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2019 Defense - Finally Legit after 5 years in the making?

Last 1st round QB for the B1G conference was 1995... Kerry Collins who was a career journeyman.

Tell me about their Elite QB play.
The WOW was for better programs in the ACC not for better QBs!I'd say in comparing the top 5 programs in each conference it's a slight edge to the Big!OSU, Mich,Mich St, Wisc and PSU vs Clemson,Fla St,Miami, VA Tech and Louisville but Bwdik I deliver pizza!
 
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That being said, playing a nickel db isn't going to be a drastic change.

The issue lies with the DL more times than not.


Narduzzi made a remark that he thought the DL is the greatest strength of the defense.

I was a bit surprised at that comment when you consider the potential ceiling of the DBs this year.

As for the DLine... Aside from Weaver (who should have a terrific season), I dont remember watching an overly dominant DL - at least nothing that would lead me to think “Look out for these guys next year.” I do remember some good plays and some silly late hits on opposing QBs costing the team dearly.

Still, having AD around to teach them technique (how best to line up and make that first quick move to get penetration) will be invaluable. Maybe he’s already helped some of the players find their full potential. There is simply no better teacher in the country for that group.
 
Still, having AD around to teach them technique (how best to line up and make that first quick move to get penetration) will be invaluable. Maybe he’s already helped some of the players find their full potential. There is simply no better teacher in the country for that group.

Listen, having AD at 2% of the practices surely doesn't hurt, but trust me when I say he's not teaching anything revolutionary. His biggest help is motivation. Kids gravitate to his energy.

We generally aren't terrible in the technique department. The issue lies is there are no "dudes." I haven't seen any since AD. We have no one that Forces a double or changes in protection.
 
The WOW was for better programs in the ACC not for better QBs!I'd say in comparing the top 5 programs in each conference it's a slight edge to the Big!OSU, Mich,Mich St, Wisc and PSU vs Clemson,Fla St,Miami, VA Tech and Louisville but Bwdik I deliver pizza!

Better QBs, better passing games, better offense, better teams, better programs... all of it is true.
 
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Outside of Clemson, the B10's top teams - OSU, Michigan, MSU, PSU, and Wisky are better teams and there is no question better programs.
You’ve got to be kidding. Florida State has accomplished far more as a program over the past 10 years than anyone in the Big 10 not named Ohio State.
 
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76 what ever you say is correct in my mind because I have below average intelligence and you are whoever you are?The ACC would smash the Big in a head to head no doubt,you've won me over to become an ACC fan 76.Gotta go make a large pepperoni with anchovies.
 
76 what ever you say is correct in my mind because I have below average intelligence and you are whoever you are?The ACC would smash the Big in a head to head no doubt,you've won me over to become an ACC fan 76.Gotta go make a large pepperoni with anchovies.

Believe whatever you like Pizza dude... I'm not trying to convince anyone... the numbers/metrics speak for themselves.
 
Face it. This defense couldn't shut-out a horrible Miami offense?? A top-5 ACC defense... Miami doesn't cross midfield.
 
You’ve got to be kidding. Florida State has accomplished far more as a program over the past 10 years than anyone in the Big 10 not named Ohio State.

FSU has been putrid the past few years. Jameis has been in the NFL for it seems like an eternity. Things don't look to be on the upswing under Taggert.
 
You never answered my question.. I know the truth is a hard pill to swallow.

Dude, I'm an acc fan. The B10 is a better conference. Look at the data.

This argument reminds of when when we were in the big east with Miami.

Outside of Clemson who is clearly one of the top 3 programs in the country, who is great in the acc?

The acc had 1 top 25 team in Clemson. The B10 had 5.
 
Dude, I'm an acc fan. The B10 is a better conference. Look at the data.

This argument reminds of when when we were in the big east with Miami.

Outside of Clemson who is clearly one of the top 3 programs in the country, who is great in the acc?

The acc had 1 top 25 team in Clemson. The B10 had 5.

Aside from Ohio State who was the last B1G team to win an outright NC? What year was it?
 
How many years in a row will the B1G be left out of then
Over the last 20 years. National Titles.
Clemson - 2
FSU - 2
OSU - 2
Miami - 1

Forget about winning championships...the B1G can't even get into the playoff consistently and when they do they get embarrassed 31-0.
 
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76 I was just thinking about 2018 after I got back from the 20th ranked Mountaineers DH sweep of Kansas. Didn't the 4th place Big East team beat the ACC Coastal Champs on the Champs home field? Good night 76 and have a happy Easter!
 
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Then why did you bring up Brady and Brees who were both drafted nearly 20years ago??

My goodness...

I think it's strange you would criticize b10 qbs when these 3 are among the top qbs in football for the past 20 years....

Who has the acc produced in this time frame that are better?

FSU - Jameis?.
Miami - ?
Clemson - Watson?
VT - ?
PITT - peterman?
Syracuse?
BC - Ryan?
UNC - trubinsky?
Louisville - Jackson?
UVA - schaub?
Wake - ?
NC State - Rivers
GT?
Duke - Jones?
 
20 years?

My goodness, I'm talking recent history.
You said PROGRAMS. Just because FSU had 1-2 bad seasons does not diminish their dominance as a program over a 20 year stretch. They will not be down for long. You are wrong Brian. Move onto the next topic.
 
76 I was just thinking about 2018 after I got back from the 14th ranked Mountaineers DH sweep of Kansas. Didn't the 4th place Big East team beat the ACC Coastal Champs on the Champs home field? Good night 76 and have a happy Easter!

Wtf kinda kurfluffle is this?
 
Because that's how far back you have to go to find a first rounder... 1995.

But, the B1G is great because they made Tom Brady, the best QB ever to play, into a 6th round pick.

He couldn't start until his junior year. They had NFL qbs on that roster.
 
I think it's strange you would criticize b10 qbs when these 3 are among the top qbs in football for the past 20 years....

Who has the acc produced in this time frame that are better?

FSU - Jameis?.
Miami - ?
Clemson - Watson?
VT - ?
PITT - peterman?
Syracuse?
BC - Ryan?
UNC - trubinsky?
Louisville - Jackson?
UVA - schaub?
Wake - ?
NC State - Rivers
GT?
Duke - Jones?
You keep moving the bar buddy. Set the bar and stick to it.
 
The ACC is superior to the B1G in every single metric you can think of...
Championships, players drafted, players in the NFL... everything.
Every single metric I can think of in recent history?

Past 5 years vs Power-5 opponent
ACC (without Clemson) - 41.2% win rate
Big10 (without OSU) - 50.5%

Massey Composite Average Conference Rankings (Past 5 years)
ACC - 3.4
B10 - 3.4

Teams in final Massey Composite Top 25 (previous 5 seasons)
ACC - 17
B10 - 22

Players drafted in first 3 rounds (past 5 years)
ACC - 77
B10 - 85

Teams in CFP Final Weekend Rankings (Past 5 years)
ACC - 18
B10 - 22

Look, I think it'd be hard to dispute ACC superiority in basketball, but it's anything but clear ACC dominance.
 
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I think it's strange you would criticize b10 qbs when these 3 are among the top qbs in football for the past 20 years....

Who has the acc produced in this time frame that are better?

FSU - Jameis?.
Miami - ?
Clemson - Watson?
VT - ?
PITT - peterman?
Syracuse?
BC - Ryan?
UNC - trubinsky?
Louisville - Jackson?
UVA - schaub?
Wake - ?
NC State - Rivers
GT?
Duke - Jones?

Who did I criticize?? I stated a fact that the last B1G QB who was a 1st round pick was 1995.

4 of the ACC QBs you listed were first round picks... (possibly 5.)

You dont have to go back to 1995 to find a 1st round pick. Lol
 
Wtf kinda kurfluffle is this?
I know what wtf means but what does kurfluffle mean?I'm just saying that a 4th place Big team beat the snot out of the ACC Coastal Champs on the Champs field.If the ACC is loaded with these great teams how did this happen. Plus I was bragging about Wvu being ranked in the top 20 in baseball.
 
Every single metric I can think of in recent history?

Past 5 years vs Power-5 opponent
ACC (without Clemson) - 41.2% win rate
Big10 (without OSU) - 50.5%

Massey Composite Average Conference Rankings (Past 5 years)
ACC - 3.4
B10 - 3.4

Teams in final Massey Composite Top 25 (previous 5 seasons)
ACC - 17
B10 - 22

Players drafted in first 3 rounds (past 5 years)
ACC - 77
B10 - 85

Teams in CFP Final Weekend Rankings (Past 5 years)
ACC - 18
B10 - 22

Look, I think it'd be hard to dispute ACC superiority in basketball, but it's anything but clear ACC dominance.
The SEC is the best football conference, and the ACC is the best basketball conference. There is no disputing that.
 
Every single metric I can think of in recent history?

Past 5 years vs Power-5 opponent
ACC (without Clemson) - 41.2% win rate
Big10 (without OSU) - 50.5%

Massey Composite Average Conference Rankings (Past 5 years)
ACC - 3.4
B10 - 3.4

Teams in final Massey Composite Top 25 (previous 5 seasons)
ACC - 17
B10 - 22

Players drafted in first 3 rounds (past 5 years)
ACC - 77
B10 - 85

Teams in CFP Final Weekend Rankings (Past 5 years)
ACC - 18
B10 - 22

Look, I think it'd be hard to dispute ACC superiority in basketball, but it's anything but clear ACC dominance.

Ridiculous cherry picking the few stats that somehow make the B1G seem superior...
 
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