2024 FAB 22

[pittmeister]

Bradley Gompers LB/WR – Central Catholic - SR – Duke

Tikey Hayes RB/DB – Aliquippa – SR – Benchwarmer U

Matt Sieg QB/DB – Fort Cherry – JR – Future Benchwarmer U

Shep Turk – OL/DL – Thomas Jefferson – SR – PITT

Mickey Vaccarello – LB/TE – Peters Township – SR - Stanford

Xxavier Thomas – WR/CB – Central Catholic – SR – Benchwarmer U

Dayshaun Burnett – WR/LB - Iman Christian – SR – Benchwarmer U

Lincoln Hoke – OL/DL – North Allegheny – JR – Undecided

Nate Stohl – OL/DL – Upper St Clair – SR – Undecided

Scoop Smith – CB/WR – Woodland Hills – JR – Undecided

Kemon Spell – RB/CB – McKeesport – JR – Undecided

Reston Lehman – LB/TE – Peters Township – JR – Undecided

Brayden White – DB/WR – Thomas Jefferson – SR – Undecided

Donald Barksdale RB/DB – Steel Valley – SR – Undecided

Parker Cunningham – OL/DL – South Park -SR – James Madison

Naytel Mitchell – RB/LB – Penn Hills – SR – Undecided

Jay Timmons – WR/DB – Pine-Richland – JR – Undecided

JaVaughn Moore – RB/LB – Bethel Park – SR – Undecided

Brock Cornell – QB/DB – West Allegheny – SR – Bucknell

John Wetzel – QB/DB – Latrobe – SR – Marshall

Lloyd Penn – WR/DB – Westinghouse – SR – Undecided

Khalil Taylor – WR/DB – Seton-LaSalle – SO – Probable Future Benchwarmer U

 

[bobfree]

That's putting a fence up!

 

[pittmeister]

That's putting a fence up!

The only Senior on this list I believe will possibly be a loss to Pitt is Gompers. The rest of the benchwarmers will be lost in witness protection.

 

[Seneca_Valley]

Bradley Gompers LB/WR – Central Catholic - SR – Duke

Tikey Hayes RB/DB – Aliquippa – SR – Benchwarmer U

Matt Sieg QB/DB – Fort Cherry – JR – Future Benchwarmer U

Shep Turk – OL/DL – Thomas Jefferson – SR – PITT

Mickey Vaccarello – LB/TE – Peters Township – SR - Stanford

Xxavier Thomas – WR/CB – Central Catholic – SR – Benchwarmer U

Dayshaun Burnett – WR/LB - Iman Christian – SR – Benchwarmer U

Lincoln Hoke – OL/DL – North Allegheny – JR – Undecided

Nate Stohl – OL/DL – Upper St Clair – SR – Undecided

Scoop Smith – CB/WR – Woodland Hills – JR – Undecided

Kemon Spell – RB/CB – McKeesport – JR – Undecided

Reston Lehman – LB/TE – Peters Township – JR – Undecided

Brayden White – DB/WR – Thomas Jefferson – SR – Undecided

Donald Barksdale RB/DB – Steel Valley – SR – Undecided

Parker Cunningham – OL/DL – South Park -SR – James Madison

Naytel Mitchell – RB/LB – Penn Hills – SR – Undecided

Jay Timmons – WR/DB – Pine-Richland – JR – Undecided

JaVaughn Moore – RB/LB – Bethel Park – SR – Undecided

Brock Cornell – QB/DB – West Allegheny – SR – Bucknell

John Wetzel – QB/DB – Latrobe – SR – Marshall

Lloyd Penn – WR/DB – Westinghouse – SR – Undecided

Khalil Taylor – WR/DB – Seton-LaSalle – SO – Probable Future Benchwarmer U

It looks like we ceded the WPIAL to Franklin. Sad.............

 

[pittmeister]

Preseason list:

1. Tikey Hayes, Aliquippa, RB
2. Alex Tatsch, Latrobe, LB
3. Bradley Gompers, Central Catholic, LB
4. Dayshaun Burnett, Imani Christian, LB
5. Brady O’Hara, North Catholic, TE-DE
6. Mickey Vaccarello, Peters Township, LB
7. Antwan Black, Laurel Highlands, DB
8. Xxavier Thomas, Central Catholic, DB
9. Shep Turk, Thomas Jefferson, OL
10. John Wetzel, Latrobe, DB

 

[Upg bobcat]

Preseason list:

1. Tikey Hayes, Aliquippa, RB
2. Alex Tatsch, Latrobe, LB
3. Bradley Gompers, Central Catholic, LB
4. Dayshaun Burnett, Imani Christian, LB
5. Brady O’Hara, North Catholic, TE-DE
6. Mickey Vaccarello, Peters Township, LB
7. Antwan Black, Laurel Highlands, DB
8. Xxavier Thomas, Central Catholic, DB
9. Shep Turk, Thomas Jefferson, OL
10. John Wetzel, Latrobe, DB

I was gonna say -- I am surprised the Latrobe LB going to PSU didn't make this list. Did he have a bad season? Is he injured or something?

Seems like a lot more undecideds in comparison to years past. Is that because the high school recruiting landscape in college football has changed generally, with the limitless transfer portal and NIL results in decreased emphasis on high school kids? Or is there less talent in Western Pa? It's probably more likely a combination of both.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

I was gonna say -- I am surprised the Latrobe LB going to PSU didn't make this list. Did he have a bad season? Is he injured or something?

Seems like a lot more undecideds in comparison to years past. Is that because the high school recruiting landscape in college football has changed generally, with the limitless transfer portal and NIL results in decreased emphasis on high school kids? Or is there less talent in Western Pa? It's probably more likely a combination of both.

He got injured.

 

[pittmeister]

I was gonna say -- I am surprised the Latrobe LB going to PSU didn't make this list. Did he have a bad season? Is he injured or something?

Seems like a lot more undecideds in comparison to years past. Is that because the high school recruiting landscape in college football has changed generally, with the limitless transfer portal and NIL results in decreased emphasis on high school kids? Or is there less talent in Western Pa? It's probably more likely a combination of both.

Both Tatsch and Black got hurt. Black had a concussion and to be flown via helicopter to the hospital. Not sure about O'Hara. I don't think he was injured...

 

[mlvnsmly]

Bradley Gompers LB/WR – Central Catholic - SR – Duke

Tikey Hayes RB/DB – Aliquippa – SR – Benchwarmer U

Matt Sieg QB/DB – Fort Cherry – JR – Future Benchwarmer U

Shep Turk – OL/DL – Thomas Jefferson – SR – PITT

Mickey Vaccarello – LB/TE – Peters Township – SR - Stanford

Xxavier Thomas – WR/CB – Central Catholic – SR – Benchwarmer U

Dayshaun Burnett – WR/LB - Iman Christian – SR – Benchwarmer U

Lincoln Hoke – OL/DL – North Allegheny – JR – Undecided

Nate Stohl – OL/DL – Upper St Clair – SR – Undecided

Scoop Smith – CB/WR – Woodland Hills – JR – Undecided

Kemon Spell – RB/CB – McKeesport – JR – Undecided

Reston Lehman – LB/TE – Peters Township – JR – Undecided

Brayden White – DB/WR – Thomas Jefferson – SR – Undecided

Donald Barksdale RB/DB – Steel Valley – SR – Undecided

Parker Cunningham – OL/DL – South Park -SR – James Madison

Naytel Mitchell – RB/LB – Penn Hills – SR – Undecided

Jay Timmons – WR/DB – Pine-Richland – JR – Undecided

JaVaughn Moore – RB/LB – Bethel Park – SR – Undecided

Brock Cornell – QB/DB – West Allegheny – SR – Bucknell

John Wetzel – QB/DB – Latrobe – SR – Marshall

Lloyd Penn – WR/DB – Westinghouse – SR – Undecided

Khalil Taylor – WR/DB – Seton-LaSalle – SO – Probable Future Benchwarmer U

Crazy the Peters QB didn't make it, but 2 of his teammates did. He looked like the only good player on his team last week. That LB going to Stanford looked slow.

 

[mike 301]

I was gonna say -- I am surprised the Latrobe LB going to PSU didn't make this list. Did he have a bad season? Is he injured or something?

He found out the truth . Joe Knew ...

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Bradley Gompers LB/WR – Central Catholic - SR – Duke

Tikey Hayes RB/DB – Aliquippa – SR – Benchwarmer U

Matt Sieg QB/DB – Fort Cherry – JR – Future Benchwarmer U

Shep Turk – OL/DL – Thomas Jefferson – SR – PITT

Mickey Vaccarello – LB/TE – Peters Township – SR - Stanford

Xxavier Thomas – WR/CB – Central Catholic – SR – Benchwarmer U

Dayshaun Burnett – WR/LB - Iman Christian – SR – Benchwarmer U

Lincoln Hoke – OL/DL – North Allegheny – JR – Undecided

Nate Stohl – OL/DL – Upper St Clair – SR – Undecided

Scoop Smith – CB/WR – Woodland Hills – JR – Undecided

Kemon Spell – RB/CB – McKeesport – JR – Undecided

Reston Lehman – LB/TE – Peters Township – JR – Undecided

Brayden White – DB/WR – Thomas Jefferson – SR – Undecided

Donald Barksdale RB/DB – Steel Valley – SR – Undecided

Parker Cunningham – OL/DL – South Park -SR – James Madison

Naytel Mitchell – RB/LB – Penn Hills – SR – Undecided

Jay Timmons – WR/DB – Pine-Richland – JR – Undecided

JaVaughn Moore – RB/LB – Bethel Park – SR – Undecided

Brock Cornell – QB/DB – West Allegheny – SR – Bucknell

John Wetzel – QB/DB – Latrobe – SR – Marshall

Lloyd Penn – WR/DB – Westinghouse – SR – Undecided

Khalil Taylor – WR/DB – Seton-LaSalle – SO – Probable Future Benchwarmer U

Narduzzi's recruiting struggles locally pre-dated NIL. It is almost impossible to recruit as bad locally as he has. Its never been this bad. Not even close.

 

[bobfree]

Had Pat Narduzzi hired Terry Smith then Brennan Marion his tenure would look a lot different.

 

[pittmeister]

For contrast, compare the First FAB 22 in 1980:

Rich Ingold – QB – Seton-LaSalle – South Carolina
Shawn Morton – QB – Bethel Park - Cincinnati
Ken Karcher – QB – Shaler – Notre Dame
Mike Huwar – QB – Frazier – PITT (Played DB)

Matt Stennett – RB – Shaler – PITT (played DB)
Darnell Stone – RB – Thomas Jefferson – PITT
Pedro Bowman – RB – Thomas Jefferson - Duquesne
Marlon McIntyre – RB – Belle-Vernon - PITT

Nick Merrick – WR – Seton-LaSalle – Virginia
Larry Miles – WR – Bethel Park – Maryland
Jonathan Hayes – WR – So. Fayette – Iowa

Bill Fralic – OL/DL – Penn Hills – PITT
Bob Schilken – OL/DL – Mt Lebanon – PITT
Eric Alwine – OL/DL – Greensburg CC – PSU
George Little – OL/DL – Duquesne – Iowa
Kevin Dorcak - OL/DL – Gateway – Lafayette
Stacy Burrell - OL/DL – Aliquippa – Kentucky

Cesar Aldisert – LB – Mt Lebanon – PITT
Mark Herrman – LB – New Brighton – Vanderbilt

Mark Hogan – DB – Brashear – Tennessee
Mark Kelso – DB – North Hills – William & Mary (Played in 4 Super Bowls)
Nathan Borders – DB – Riverside – Indiana

Nineteen P4 scholarships by today’s standards. Only a few non-Division I Scholarships. Not like today…

There were also 26 other players who were not on the FAB 22 list that got P4 scholarships. That’s a total of forty-five P4 scholarships given in one year from the WPIAL.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

Had Pat Narduzzi hired Terry Smith then Brennan Marion his tenure would look a lot different.

Who are the WPIAL players at PSU who are making difference? I'm not sure they have a WPIAL player in the 2 deep.

Who did Brennan Marion land at PITT during his tenure?

What position was Narduzzi going to offer Terry Smith to pry him away from PSU in 2015? A coordinator job?

 

[bobfree]

Who are the WPIAL players at PSU who are making difference? I'm not sure they have a WPIAL player in the 2 deep.

Who did Brennan Marion land at PITT during his tenure?

What position was Narduzzi going to offer Terry Smith to pry him away from PSU in 2015? A coordinator job?

A lot of Wpial players have helped Penn state over the narduzzi years and Smith would have helped with others kids.

We get Sanders or Hardy that's a start. Not to mention you get a snowball effect with other recruits once you get these kids. Maybe Hudson doesn't go to Michigan?

I misspoke about smith and narduzzi it was Chryst who could have brought him in but instead he brought Haering. Which was an absurd pick.

Who did Marion bring in? He was here for one year. He's obviously had success as an OC. They give him a shot we keep Addison and don't hire Cignetti. Those sound like wins to me.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

For contrast, compare the First FAB 22 in 1980:

Rich Ingold – QB – Seton-LaSalle – South Carolina
Shawn Morton – QB – Bethel Park - Cincinnati
Ken Karcher – QB – Shaler – Notre Dame
Mike Huwar – QB – Frazier – PITT (Played DB)

Matt Stennett – RB – Shaler – PITT (played DB)
Darnell Stone – RB – Thomas Jefferson – PITT
Pedro Bowman – RB – Thomas Jefferson - Duquesne
Marlon McIntyre – RB – Belle-Vernon - PITT

Nick Merrick – WR – Seton-LaSalle – Virginia
Larry Miles – WR – Bethel Park – Maryland
Jonathan Hayes – WR – So. Fayette – Iowa

Bill Fralic – OL/DL – Penn Hills – PITT
Bob Schilken – OL/DL – Mt Lebanon – PITT
Eric Alwine – OL/DL – Greensburg CC – PSU
George Little – OL/DL – Duquesne – Iowa
Kevin Dorcak - OL/DL – Gateway – Lafayette
Stacy Burrell - OL/DL – Aliquippa – Kentucky

Cesar Aldisert – LB – Mt Lebanon – PITT
Mark Herrman – LB – New Brighton – Vanderbilt

Mark Hogan – DB – Brashear – Tennessee
Mark Kelso – DB – North Hills – William & Mary (Played in 4 Super Bowls)
Nathan Borders – DB – Riverside – Indiana

Nineteen P4 scholarships by today’s standards. Only a few non-Division I Scholarships. Not like today…

There were also 26 other players who were not on the FAB 22 list that got P4 scholarships. That’s a total of forty-five P4 scholarships given in one year from the WPIAL.

Isnt that misleading though because there were unlimited scholarships?

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Isnt that misleading though because there were unlimited scholarships?

There weren’t unlimited ‘ships in 1980.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

A lot of Wpial players have helped Penn state over the narduzzi years and Smith would have helped with others kids.

I think during the Franklin era, the WPIAL hasn't really produced that much for him. His DMV/EPA guys seem to carrying most of the workload.

We get Sanders or Hardy that's a start. Not to mention you get a snowball effect with other recruits once you get these kids. Maybe Hudson doesn't go to Michigan?

I would have loved to have Sanders.

Hardy? He was a good guy off the bench for PSU for sure. But, would he have been a difference maker during the era of Hamlin, Ford, Pinnock, Jackson, Mathis, Hallett, Hill, etc? I think he would have had basically the same role he had at PSU at best.

Who did Marion bring in? He was here for one year. He's obviously had success as an OC. They give him a shot we keep Addison and don't hire Cignetti. Those sound like wins to me.

Addison was gone regardless if Marion was here or not. If it were a Marion thing, Addison would've went to Texas and not USC.

 

[HailtoPitt]

That's putting a fence up!

Franklin installed a bunch of gates in the fence.

Hard for recruits to get excited when Pitt plays off campus in a partially empty stadium of another team. It s what it is. I'm sure Penn State can offer a lot more. They'd probably even provide young boys if it helped land a five star. Whatever ever happened to Mark Madden's story about the the young boy pedophile ring?

 

[HopeandChangeforAntoons]

During the Narduzzi era what WPIAL recruits have turned out to be the best?

Sanders
Hinish
Hudson
Hamlin
Geno Stone
Di Nucci
?

Edit: I’m sure I’m omitting some guys like Hayes, FitzSimmons, McMillon that have been productive but are still in school.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

During the Narduzzi era what WPIAL recruits have turned out to be the best?

Sanders
Hinish
Hudson
Hamlin
Geno Stone
Di Nucci
?

Edit: I’m sure I’m omitting some guys like Hayes, FitzSimmons, McMillon that have been productive but are still in school.

Sky Moore, Dane Jackson, Joey Porter Jr.

Zandier was "college good." Devonshire got drafted, but I question how sticky of a corner he was/is. Hainsey, if you count him. Hardy. Paris had an AA season. I think Lovelace makes the still in school grouping. I'm sure I'm missing a few. But maybe not many. I saw Dinkins catch a touchdown against Wisconsin, I think. No idea what his career has been like, though. Katic is the starting at Indiana, and I believe he has been for a while now.

 

[HopeandChangeforAntoons]

Sky Moore, Dane Jackson, Joey Porter Jr.

Zandier was "college good." Devonshire got drafted, but I question how sticky of a corner he was/is. Hainsey, if you count him. Hardy. Paris had an AA season. I think Lovelace makes the still in school grouping. I'm sure I'm missing a few. But maybe not many. I saw Dinkins catch a touchdown against Wisconsin, I think. No idea what his career has been like, though. Katic is the starting at Indiana, and I believe he has been for a while now.

Definitely Porter. Hainsey, Moore, and Jackson were all hits. Ford was a head case but for a brief period he was as good a college player as any of them.

 

[bobfree]

I think during the Franklin era, the WPIAL hasn't really produced that much for him. His DMV/EPA guys seem to carrying most of the workload.

I would have loved to have Sanders.

Hardy? He was a good guy off the bench for PSU for sure. But, would he have been a difference maker during the era of Hamlin, Ford, Pinnock, Jackson, Mathis, Hallett, Hill, etc? I think he would have had basically the same role he had at PSU at best.

Addison was gone regardless if Marion was here or not. If it were a Marion thing, Addison would've went to Texas and not USC.

I don't think he was gone regardless. Think he saw the offense and knew it wasn't going to be a good thing for him.

Marion would have thrown him the ball more or at least convinced Addison he would have.

 

[pittmeister]

WPIAL Players since Narduzzi took over. There ain't a whole lot of difference makers there if we're being honest. The best players in my opinion are in BOLD. Sorted by high school.

CAMERON LINDSEY - OLB ALIQUIPPA 2024 PITT
ZURIAH FISHER - OLB ALIQUIPPA 2020 PSU
MARLIN DEVONSHIRE - CB ALIQUIPPA 2019 KY / PITT
WILL GIPSON - WR ALIQUIPPA 2019 PITT / TRANS
KWANTEL RAINES - S ALIQUIPPA 2018 WVU / TRANS
KAEZON PUGH - OLB ALIQUIPPA 2016 PITT / TRANS
DORIEN FORD - DT BALDWIN 2021 PITT
JOSH HOUGH - RB BEAVER FALLS 2021 SYRACUSE
DONOVAN JETER - DT BEAVER FALLS 2017 MICH
BLAKE ZUBOVIC - DT BELLE VERNON 2018 PITT
JAMES GMITER - DT BETHEL PARK 2018 WVU
JASON CROSS - S BISH. CANAVIN 2024 WVU
TA'MERE ROBINSON - OLB BRASHEAR 2023 PSU
THERRAN COLEMAN - CB BRASHEAR 2016 PITT
JAKE KRADEL - OT BUTLER 2018 PITT
ANTHONY SPECA - ILB CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 PSU
COLE SULLIVAN - OLB CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 MICH
PETER GONZALEZ - WR CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 PSU
TY YUHAS - DE CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 PITT
DONOVAN HINISH - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2022 ND
ELLIOT DONALD - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2021 PITT
AARON BEATTY CEN. CATHOLIC 2020 N. CAROLINA
DAVID GREEN - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2018 PITT
C.J. THORPE - OG CEN. CATHOLIC 2017 PSU
DAVID ADAMS CEN. CATHOLIC 2017 ND / MEDICAL
KURT HINISH - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2017 ND
DAMAR HAMLIN - S CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 PITT
RASHAD WHEELER - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 DT
BRICEN GARNER - S CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 PITT / TRANS
RONNIE JONES - RB CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 TOLEDO
SEAN FITZSIMMONS - DE CEN. VALLEY 2022 PITT
STEPHON HALL - S CEN. VALLEY 2021 PITT
LAMONT PAYNE - CB CHAR. VALLEY 2023 PSU
LAMONT WADE - S CLARION 2017 PSU
NOAH HAMLIN - WR CLARION 2017 CINN
AARON MATHEWS - ATH CLARION 2016 PITT
TJ BANKS - TE E. ALLEGHENY 2018 WVU / TRANS
KYI WRIGHT - OLB FARRELL 2019 PITT / TRANS
LOGAN THIMONS - ILB FREEPORT 2016 WVU
PATRICK BODY - ATH GATEWAY 2022 CIN / TRANS
DERRICK DAVIS - S GATEWAY 2021 LSU / PITT
TUI BROWN - ATH GATEWAY 2020 UCONN
COURTNEY JACKSON - WR GATEWAY 2019 SYRACUSE
AIDAN HOWARD - WR GATEWAY 2016 VA
KENNY ROBINSON - OLB IMANI CHRIS. 2017 WVU
SOL MORELAND - DT INMANI CHRIS. 2019 BALL STATE
BRANDON MOORE - OT KISKI AREA 2022 MIAMI OH
R. GALLAGHER - WR L. HIGHLANDS 2023 WVU
B. LOVELACE - OLB LEECHBURG 2023 PITT
MICHAEL CARMODY - OT MARS 2020 ND
ANTOINE COOK MCKEESPORT 2017 YSU
KHALEKE HUDSON - ATH MCKEESPORT 2016 MICH
TYLER SEAR - TE NESHANNOCK 2017 PITT / TRANS
MARCUS HOOKER - ATH NEW CASTLE 2018 OHIO ST / TRANS
GENO STONE - DB - NEW CASTLE 2017 IOWA
KHALIL DINKINS - TE N. ALLEGHENY 2021 PSU
JOEY PORTER JR. - CB N. ALLEGHENY 2019 PSU
JOSHUA LUGG - OT N. ALLEGHENY 2017 ND
GRIFFIN SESTILI - TE N. ALLEGHENY 2017 TEMPLE
JAKE LUGG - OG N. ALLEGHENY 2020 HARVARD
JACK SALOPEK - QB NORWIN 2020 W. MICHIGAN
JULIAN MAJOR - WR PENN HILLS 2018 MSU
RICK SQUIRES - ATH PENN HILLS 2017 BUFFALO
JULIAN DUGGER - DUAL PENN HILLS 2024 PITT
CADE YACAMELLI - ATH PENN TRAFF. 2022 WISCONSIN
TYREESE FEARBRY - DE PERRY 2022 KENTUCKY
DONOVAN MCMILLON - S PETERS TSP 2021 FLA / PITT
PHIL JURKOVEC - QB PINE-RICH. 2018 ND / BC/ PITT
KENNY WHITE - CB PINE-RICH. 2018 ?
RYAN CORY - OG PINE-RICH. 2024 WISCONSIN
JALEN KLEMM - OT PINE-RICH. 2022 KSU
JEREMIAH HASLEY - OLB PINE-RICH. 2022 DUKE
ANDREW KRISTOFIC - OT PINE-RICH. 2019 ND
MICHAEL KATIC - OG PINE-RICH. 2019 INDIANA
RAHMON HART - WR PINE-RICH. 2019 BALL STATE
TYLER KING - ILB PINE-RICH. 2019 NAVY
GRANT CARRIGAN - TE PINE-RICH. 2017 PITT
J. KALTENBERGER - OG SEN. VALLEY 2020 PURDUE
DINO TOMLIN - ATH SHADY SIDE 2019 MARYLAND / BC
SKYY MOORE - WR SHADY SIDE 2018 W. MICHIGAN
RYAN O'HAIR - OT SO. FAYETTE 2021 MIAMI OH
CRUCE BROOKINS - CB STEEL VALLEY 2023 PITT
PARIS FORD - S STEEL VALLEY 2017 PITT
DEWAYNE MURRAY - RB STEEL VALLEY 2017 ?
JORDAN MAYER - DE T. JEFFERSON 2023 WISCONSIN
DEVIN DANIELSON - DT T. JEFFERSON 2018 PITT
NOAH PALMER - DE T. JEFFERSON 2018 PITT / TRANS
ZANE ZANDIER T. JEFFERSON 2017 VA
AARON GUNN - OT UNION AREA 2021 LOUISVILLE
GABE HOUY - OT UP. ST CLAIR 2017 PITT
BRANDON FORD - OT UP. ST CLAIR 2016 PITT
ANDRE' PORTER - DT WASHINGTON 2021 MARYLAND
NAHKI JOHNSON - DE WEST MIFFLIN 2021 PITT
DAYON HAYES - DE WESTINGHOUSE 2020 PITT/COL
JOSH RAWLINGS - TE WOOD. HILLS 2020 VIRGINIA
MILES SANDERS - RB WOOD. HILLS 2016 PSU
JO-EL SHAW – RB - WOOD. HILLS 2016 SYR

 

[Upg bobcat]

During the Narduzzi era what WPIAL recruits have turned out to be the best?

Sanders
Hinish
Hudson
Hamlin
Geno Stone
Di Nucci
?

Edit: I’m sure I’m omitting some guys like Hayes, FitzSimmons, McMillon that have been productive but are still in school.

Are Malik Hooker and Justin Watson too old to be considered Narduzzi era recruits? They both have had nice NFL careers after outstanding college careers.

 

[pittmeister]

Are Malik Hooker and Justin Watson too old to be considered Narduzzi era recruits? They both have had nice NFL careers after outstanding college careers.

Yes. Both were before Narduzzi.

 

[HopeandChangeforAntoons]

Are Malik Hooker and Justin Watson too old to be considered Narduzzi era recruits? They both have had nice NFL careers after outstanding college careers.

I think those guys, like Boyd, would’ve been in school when Chryst was at Pitt.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

I think those guys, like Boyd, would’ve been in school when Chryst was at Pitt.

Watson went to Penn because he had 0 offers from P5 schools so everyone missed on him.

Hooker choose OSU. We weren’t winning that battle even though we made a strong attempt at landing him.

 

[pittmeister]

Isnt that misleading though because there were unlimited scholarships?

No.

95-scholarship limit was first imposed in 1977. It was later reduced to 85.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

WPIAL Players since Narduzzi took over. There ain't a whole lot of difference makers there if we're being honest. The best players in my opinion are in BOLD. Sorted by high school.

CAMERON LINDSEY - OLB ALIQUIPPA 2024 PITT
ZURIAH FISHER - OLB ALIQUIPPA 2020 PSU
MARLIN DEVONSHIRE - CB ALIQUIPPA 2019 KY / PITT
WILL GIPSON - WR ALIQUIPPA 2019 PITT / TRANS
KWANTEL RAINES - S ALIQUIPPA 2018 WVU / TRANS
KAEZON PUGH - OLB ALIQUIPPA 2016 PITT / TRANS
DORIEN FORD - DT BALDWIN 2021 PITT
JOSH HOUGH - RB BEAVER FALLS 2021 SYRACUSE
DONOVAN JETER - DT BEAVER FALLS 2017 MICH
BLAKE ZUBOVIC - DT BELLE VERNON 2018 PITT
JAMES GMITER - DT BETHEL PARK 2018 WVU
JASON CROSS - S BISH. CANAVIN 2024 WVU
TA'MERE ROBINSON - OLB BRASHEAR 2023 PSU
THERRAN COLEMAN - CB BRASHEAR 2016 PITT
JAKE KRADEL - OT BUTLER 2018 PITT
ANTHONY SPECA - ILB CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 PSU
COLE SULLIVAN - OLB CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 MICH
PETER GONZALEZ - WR CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 PSU
TY YUHAS - DE CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 PITT
DONOVAN HINISH - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2022 ND
ELLIOT DONALD - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2021 PITT
AARON BEATTY CEN. CATHOLIC 2020 N. CAROLINA
DAVID GREEN - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2018 PITT
C.J. THORPE - OG CEN. CATHOLIC 2017 PSU
DAVID ADAMS CEN. CATHOLIC 2017 ND / MEDICAL
KURT HINISH - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2017 ND
DAMAR HAMLIN - S CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 PITT
RASHAD WHEELER - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 DT
BRICEN GARNER - S CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 PITT / TRANS
RONNIE JONES - RB CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 TOLEDO
SEAN FITZSIMMONS - DE CEN. VALLEY 2022 PITT
STEPHON HALL - S CEN. VALLEY 2021 PITT
LAMONT PAYNE - CB CHAR. VALLEY 2023 PSU
LAMONT WADE - S CLARION 2017 PSU
NOAH HAMLIN - WR CLARION 2017 CINN
AARON MATHEWS - ATH CLARION 2016 PITT
TJ BANKS - TE E. ALLEGHENY 2018 WVU / TRANS
KYI WRIGHT - OLB FARRELL 2019 PITT / TRANS
LOGAN THIMONS - ILB FREEPORT 2016 WVU
PATRICK BODY - ATH GATEWAY 2022 CIN / TRANS
DERRICK DAVIS - S GATEWAY 2021 LSU / PITT
TUI BROWN - ATH GATEWAY 2020 UCONN
COURTNEY JACKSON - WR GATEWAY 2019 SYRACUSE
AIDAN HOWARD - WR GATEWAY 2016 VA
KENNY ROBINSON - OLB IMANI CHRIS. 2017 WVU
SOL MORELAND - DT INMANI CHRIS. 2019 BALL STATE
BRANDON MOORE - OT KISKI AREA 2022 MIAMI OH
R. GALLAGHER - WR L. HIGHLANDS 2023 WVU
B. LOVELACE - OLB LEECHBURG 2023 PITT
MICHAEL CARMODY - OT MARS 2020 ND
ANTOINE COOK MCKEESPORT 2017 YSU
KHALEKE HUDSON - ATH MCKEESPORT 2016 MICH
TYLER SEAR - TE NESHANNOCK 2017 PITT / TRANS
MARCUS HOOKER - ATH NEW CASTLE 2018 OHIO ST / TRANS
GENO STONE - DB - NEW CASTLE 2017 IOWA
KHALIL DINKINS - TE N. ALLEGHENY 2021 PSU
JOEY PORTER JR. - CB N. ALLEGHENY 2019 PSU
JOSHUA LUGG - OT N. ALLEGHENY 2017 ND
GRIFFIN SESTILI - TE N. ALLEGHENY 2017 TEMPLE
JAKE LUGG - OG N. ALLEGHENY 2020 HARVARD
JACK SALOPEK - QB NORWIN 2020 W. MICHIGAN
JULIAN MAJOR - WR PENN HILLS 2018 MSU
RICK SQUIRES - ATH PENN HILLS 2017 BUFFALO
JULIAN DUGGER - DUAL PENN HILLS 2024 PITT
CADE YACAMELLI - ATH PENN TRAFF. 2022 WISCONSIN
TYREESE FEARBRY - DE PERRY 2022 KENTUCKY
DONOVAN MCMILLON - S PETERS TSP 2021 FLA / PITT
PHIL JURKOVEC - QB PINE-RICH. 2018 ND / BC/ PITT
KENNY WHITE - CB PINE-RICH. 2018 ?
RYAN CORY - OG PINE-RICH. 2024 WISCONSIN
JALEN KLEMM - OT PINE-RICH. 2022 KSU
JEREMIAH HASLEY - OLB PINE-RICH. 2022 DUKE
ANDREW KRISTOFIC - OT PINE-RICH. 2019 ND
MICHAEL KATIC - OG PINE-RICH. 2019 INDIANA
RAHMON HART - WR PINE-RICH. 2019 BALL STATE
TYLER KING - ILB PINE-RICH. 2019 NAVY
GRANT CARRIGAN - TE PINE-RICH. 2017 PITT
J. KALTENBERGER - OG SEN. VALLEY 2020 PURDUE
DINO TOMLIN - ATH SHADY SIDE 2019 MARYLAND / BC
SKYY MOORE - WR SHADY SIDE 2018 W. MICHIGAN
RYAN O'HAIR - OT SO. FAYETTE 2021 MIAMI OH
CRUCE BROOKINS - CB STEEL VALLEY 2023 PITT
PARIS FORD - S STEEL VALLEY 2017 PITT
DEWAYNE MURRAY - RB STEEL VALLEY 2017 ?
JORDAN MAYER - DE T. JEFFERSON 2023 WISCONSIN
DEVIN DANIELSON - DT T. JEFFERSON 2018 PITT
NOAH PALMER - DE T. JEFFERSON 2018 PITT / TRANS
ZANE ZANDIER T. JEFFERSON 2017 VA
AARON GUNN - OT UNION AREA 2021 LOUISVILLE
GABE HOUY - OT UP. ST CLAIR 2017 PITT
BRANDON FORD - OT UP. ST CLAIR 2016 PITT
ANDRE' PORTER - DT WASHINGTON 2021 MARYLAND
NAHKI JOHNSON - DE WEST MIFFLIN 2021 PITT
DAYON HAYES - DE WESTINGHOUSE 2020 PITT/COL
JOSH RAWLINGS - TE WOOD. HILLS 2020 VIRGINIA
MILES SANDERS - RB WOOD. HILLS 2016 PSU
JO-EL SHAW – RB - WOOD. HILLS 2016 SYR

Might just be missing him on this list, but wasn't there a dude who went to Rutgers like 2-3 years ago? Think he was a receiver from Washington County who got a Pitt offer after camping here.

Edit: Davoun Fuse - 6'4" DB who played on special teams last season and who I don't believe has played this season. So likely not the next Kyle Hamilton.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

For contrast, compare the First FAB 22 in 1980:

Rich Ingold – QB – Seton-LaSalle – South Carolina
Shawn Morton – QB – Bethel Park - Cincinnati
Ken Karcher – QB – Shaler – Notre Dame
Mike Huwar – QB – Frazier – PITT (Played DB)

Matt Stennett – RB – Shaler – PITT (played DB)
Darnell Stone – RB – Thomas Jefferson – PITT
Pedro Bowman – RB – Thomas Jefferson - Duquesne
Marlon McIntyre – RB – Belle-Vernon - PITT

Nick Merrick – WR – Seton-LaSalle – Virginia
Larry Miles – WR – Bethel Park – Maryland
Jonathan Hayes – WR – So. Fayette – Iowa

Bill Fralic – OL/DL – Penn Hills – PITT
Bob Schilken – OL/DL – Mt Lebanon – PITT
Eric Alwine – OL/DL – Greensburg CC – PSU
George Little – OL/DL – Duquesne – Iowa
Kevin Dorcak - OL/DL – Gateway – Lafayette
Stacy Burrell - OL/DL – Aliquippa – Kentucky

Cesar Aldisert – LB – Mt Lebanon – PITT
Mark Herrman – LB – New Brighton – Vanderbilt

Mark Hogan – DB – Brashear – Tennessee
Mark Kelso – DB – North Hills – William & Mary (Played in 4 Super Bowls)
Nathan Borders – DB – Riverside – Indiana

Nineteen P4 scholarships by today’s standards. Only a few non-Division I Scholarships. Not like today…

There were also 26 other players who were not on the FAB 22 list that got P4 scholarships. That’s a total of forty-five P4 scholarships given in one year from the WPIAL.

That's interesting. I mean Fralic was a monster, but other than Kelso, really very few of these guys did anything. Hayes did and played in the NFL. But the rest of these kids, even those who went to Pitt were nothing special.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

What I really don't get is if you are a RB, why the hell are you going to Penn State. I think Singleton is really good, but he gets what, 10 carries a game? The other back is also really good and they keep on recruiting these highly rated RB's, he gets like 3-5 carries a game, whey would that idiot stay there and not transfer?? Why would these RB's keep on committing there??

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

What I really don't get is if you are a RB, why the hell are you going to Penn State. I think Singleton is really good, but he gets what, 10 carries a game? The other back is also really good and they keep on recruiting these highly rated RB's, he gets like 3-5 carries a game, whey would that idiot stay there and not transfer?? Why would these RB's keep on committing there??

Hate to say it, but I think the new narrative is more like "why not?" You'll always have the experience of having been part of a big-time program. And if it doesn't work out, you can just transfer and schools like Pitt will welcome you with open arms.

 

[forbesfield]

I was gonna say -- I am surprised the Latrobe LB going to PSU didn't make this list. Did he have a bad season? Is he injured or something?

Seems like a lot more undecideds in comparison to years past. Is that because the high school recruiting landscape in college football has changed generally, with the limitless transfer portal and NIL results in decreased emphasis on high school kids? Or is there less talent in Western Pa? It's probably more likely a combination of both.

Tatsch had a pretty significant shoulder injury.

 

[Pittisit4me]

That's interesting. I mean Fralic was a monster, but other than Kelso, really very few of these guys did anything. Hayes did and played in the NFL. But the rest of these kids, even those who went to Pitt were nothing special.

Bob Schilken, Cesar Aldisert, and Marlon McIntyre all played quite a bit, or were starters for Pitt. They were good players who made an impact. There was definitely more talent back then.
Most of this year's fab 22 will be getting splinters in their ass up at state Penn. I am amazed at how willing these kids are to go to state Penn so they can be the next big thing to be fawned upon by 110,000 screaming nitwits only to be buried on the depth chart for 2 or 3 years before going elsewhere or just sticking it out for their degree. It's maddening. I mean, I'm not even suggesting Pitt is where they should go, but, most of them have other P4 offers. These kids just buy into what Terry Smith and The milk-dud are selling, only to be disappointed.
I have thought for a while that it is a bit of a game where these local recruits are the pawns in the game. I think the milk-dud loves coming to the Burgh and plucking these recruits from the Duzz, fully aware that very few if any are ever going to be real players for him.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

Edit: Davoun Fuse - 6'4" DB who played on special teams last season and who I don't believe has played this season. So likely not the next Kyle Hamilton.

If you can imagine this - Rutgers supposedly gave him a better NIL deal then PITT.

What I really don't get is if you are a RB, why the hell are you going to Penn State. I think Singleton is really good, but he gets what, 10 carries a game? The other back is also really good and they keep on recruiting these highly rated RB's, he gets like 3-5 carries a game, whey would that idiot stay there and not transfer?? Why would these RB's keep on committing there??

 

[steelcurtain55.]

I don't think he was gone regardless. Think he saw the offense and knew it wasn't going to be a good thing for him.

Marion would have thrown him the ball more or at least convinced Addison he would have.

Everything I've heard was quite the opposite.

Marion isn't really known for a prolific passing game. His offense is a running based offense. His main goal as he states is to get you out of 2 high and force you into 1 high.

 

[cashisking884]

What I really don't get is if you are a RB, why the hell are you going to Penn State.

These guys don’t want to be a workhorse RB anymore. The NFL no longer values that, and holds it against you when it comes time for that second contract.

The top RBs in the portal this year was the dude were Judkins and Martinez. Both went to schools with highly regarded returning RBs that were going to get a ton of touches.

That’s probably not an accident. During one of the Miami games this year the announcers were talking about how it was the returning starter for Miami that contacted Martinez and sold him on Miami.

A RB trying to get a dude to come join the team, knowing he would be surpassed on the depth chart if that dude did join the team, sounds insane. But that’s the RB position in 2024.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Tatsch had a pretty significant shoulder injury.

Shoulders are tough to recover from, especially LB's. Think that's what did Dave Adams in.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

WPIAL Players since Narduzzi took over. There ain't a whole lot of difference makers there if we're being honest. The best players in my opinion are in BOLD. Sorted by high school.

CAMERON LINDSEY - OLB ALIQUIPPA 2024 PITT
ZURIAH FISHER - OLB ALIQUIPPA 2020 PSU
MARLIN DEVONSHIRE - CB ALIQUIPPA 2019 KY / PITT
WILL GIPSON - WR ALIQUIPPA 2019 PITT / TRANS
KWANTEL RAINES - S ALIQUIPPA 2018 WVU / TRANS
KAEZON PUGH - OLB ALIQUIPPA 2016 PITT / TRANS
DORIEN FORD - DT BALDWIN 2021 PITT
JOSH HOUGH - RB BEAVER FALLS 2021 SYRACUSE
DONOVAN JETER - DT BEAVER FALLS 2017 MICH
BLAKE ZUBOVIC - DT BELLE VERNON 2018 PITT
JAMES GMITER - DT BETHEL PARK 2018 WVU
JASON CROSS - S BISH. CANAVIN 2024 WVU
TA'MERE ROBINSON - OLB BRASHEAR 2023 PSU
THERRAN COLEMAN - CB BRASHEAR 2016 PITT
JAKE KRADEL - OT BUTLER 2018 PITT
ANTHONY SPECA - ILB CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 PSU
COLE SULLIVAN - OLB CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 MICH
PETER GONZALEZ - WR CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 PSU
TY YUHAS - DE CEN. CATHOLIC 2024 PITT
DONOVAN HINISH - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2022 ND
ELLIOT DONALD - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2021 PITT
AARON BEATTY CEN. CATHOLIC 2020 N. CAROLINA
DAVID GREEN - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2018 PITT
C.J. THORPE - OG CEN. CATHOLIC 2017 PSU
DAVID ADAMS CEN. CATHOLIC 2017 ND / MEDICAL
KURT HINISH - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2017 ND
DAMAR HAMLIN - S CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 PITT
RASHAD WHEELER - DT CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 DT
BRICEN GARNER - S CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 PITT / TRANS
RONNIE JONES - RB CEN. CATHOLIC 2016 TOLEDO
SEAN FITZSIMMONS - DE CEN. VALLEY 2022 PITT
STEPHON HALL - S CEN. VALLEY 2021 PITT
LAMONT PAYNE - CB CHAR. VALLEY 2023 PSU
LAMONT WADE - S CLARION 2017 PSU
NOAH HAMLIN - WR CLARION 2017 CINN
AARON MATHEWS - ATH CLARION 2016 PITT
TJ BANKS - TE E. ALLEGHENY 2018 WVU / TRANS
KYI WRIGHT - OLB FARRELL 2019 PITT / TRANS
LOGAN THIMONS - ILB FREEPORT 2016 WVU
PATRICK BODY - ATH GATEWAY 2022 CIN / TRANS
DERRICK DAVIS - S GATEWAY 2021 LSU / PITT
TUI BROWN - ATH GATEWAY 2020 UCONN
COURTNEY JACKSON - WR GATEWAY 2019 SYRACUSE
AIDAN HOWARD - WR GATEWAY 2016 VA
KENNY ROBINSON - OLB IMANI CHRIS. 2017 WVU
SOL MORELAND - DT INMANI CHRIS. 2019 BALL STATE
BRANDON MOORE - OT KISKI AREA 2022 MIAMI OH
R. GALLAGHER - WR L. HIGHLANDS 2023 WVU
B. LOVELACE - OLB LEECHBURG 2023 PITT
MICHAEL CARMODY - OT MARS 2020 ND
ANTOINE COOK MCKEESPORT 2017 YSU
KHALEKE HUDSON - ATH MCKEESPORT 2016 MICH
TYLER SEAR - TE NESHANNOCK 2017 PITT / TRANS
MARCUS HOOKER - ATH NEW CASTLE 2018 OHIO ST / TRANS
GENO STONE - DB - NEW CASTLE 2017 IOWA
KHALIL DINKINS - TE N. ALLEGHENY 2021 PSU
JOEY PORTER JR. - CB N. ALLEGHENY 2019 PSU
JOSHUA LUGG - OT N. ALLEGHENY 2017 ND
GRIFFIN SESTILI - TE N. ALLEGHENY 2017 TEMPLE
JAKE LUGG - OG N. ALLEGHENY 2020 HARVARD
JACK SALOPEK - QB NORWIN 2020 W. MICHIGAN
JULIAN MAJOR - WR PENN HILLS 2018 MSU
RICK SQUIRES - ATH PENN HILLS 2017 BUFFALO
JULIAN DUGGER - DUAL PENN HILLS 2024 PITT
CADE YACAMELLI - ATH PENN TRAFF. 2022 WISCONSIN
TYREESE FEARBRY - DE PERRY 2022 KENTUCKY
DONOVAN MCMILLON - S PETERS TSP 2021 FLA / PITT
PHIL JURKOVEC - QB PINE-RICH. 2018 ND / BC/ PITT
KENNY WHITE - CB PINE-RICH. 2018 ?
RYAN CORY - OG PINE-RICH. 2024 WISCONSIN
JALEN KLEMM - OT PINE-RICH. 2022 KSU
JEREMIAH HASLEY - OLB PINE-RICH. 2022 DUKE
ANDREW KRISTOFIC - OT PINE-RICH. 2019 ND
MICHAEL KATIC - OG PINE-RICH. 2019 INDIANA
RAHMON HART - WR PINE-RICH. 2019 BALL STATE
TYLER KING - ILB PINE-RICH. 2019 NAVY
GRANT CARRIGAN - TE PINE-RICH. 2017 PITT
J. KALTENBERGER - OG SEN. VALLEY 2020 PURDUE
DINO TOMLIN - ATH SHADY SIDE 2019 MARYLAND / BC
SKYY MOORE - WR SHADY SIDE 2018 W. MICHIGAN
RYAN O'HAIR - OT SO. FAYETTE 2021 MIAMI OH
CRUCE BROOKINS - CB STEEL VALLEY 2023 PITT
PARIS FORD - S STEEL VALLEY 2017 PITT
DEWAYNE MURRAY - RB STEEL VALLEY 2017 ?
JORDAN MAYER - DE T. JEFFERSON 2023 WISCONSIN
DEVIN DANIELSON - DT T. JEFFERSON 2018 PITT
NOAH PALMER - DE T. JEFFERSON 2018 PITT / TRANS
ZANE ZANDIER T. JEFFERSON 2017 VA
AARON GUNN - OT UNION AREA 2021 LOUISVILLE
GABE HOUY - OT UP. ST CLAIR 2017 PITT
BRANDON FORD - OT UP. ST CLAIR 2016 PITT
ANDRE' PORTER - DT WASHINGTON 2021 MARYLAND
NAHKI JOHNSON - DE WEST MIFFLIN 2021 PITT
DAYON HAYES - DE WESTINGHOUSE 2020 PITT/COL
JOSH RAWLINGS - TE WOOD. HILLS 2020 VIRGINIA
MILES SANDERS - RB WOOD. HILLS 2016 PSU
JO-EL SHAW – RB - WOOD. HILLS 2016 SYR

Nice list, thanks for compiling. Probably would have bolded McMillon, he's had a nice career here. Kradel was hit or miss, but overall pretty solid, along with the BP lineman. For kids that left, I think Fearbry is seeing action, Dinkins and Wade were solid, not great at PSU. Same with Donovan Jeter at Michigan