He posted this seconds after UCLA went ahead of Pitt 35-34 with 34 seconds left...
A Great Tweet from Zeise after UCLA scores go ahead TD
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Meanwhile, my pessimistic mind immediately went to that stupid bowl game against Houston which Pitt lost… 35-34. Feels amazing to be on the winning side in a crazy bowl game for once.
It’s astonishing to me that the guy gets so much hate on these boards.
It’s amazing how a good number of individuals or outlets that cover Pitt get so much hate on this board when at the same time, the same complain that Pitt doesn’t get enough coverage by the local media.
Zeise had a 50-50 chance of getting it right. Either Patti was going to lead Pitt to the winning score or he wasn't. Good odds for him to post that.
But here’s the point…he’s posting. A majority of the local media could care less about Pitt. Zeise does. People may not always like what he says, but he’s not going to sugar coat things when they aren’t going well. And that should be ok.
There's only 2 outcomes. And Patti delivered on the most desirable outcome, fortunately. Basic math.
You sure it was 50-50?
I find him difficult to listen to anymore. No hate, and I think his opinions are often correct. Just not a very good radio host.
I agree. It is refreshing that he's not a hoopie or nitter lover like the rest of the local media. Now all we need is for the nitters to get steamrolled by Utah and all will be right with the world, since the hoopies are non-existent and getting worse.
Now you’re stumbling onto something there. I definitely don’t hate on him but I did always think he had far from the optimum voice/speech for a radio talk show personality.
I dunno. He just adds no value. He has worse insights than most posters on the board especially when it comes to hoops.
Actually, that's a good point. The likelihood of Patti doing what he did would fall under the category of highly unlikely. Like maybe 5% chance.
But there really wasn't a 50-50 chance of Zeise getting it right because there was not a 50-50 chance of Pitt winning the game ...... with the ball on our 25 yard line, 34 seconds to play, and no time outs the chances of Pitt winning were less than 10 % (maybe less than 5%) and the chances of losing greater than 90 % ..... Zeise said we would win and so he had a greater than 90% chance of being wrong ..... he ended up being right (less than 10% chance he would be right ) ..... I think that is the math.
You’re either struck by lightning or you’re not. 50/50 chance.
I bought a powerball ticket. So I either win powerball, build an on campus stadium, and fund an ice hockey program at Pitt, or my ticket is a loser and I don’t. 50/50 chance.
I bought a powerball ticket. So I either win powerball, build an on campus stadium, and fund an ice hockey program at Pitt, or my ticket is a loser and I don’t. 50/50 chance.
ESPN Stat Cast probability of Pitt winning after UCLA's final TD was practically 100% in UCLA's favor.
I am sure these probabilities are based on historical analytics.
I would say Zeise went out on a limb and was very prophetic. My guess is the situation Pitt was in doesn't result in a win more than 5% of the time.
I am sure these probabilities are based on historical analytics.
I would say Zeise went out on a limb and was very prophetic. My guess is the situation Pitt was in doesn't result in a win more than 5% of the time.
There’s a story there somewhere. I seem to remember a program director of his not being a fan and telling him he’s got the worst voice and cadence he’s ever heard on radio. And he wasn’t wrong. I think listeners have to accept him for what he is and that’s an unpolished radio personality who sounds more like a guy you’d talk to on the bar stool next to you. I get how that might be difficult listening for some. His radio bosses stuck with him and his unconventional style and somehow he parlayed that into a bigger gig.
I’m just happy hearing someone who actually wants to talk about Pitt
Yes but my 12 years in South Carolina public schools tells me that even though there are two outcomes, the probability of one occurring over the other is not equal. For example, if I were to have faced Nolan Ryan throwing a fastball in our prime(s). I could swing and miss or I could swing and hit the ball, but that does not mean if i swing the odds are 50% I will hit the ball. See my point?
Yes, I acknowledged above that our actual probability of winning was probably closer to 5%. I do see your point.
Playing behind one of the best Pitt quarterbacks teaches you a lot. Calm under pressure, not giving into low chances, and just make plays to keep the team alive. A lot of what we saw was very Pickett like.
Didn’t he used to be better though? I mean, less umms and ahhs and more able to string together complete sentences? Or am I imagining it?
Also for a while it seemed like one time a night his lead in music would play for an entire segment. I don’t know if he was in the bathroom or what. I found it slightly humorous but again, not easy to listen to.
He would be right or he would be wrong...ie 50-50...only possible outcome based on what he said . Game dynamics and probabilities of victory or Nolan Ryan analogies have nothing to do with it...
That's not how anything works. Just because there are two outcomes doesn't mean they have to be equal probabilities. That's an absolutely ridiculous hill to die on because then you could say that literally any outcome is a 50-50.
I used to enjoy listening to him occasionally. One of the few things I’d skip over from Sirius/XM once in a while. As FK said he’s not cookie cutter or typical radio guy but he was fair and even keeled. But it seemed to me he was starting to adopt that outrage Skip Bayless/Screamin’ A persona and it got tiresome quickly.
Pittsburgh Sports Media
Ron Cook - PSU apologist
Paul Alexander - PSU grad and fanboy
Mark Kaboly - Digs on Pitt whenever possible
Chris Adamski - PSU fanboy
Mark Madden - Hates Narduzzi and Now Pickett
Rob Biertemfel - PSU fanboy
Adam Crowley - WV fanboy
Zeise supports Pitt and we need all the Pitt people possible in the Pittsburgh media.
Ron Cook - PSU apologist
Paul Alexander - PSU grad and fanboy
Mark Kaboly - Digs on Pitt whenever possible
Chris Adamski - PSU fanboy
Mark Madden - Hates Narduzzi and Now Pickett
Rob Biertemfel - PSU fanboy
Adam Crowley - WV fanboy
Zeise supports Pitt and we need all the Pitt people possible in the Pittsburgh media.
People hate on Filliponi and for good reason but he loves Kenny and embraces Pitt as an outsider (except against cuse). I think it’s him at least. I rarely listen unless a Pitt or pirates game is on
Or because he just sucks.
I’ve not liked him since he made a fool of himself fawning over Stallings and how fun his offense would be to watch.
I'm reminded of Wlat's quote: "Hindsight is 50/50".
I think he falls asleep. Seriously. There was a tweet a couple weeks ago where they showed the studio cam and after a few minutes a producer had to run into the studio and wake him up. It was hilarious.
Larry King used to do that on his CNN show. He took these little power naps during commercial breaks. But he always had someone waking him up.
Really? I do not listen to his radio show, but what I read in his columns is hard to quantify politically. He seems to pride himself in not following any particular political line. People on here bash the "media" all the time, for just about everything.
Stallings was an uncharismatic guy who was a crony hire. We know how it worked out. But he didn’t get a chance. That’s not something to hold against Zeise. It’s not his fault Stallings didn’t have a PG to run an offense that first year, a way too green PG the 2nd, and was gone by the 3rd. Nor should we expect our media personalities to be experts.
Everyday on this board we hear Madden said this and Cook said that. So what. They’re just personalities with opinions who aren’t always right. But if you want to say Zeise sucks because he sounds like an idiot, that holds some water. Lol.
He’s pretty opinionated on twitter. And his 1020 radio show is now political. He doesn’t follow one party line but he has strong opinions that do rub the ultrapolitical weenies the wrong way.
