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QuitCallingMeWanny said:
I for one cannot wait for the blow by blow, hour by hour critique of the Network by SeanMillerFan
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To be fair, ACC Network Extra is just ESPN3 with a new name and new graphics. There is literally no difference in a Pitt vs UVa soccer game that aired on ESPN3 last year and one that will air on ACC Network Extra this year. Everything is the same, even down to logging onto the watchESPN app to watch it.

In the future, you may see this ACC Network Extra as its own app, accessible on different platforms independently of ESPN3. As Swofford said, it has the ability to "live on its own." But right now, its just a name and graphics change.
 
724crew said:
So no football or basketball on the online network?
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Raycom is still syndication until 2019 when the linear channel launches. So whatever games they don't pick up will likely end up on the ACC Network extra channel.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
To be fair, ACC Network Extra is just ESPN3 with a new name and new graphics. There is literally no difference in a Pitt vs UVa soccer game that aired on ESPN3 last year and one that will air on ACC Network Extra this year. Everything is the same, even down to logging onto the watchESPN app to watch it.

In the future, you may see this ACC Network Extra as its own app, accessible on different platforms independently of ESPN3. As Swofford said, it has the ability to "live on its own." But right now, its just a name and graphics change.
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I'd compare it more to sec network plus now. It offers far more events than espn3 ever did.

The mechanics are the same but the content will be much more robust.
 
Do I need the ESPN app for this? I tried it once, but couldn't get live content to play. Only crap I already seen. Not sure if it has anything to do with my satellite package or what. I have dish network and get ESPN, espn2, and ESPNU. Would love to stream some live sports if I can, but not sure it will happen.
 
gourdnibbler said:
Do I need the ESPN app for this? I tried it once, but couldn't get live content to play. Only crap I already seen. Not sure if it has anything to do with my satellite package or what. I have dish network and get ESPN, espn2, and ESPNU. Would love to stream some live sports if I can, but not sure it will happen.
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You need the watchespn app. When you log on you give them your provider and account number. Once you are in you will see a list of ESPN channels.

The ACC Network extra is between the sec network plus and lhn.

The list of live events are in the link above.
 
ThePanthers said:
You need the watchespn app. When you log on you give them your provider and account number. Once you are in you will see a list of ESPN channels.

The ACC Network extra is between the sec network plus and lhn.

The list of live events are in the link above.
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Well, I'd agree that ACCNE is the same as SECNP, but its certainly much different than LHN, which is an actual TV channel.

I wouldn't be jumping for joy about this great "commitment" to ACC olympic sports though. Yes, there will be more olympic sports games on ACCNE/ESPN3 but that comes with a huge asterisk. I say that because I put on Pitt's "debut" on ACCNE, which was a women's soccer match between Pitt and Duquesne. There were literally no announcers. There were no graphics (no idea of score or time) and only one camera. Honestly, if I had a tripod for my Sony handycam, they could have had me do the game and upload the video to ACCNE.

When I look at the men's soccer schedule, I see that most of their games are on ACCNE/ESPN3, up from about 2 or 3 a year. So, while this sounds great, I'd expect the same "broadcast" for most of them, an intern with a Handycam.

This isn't to say I dont like ACCNE or dont think its a good idea. I think these games should be broadcast. But I'm just saying lets not make ACCNE something that it isnt. Right now, its just a rebrand of ESPN3 content with more olympic sports, probably a lot of it with no announcers, graphics, and 1 camera. In the future, it will probably be much better and I'd expect a standalone separate ACCNE app once the real ACCN launches which cord-cutters can pay for on Roku or Google Chrome or whatever but right now, ACCNE is no more than having all ACC content organized under the ACCNE option on ESPN3/watchESPN.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Well, I'd agree that ACCNE is the same as SECNP, but its certainly much different than LHN, which is an actual TV channel.

I wouldn't be jumping for joy about this great "commitment" to ACC olympic sports though. Yes, there will be more olympic sports games on ACCNE/ESPN3 but that comes with a huge asterisk. I say that because I put on Pitt's "debut" on ACCNE, which was a women's soccer match between Pitt and Duquesne. There were literally no announcers. There were no graphics (no idea of score or time) and only one camera. Honestly, if I had a tripod for my Sony handycam, they could have had me do the game and upload the video to ACCNE.

When I look at the men's soccer schedule, I see that most of their games are on ACCNE/ESPN3, up from about 2 or 3 a year. So, while this sounds great, I'd expect the same "broadcast" for most of them, an intern with a Handycam.

This isn't to say I dont like ACCNE or dont think its a good idea. I think these games should be broadcast. But I'm just saying lets not make ACCNE something that it isnt. Right now, its just a rebrand of ESPN3 content with more olympic sports, probably a lot of it with no announcers, graphics, and 1 camera. In the future, it will probably be much better and I'd expect a standalone separate ACCNE app once the real ACCN launches which cord-cutters can pay for on Roku or Google Chrome or whatever but right now, ACCNE is no more than having all ACC content organized under the ACCNE option on ESPN3/watchESPN.
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Well, the new ACC Network and LHN, etc are just a rebrand of ESPN then if that is how you are looking at it.

It is up to each individual school to produce these items and hopefully as time goes on, Pitt can provide announcers, etc. These things take time and money and it is new to many schools.

Having a significant amount of content increase on this channel is a big plus IMO and it's easily accessed.

I don't think you are going to see a separate app for this as it is part of the ESPN family of networks. You will have both the ACC Network (once it goes live in 2019) and the ACC Network Plus listed with the ESPN family of networks on Watch ESPN just like you do with the SEC Network, SEC Network Plus, and LHN.

ESPN owns and runs this. It is easily accessed via Roku and other streaming devices via the WatchESPN app.
 
The announcement came what, a month ago? I'd likely give most of the ACC a full year - then let's see how they're doing. I remember the SEC network having many of the same issues with their early olympic sports stuff. It's all an arms race, everyone will start getting their collective junk together now.

Sean Miller Fan said:
Well, I'd agree that ACCNE is the same as SECNP, but its certainly much different than LHN, which is an actual TV channel.

I wouldn't be jumping for joy about this great "commitment" to ACC olympic sports though. Yes, there will be more olympic sports games on ACCNE/ESPN3 but that comes with a huge asterisk. I say that because I put on Pitt's "debut" on ACCNE, which was a women's soccer match between Pitt and Duquesne. There were literally no announcers. There were no graphics (no idea of score or time) and only one camera. Honestly, if I had a tripod for my Sony handycam, they could have had me do the game and upload the video to ACCNE.

When I look at the men's soccer schedule, I see that most of their games are on ACCNE/ESPN3, up from about 2 or 3 a year. So, while this sounds great, I'd expect the same "broadcast" for most of them, an intern with a Handycam.

This isn't to say I dont like ACCNE or dont think its a good idea. I think these games should be broadcast. But I'm just saying lets not make ACCNE something that it isnt. Right now, its just a rebrand of ESPN3 content with more olympic sports, probably a lot of it with no announcers, graphics, and 1 camera. In the future, it will probably be much better and I'd expect a standalone separate ACCNE app once the real ACCN launches which cord-cutters can pay for on Roku or Google Chrome or whatever but right now, ACCNE is no more than having all ACC content organized under the ACCNE option on ESPN3/watchESPN.
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Sean Miller Fan said:
Well, I'd agree that ACCNE is the same as SECNP, but its certainly much different than LHN, which is an actual TV channel.

I wouldn't be jumping for joy about this great "commitment" to ACC olympic sports though. Yes, there will be more olympic sports games on ACCNE/ESPN3 but that comes with a huge asterisk. I say that because I put on Pitt's "debut" on ACCNE, which was a women's soccer match between Pitt and Duquesne. There were literally no announcers. There were no graphics (no idea of score or time) and only one camera. Honestly, if I had a tripod for my Sony handycam, they could have had me do the game and upload the video to ACCNE.

When I look at the men's soccer schedule, I see that most of their games are on ACCNE/ESPN3, up from about 2 or 3 a year. So, while this sounds great, I'd expect the same "broadcast" for most of them, an intern with a Handycam.

This isn't to say I dont like ACCNE or dont think its a good idea. I think these games should be broadcast. But I'm just saying lets not make ACCNE something that it isnt. Right now, its just a rebrand of ESPN3 content with more olympic sports, probably a lot of it with no announcers, graphics, and 1 camera. In the future, it will probably be much better and I'd expect a standalone separate ACCNE app once the real ACCN launches which cord-cutters can pay for on Roku or Google Chrome or whatever but right now, ACCNE is no more than having all ACC content organized under the ACCNE option on ESPN3/watchESPN.
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The only person making ACC Extra into something it's not is you. Your criticism about ACCE is unfounded, because SEC+ is set up the same way. Everybody knew from the very beginning that the ACC network was going to be set up like the SEC network, hence ACCE would be the same as SEC+. You can't criticize ACCE for not being something it was never purported to be in the first place.
 
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ThePanthers said:
Well, the new ACC Network and LHN, etc are just a rebrand of ESPN then if that is how you are looking at it.

It is up to each individual school to produce these items and hopefully as time goes on, Pitt can provide announcers, etc. These things take time and money and it is new to many schools.

Having a significant amount of content increase on this channel is a big plus IMO and it's easily accessed.

I don't think you are going to see a separate app for this as it is part of the ESPN family of networks. You will have both the ACC Network (once it goes live in 2019) and the ACC Network Plus listed with the ESPN family of networks on Watch ESPN just like you do with the SEC Network, SEC Network Plus, and LHN.

ESPN owns and runs this. It is easily accessed via Roku and other streaming devices via the WatchESPN app.
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ACCN and LHN are actual TV channels with their own identity so its more than ESPN rebranding ESPN3 ACC games as ACCNE. I mean you are literally getting the games from the same source (watchESPN app). If the ACC Network was only accessed on ESPN or ESPN2 then that also would have been a rebrand and nothing very significant.

I also disagree about there eventually being a separatrle app for ACCNE. ESPN is going the HBO route and will be offering their networks to cord cutters for a subscription and there was an article about them creating niche apps for things like Cricket, MMA, rugby, etc. Swofford even said at the presser that it will have the ability to "live on its own." So cord-cutting streamers could pay say $20 per month for ESPN and ESPN2, maybe $5 per month for the college sports channels (ESPNU, LHN, SECN, ACCN) or a college sports package for lets say $10. Maybe ESPNews costs you $.50 per month. The tennis app costs 50 cents, the rugby app 50 cents. Or you get the entire ESPN app family for $40 just to throw out a number.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
ACCN and LHN are actual TV channels with their own identity so its more than ESPN rebranding ESPN3 ACC games as ACCNE. I mean you are literally getting the games from the same source (watchESPN app). If the ACC Network was only accessed on ESPN or ESPN2 then that also would have been a rebrand and nothing very significant.

I also disagree about there eventually being a separatrle app for ACCNE. ESPN is going the HBO route and will be offering their networks to cord cutters for a subscription and there was an article about them creating niche apps for things like Cricket, MMA, rugby, etc. Swofford even said at the presser that it will have the ability to "live on its own." So cord-cutting streamers could pay say $20 per month for ESPN and ESPN2, maybe $5 per month for the college sports channels (ESPNU, LHN, SECN, ACCN) or a college sports package for lets say $10. Maybe ESPNews costs you $.50 per month. The tennis app costs 50 cents, the rugby app 50 cents. Or you get the entire ESPN app family for $40 just to throw out a number.
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The ACC Network Extra is it's own channel per the WatchESPN app as it lists ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3, SECN, SECNPlus, LHN, ESPNNews, etc. ESPN3 is still there and listed. There is no difference.

Maybe one day they will go the route of charging extra, but I'm sure they will package them all just like they do with the linear channels to get maximum value.

But right now, that is not the age we live in yet.

I'm gong to let the experts that actually know the business decide what is best. They seem to have done a pretty good job at it.
 
topdecktiger said:
The only person making ACC Extra into something it's not is you. Your criticism about ACCE is unfounded, because SEC+ is set up the same way. Everybody knew from the very beginning that the ACC network was going to be set up like the SEC network, hence ACCE would be the same as SEC+. You can't criticize ACCE for not being something it was never purported to be in the first place.
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I am not criticizing ACCNE. I think its great. I am criticizing the fact that some people think its something different. The ACC has had "ACC Network Extra" for many years, it just wasn't listed as an official "channel" on the watchESPN channel list.

Right now, you can watch a good amount of Cricket on ESPN3. If tomorrow, ESPN launches "Cricket Extra" and calls it a channel, that doesn't make it new or different, they just organized all the Cricket under the "Cricket Extra" heading.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
I am not criticizing ACCNE. I think its great. I am criticizing the fact that some people think its something different. The ACC has had "ACC Network Extra" for many years, it just wasn't listed as an official "channel" on the watchESPN channel list.

Right now, you can watch a good amount of Cricket on ESPN3. If tomorrow, ESPN launches "Cricket Extra" and calls it a channel, that doesn't make it new or different, they just organized all the Cricket under the "Cricket Extra" heading.
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People currently watch ACC football games on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU. The ACC Network channel will just be a reorganization of that with more coverage, just like ACC Network Extra vs ESPN3.
 
ThePanthers said:
People currently watch ACC football games on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU. The ACC Network channel will just be a reorganization of that with more coverage, just like ACC Network Extra vs ESPN3.
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If you wanted to watch Pitt vs YSU last year, you went onto espn3.com or the watchESPN app. If you want to watch Pitt vs Nova this year, you log onto espn3.com or the watch ESPN app. The game will appear and you click to watch without ever having to see the ACC Network Extra heading. 95% of people will watch that game wondering what the difference is between ESPN3 and watchESPN.

In 2021, if you want to watch Pitt vs YSU, you have to find channel 845 on your cable system. Next to channel 845, there is the ACCN logo. It is an entirely different channel, not a rebrand of ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU games. People will KNOW it is an actual TV channel. As I said, a straight rebrand would have been calling Penn State @ Pitt an ACCN game on ABC.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
If you wanted to watch Pitt vs YSU last year, you went onto espn3.com or the watchESPN app. If you want to watch Pitt vs Nova this year, you log onto espn3.com or the watch ESPN app. The game will appear and you click to watch without ever having to see the ACC Network Extra heading. 95% of people will watch that game wondering what the difference is between ESPN3 and watchESPN.

In 2021, if you want to watch Pitt vs YSU, you have to find channel 845 on your cable system. Next to channel 845, there is the ACCN logo. It is an entirely different channel, not a rebrand of ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU games. People will KNOW it is an actual TV channel. As I said, a straight rebrand would have been calling Penn State @ Pitt an ACCN game on ABC.
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This is an entirely different streaming channel as you will no longer go to ESPN3 via the WatchESPN app. You will go to the ACC Network Extra channel on there. It is dedicated. You click on an entirely different channel logo than ESPN3. ESPN3 still exist as a different streaming channel.

I don't know what you don't get. I'm done arguing about this if you are that f'ing dense.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
I am not criticizing ACCNE. I think its great. I am criticizing the fact that some people think its something different. The ACC has had "ACC Network Extra" for many years, it just wasn't listed as an official "channel" on the watchESPN channel list.

Right now, you can watch a good amount of Cricket on ESPN3. If tomorrow, ESPN launches "Cricket Extra" and calls it a channel, that doesn't make it new or different, they just organized all the Cricket under the "Cricket Extra" heading.
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It is different, in a couple of significant ways. There is content on ACC Extra that was not previously available on ESPN3. There were only a limited amount of ACC games on ESPN3. There is much more on ACC Extra. That's because of the other difference. Previously, the games on ESPN3 were actually produced by ESPN. Now, many of the games are actually produced by the schools (again, which is exactly like with SEC Plus). This allows for content to be included that otherwise wouldn't be available.

Sean Miller Fan said:
If you wanted to watch Pitt vs YSU last year, you went onto espn3.com or the watchESPN app. If you want to watch Pitt vs Nova this year, you log onto espn3.com or the watch ESPN app. The game will appear and you click to watch without ever having to see the ACC Network Extra heading. 95% of people will watch that game wondering what the difference is between ESPN3 and watchESPN.

In 2021, if you want to watch Pitt vs YSU, you have to find channel 845 on your cable system. Next to channel 845, there is the ACCN logo. It is an entirely different channel, not a rebrand of ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU games. People will KNOW it is an actual TV channel. As I said, a straight rebrand would have been calling Penn State @ Pitt an ACCN game on ABC.
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You are focusing on the football games. From Day 1, it has been well-documented that ACC Extra is focused on Olympic sports, not football. Football and basketball, which are the main draws, will primarily be on the linear network, along with "feature" Olympic games. That's been the plan from Day 1, and nobody has said otherwise.

You are wrong about your final point. All the games are now labeled "ACC Extra," not ESPN3, just as is SEC Plus. Again, there is no reason for you to criticize the network, or other posters, when the SEC has EXACTLY the same thing. Funny how in 3 years I've never heard you mention this criticism of SEC Plus. It's only with the ACC that it comes up. As another poster said earlier, you just have to have something to complain about.
 
Top Deck has this right. The one giant difference you'll notice is volume of games. Yeah, some of the quality will blow at first, but it's going to take some schools a long time to ramp up their equipment. Pitt produces games for ESPN3, they produced most of the non-conference home basketball games last year I believe - just like many other ACC schools (tiger correct me if I'm wrong on this). They'll be fine overall. But I'll bet you Pitt isn't prepared to offer every single olympic sports event at that level of quality, and I'm sure they'll get there in a year or two. As I think I said above, some of the stuff on the SEC network in year one was literally unwatchable to casual fans, and even now you'll find games that don't have announcers, only one camera, etc.
 
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