5-7 Bowl teams
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I don't think any team that has less than 8 wins should be in a bowl. If a 6-6 or 7-5 team does get into a bowl, it's not a real bowl game. It's an exhibition between 2 mediocre teams that no one cares about other than the family and friends of the team and a few die hard fans.
But that's just my opinion and it's not the way things work now. This is professional college football now and it's all about TV and revenue and paying the players.
But that's just my opinion and it's not the way things work now. This is professional college football now and it's all about TV and revenue and paying the players.
I was going to say it would be funny if Pitt didnt get a bowl at 5-7 because their APR wasnt high enough when Pitt would rather have their players be surgeons than good at football
All bowl games are just dumb. They mean nothing other then an opportunity for some company to spend millions of dollars to get its name associated with it.
Yes, competitors always take the opportunity to compete. Always.
They are stupid meaningless exhibition games. They arent some type of reward. If we go 5-7 and we have the chance to play an exhibition game in some far-flung location on a Tuesday afternoon in front of 5000 people vs a G5 team, we should absolutely do it.
I would hope they would accept a bowl bid at 5-7, it's TV show for me and I'd watch it over watching the playoffs or the NY6 bowls.
If Pitt finishes 5-7, and doesn’t get a bowl ahead of other teams, then what the hell are we doing playing 11 Power 5 opponents?
It goes by APR not SOS. Last year 5-7 Rice got in because they are smart
This! Also, getting this team (particularly Veilleux) extra practices and game experience would be crucial for 2024.
I believe this year if there are not enough six win teams the first two teams on the list will be James Madison and Jacksonville State. Because they are new two FBS they are still ineligible for a bowl game, unless there are not enough six win teams. If there aren't and those two win six they will get bids.
James Madison already has six wins, so they would get one for sure. Jacksonville State has five, so surely they are going to get there as well.
Well said. I’m in a younger generation where bowls aren’t a special achievement anymore, but older generations always tell me that they miss the days of bowl games being the reward for a pretty good season. All about the money now
This is a big part of the reason I'm not excited at all about college football any longer. These "bowl" games are just advertising and exhibition games. In the past when they played real bowl games, they meant something and the teams that played in them actually had better than winning records. If you got in a bowl with 8 wins, you were lucky. Now, they're talking about a 5 win team getting in???? That's just dumb. Besides, now these players are getting paid and are professionals. They better win more than 5 games for the money they're getting paid.
I got an idea. Cut the number of bowl games in half and maybe this problem of undeserving teams getting in will go away.
The Peach Bowl didn't' exist in 1963, it started in 1968, there was only 8 bowls that season.
In the past, the players wanted to be surgeons and that is a much more appropriate and noble profession than trying to be good at football. That should be the goal. But it isn't any longer. These players are professionals now and they play football for money. The hell with getting an education that will actually help them make a living after college. 98% of them will never play football after college. What will they have once they graduate except some permanent physical damage to their bodies and no way of paying the rent?
If I had the choice of being great at football or being a surgeon, I'd pick being a surgeon hands down. It's not even close.
And that's fine, I love my own personal TV shows and I don't care if they mean anything beyond the 3-4 hours of viewing entertainment it gives ME, I also don't care if anyone else cares about it, if the Pitt game is lowest rated on the day, I watched the entire game beginning to end and zero minutes of the top-rated games.
It all depends, if you're so good at football that you can get to be a top draft pick, or sign a free agent contract after 3-4 years, you could make more by age 30 than a surgeon makes in several lifetimes, of course the odds of being that good are slim, and yes, it really is about the biggest money.
I believe it was the GAtor Bowl that the team turned down.
There's a few different versions of the story on what bowls they turned down and when. With the Gator it might have been turned down prior to the JFK Assassination, with Pitt hoping for a Cotton Bowl bid vs. #1 Texas if Navy lost to Army and Pitt beat Penn State. Or Pitt turned down the trip to Jacksonville after that fateful day in Dallas with the hope that Navy would turn down the Cotton Bowl bid. I think the players said no to either the Liberty Bowl that was played in Philly back then or the Sun Bowl.
Sun Bowl, but due to the one week delay in the season ending Penn State game due to the assassination of President Kennedy, the Sun Bowl did not want to wait to see if Pitt beat Penn State (which it did), and instead offered the bid to Oregon, which accepted.
The Gator Bowl reps (now called TaxSlayer Bowl) were on hand Saturday, obviously rooting for Pitt to rattle off 7 straight so they can select them. What a gig those guys have.
Bowl games have always been advertising and exhibition games. It's just that for a really long time men in really ugly blazers were able to convince a lot of people that they were something that they never were.
Invited? Go!
Get our young players all the reps they can. Bowl season is like an extra spring practice season in December. Two extra weeks and an exhibition game. Always worth it.
Get our young players all the reps they can. Bowl season is like an extra spring practice season in December. Two extra weeks and an exhibition game. Always worth it.
I believe those two would still require a waiver. (I'd bet on it being granted, though.)
Agreed, that was my point, players should be enjoying the experience of competing, and fans should be enjoying watching, that is College Football, 80/100 times each week.
Under condition C of bylaw 18.7.2.1.3, JMU can play in a bowl game if there aren’t enough “deserving” teams — those that have won a number of games against FBS opponents equal to or greater than the number of its losses — because it’s in the second year of its transition.
And bowl game fill-ins aren’t unprecedented: Just last season, Rice, which went 5-7 and therefore wasn’t a “deserving” bowl team as outlined in the bylaws, still played in the LendingTree Bowl because there weren’t enough six-win teams, and it had the highest Academic Progress Rate (APR) of five-win teams.
JMU’s condition to play in a bowl game, C, is given priority over Rice’s 2022 condition, D.
Or in other words, James Madison (and Jacksonville State if they win one more game) will be higher on the list of bowl fill ins than the 5-7 team with the best APR.
You have shattered my dreams of going to Mobile in December.
My bad I read they turned down a bid. I can’t remember which one. But I think that was a mistake. Mainly because there was only a few and it was big deal to play in one.
FWIW you are right Peach Bowl started in 1968. But the Tribune did write it was the Peach Bowl. Wonder what bowl it was they turned down.
Not all bowl games are dumb…..just the second, third and fourth tier bowls played played in places like Detroit and baseball stadiums in freezing weather( is this a reward or Punishment)….yea, the bowls in which Pitt unfortunately typically plays . Still a lot of national recognition and pub associated the big 6 bowls
There's the CFP:
The other NY6 bowls = NCAAT
Outback, Capital One, Music City, Alamo = NIT
Detroit, Birmingham, Fenway, etc = CBI
