already damaged brand by hiring Franklin but lets hope he hangs around since they'll never get it right with him as the head coach!
 
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What kind of Head Coach fires a the coordinator from his side of the ball two years in?

Answer. A head coach that does not know what he is doing.


After next season i'm sure he'll throw our buddy Herb Hand under the bus. He can only cover his tracks for so long till his head will be on the chopping block.
 
Well, it's nice to finally have a HC and a staff with a plan! Makes all the difference in the world. I believe we finish the recruiting year strong. 9 wins makes the sales pitch easier.
 
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Currently, Pitt's class is ranked 56 by rivals and 10th in the ACC. That isn't setting the world on fire & I don't think I'm being negative by simply saying I'm not overwhelmed. I think we should be doing better.
 
You are foolish if you take these amateur ratings seriously. Narduzzi and MSU got out recruited, according these class rankings, for 9 straight years by Michigan when Narduzzi was there, and MSU kicked their butts ON THE FIELD for 7 of the past 8 years.

But nobody is accusing Franklin of not being able to sell to recruits; the accusation is that he can't develop players, or put together a decent game plan, or make mid-game adjustments, or manage a game.
 
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You are foolish if you take these amateur ratings seriously. Narduzzi and MSU got out recruited, according these class rankings, for 9 straight years by Michigan when Narduzzi was there, and MSU kicked their butts ON THE FIELD for 7 of the past 8 years.

But nobody is accusing Franklin of not being able to sell to recruits; the accusation is that he can't develop players, or put together a decent game plan, or make mid-game adjustments, or manage a game.

A recruiting class ranked 17th suggests Franklin IS having trouble selling to recruits.

Recruiting matters. I saw what Alabama did to Dantonio's 4th MSU team in the Capital One Bowl. It was obvious the Spartans were lacking in talent and not ready to run with the big boys. Dantonio's first 6 years in East Lansing were nothing to write home about.
 
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Narduzzi’s contract extension puts a good finishing touch on Pitt’s year. It doesn’t guarantee he will stay, but it’s a statement nonetheless. And it adds to my belief that he is going nowhere. The guy stayed in East Lansing for nine years, for god’s sake, as a DC, either not pursuing or rejecting many head coaching opportunities, waiting for the right job (his words).

His background suggests he is the antithesis of the Fraud. He is a builder, a guy who plants his feet. He and Dantonio take pride in MSU being the program they built, not one they inherited and managed for a few years. I think PN wants to do the same thing here, and unlike past Pitt coaches, he’s got the tools and support to do it. Pitt went from having one of the most unstable P5 coaching situations, to one of the most stable in the course of one year. And the guy can flat out recruit, coach and develop players.

Meanwhile, 2015 was awful for Franklin. It took the PSU job in 2014 and had a good recruiting year out of the gate. On the field, it didn’t go very well, but he could yell “sanctions” like all of the fan base, and they bought it. And his job didn’t seem to be a huge challenge, assuming he could dominate in recruiting as he boasted. He had several patsies in his division (Rutgers, MD, and Indiana) that he should be able to beat regularly in a year or so when his recruits got there. And Michigan was in a 7 year tailspin. MSU was good, but he had to figure he could eventually get by the upstart team from East Lansing before long. Upset Ohio State, and he’d be playing the B10 championship game.

Then the new year came...
Bamm! Harbaugh got hired. Michigan had the players, now they had the coach.
Narduzzi gets hired at Pitt. JF probably didn’t realize what a recruiting threat he was going to be immediately (or such an in-your-face, pain in the ass either), but it didn’t take long for him to find out.
Then, OSU beats up Bama and wins the NC, elevating their program a notch higher.
All of that happened in the first ten days of January. Not a good start for James from State College.

Another good recruiting season, and another poor performance on the field; fans getting seriously critical and restless. Bad losses across the board again to the big 3 in conference, and a butt whopping by in-state Temple. MSU beats OSU and UM, and is playing for a NC, confirming they are still clearly in the top 3. MD gets rid of Edsall, and hires a Harbaugh protege for its HC, and he immediately hires two great assistants (Schafer and London), assistants that PSU fans would absolutely love to see on Franklin’s staff. His “MD is in-state too” recruiting comment is about to get run over. Even Rutgers has a new coach, who actually has a heartbeat and may already be a better coach than Franklin. Harbaugh just flipped two of his recruits, and PN may end up getting a big one to flip too. The walls are starting to close in on CF. No one can imagine him coming anywhere close to competing, let alone winning, his division for years to come.
Also, his reputation as a coach, and as a recruiter among HS coaches, is likely taking a big hit. I don’t see this ending well for him.

For Pitt, just remember where the program was a year ago, when we heard Chryst was likely going back to Wisconsin, and we thought Peterson was going to be in charge of finding us another new coach. God, I almost threw up just writing that.
If someone then had told you they could see a year in advance and told you where the program would be today, you’d have laughed and thought that was nothing but a fantastically absurd wet dream.
Good post, and that is Just My Hunch, as well!

Narduzzi wants to stay at Pitt, others can differ but he can now just focus on building the Pitt Football program, Players, and Team.

Coach Pat has the support at Pitt with Chancellor Gallagher that he mentioned by name.

Along with Athletic Barnes who knows it all about building the Athletic Department to support the Coaches not his ego or career to leave with bad Mismanagement Decisions, unlike Pederson.


Rebuilding a College Football Top 25 Winning program comes from Chancellor Visions along with selecting the Right People, that all work towards that goal as a Team to, not like Pederson's Policies of Personal Greed!

It always starts with the Right People and Winning follows and Fans too! Only Dummies think otherwise! This is how it was done in 1970's!
 
A recruiting class ranked 17th suggests Franklin IS having trouble selling to recruits.

Recruiting matters. I saw what Alabama did to Dantonio's 4th MSU team in the Capital One Bowl. It was obvious the Spartans were lacking in talent and not ready to run with the big boys. Dantonio's first 6 years in East Lansing were nothing to write home about.
Disagree in part, no question Recruiting is important but Coaching matters more!

It takes time, and MSU where Nick Saban began was not a Top Program like Bama in SEC that had ready made Boosters willing to fund anything to win.

Saban won 2 Games after Sanctions but turned it around far faster with his own choosing of staff that is important to win on the GridIron. Dantonio had none of that at MSU until he stayed and built it up by winning with better coaching of 2 and 3 Star Recruits.


It took Bama many years and coaches to find West Virginian Native Saban that won like Bear Bryant at Bama. Once a Top 10 and 25 Program is built the important thing is to find the right Coach that keeps it there and stay there like Saban did at Bama.

Dantonio Program is still smaller than Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, and Penn State that also all the Revenues and Resources to pay staff, recruit with bigger summer camps and coaching clinics.

Yet, Wisky, Iowa, NW, and MSU does it with better coaching just like Baylor and TCU and Stanford now.


Dantonio had so much to do with far less and won more and beat Ranked Teams in his first years as Head Coach at MSU.

Once Coach Dantonio established coaching up his Players with a great Staff smarter recruits came and played better with more talent, it was coaching not just recruiting.

Florida, UTenn, Michigan and Texas were all Top Programs that had all the Resources with Top 10 Recruits and Recruiting Rankings, but all needed New and Better Coaches and that is why Coaching Character Matters and are on the comeback like Bama went through after losing Bear, more than just a Recruiting Rankings Coach!
 
Newsflash Captain, Those schools you listed aren't winning titles & aren't making the playoffs. MSU is the first to do so and I expect their stay to be short.
 
Newsflash Captain, Those schools you listed aren't winning titles & aren't making the playoffs. MSU is the first to do so and I expect their stay to be short.
Your News Flash has blinded you and your thinking. A Great Coach with Character can turn around those Schools just as Dantonio Coaching has made MSU better too!

CFB is a zero sum game, and someone wins and someone loses, Teams are defined by Coaches & Staffs, and Programs are built on that, after the winning over years.

Even Bama took years after Bear died and went through 7 Coaches over 30+ Years, from 1983 until 2007, and NCAA Sanctions before they attracted Saban and none won above .800% like Bear and Saban???


In addition, Bama, OU, OSU, FSU, have been to NCS Games and Bowls but Clemson, MSU, this year and Oregon last year, and TCU, Baylor, Iowa, Stanford just missed it last and this year.......showing a rise of Great Coaches without a long history of being a Great Program.
 
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It's impossible to win big without great recruiting. MSU, Stanford, Baylor, and Oregon rarely have a recruiting class lower than 15 or so these days.
 
TD just change the goddamn avatar to Capaletti already.... You fool no one... Most staters don't even ride Frankys jock as much as you ... It's clear you feel the need to defend someone last seen trying to find his ass with two hands and a road map in East Lansing...
 
Currently, Pitt's class is ranked 56 by rivals and 10th in the ACC. That isn't setting the world on fire & I don't think I'm being negative by simply saying I'm not overwhelmed. I think we should be doing better.
We'll end of a lot higher than that. The Dooz will close strong
 
TD just change the goddamn avatar to Capaletti already.... You fool no one... Most staters don't even ride Frankys jock as much as you ... It's clear you feel the need to defend someone last seen trying to find his ass with two hands and a road map in East Lansing...

that is funny. I'm convinced TD_Nitter is a deep cover troll. Or just stupid. Or both.
 
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