Adam Silver

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Why does he look like an extra from Schindler's List?

Adam, eat a friggin cheeseburger or a pizza once in awhile. My god.

He's 57 going on 77.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

True but I love his in-season tournament idea. I wished I came up with it. It totally sounds like something I would. I would full "FA Cup" though. Lakers playing at the Erie Bayhawks in the 1st Round for example.

30 NBA teams, 30 G League teams, the Canadien league champ, Puerto Rican league champ, 2 play-in winners from other pro/semi-pro leagues.

Final Four to take place after NBA Finals.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Why does he look like an extra from Schindler's List?

Adam, eat a friggin cheeseburger or a pizza once in awhile. My god.

He's 57 going on 77.

He looks like Bob Smizik from the neck up. A little less hair.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

He looks like Bob Smizik from the neck up. A little less hair.

But Smizik is like 77 right?

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

But Smizik is like 77 right?

I agree with you. He isn’t winning over the ladies with his looks.

 

[Pitt-Chains]

But Smizik is like 77 right?

And a dick...

 

[Pitt-Chains]

I agree with you. He isn’t winning over the ladies with his looks.

But Jerry she's bald, bald Jerry..

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Seriously, is he sick?

 

[4Mark_Marty]

But Jerry she's bald, bald Jerry..

Elaine: Do you see the irony here? You're rejecting somebody because they're bald....
George: How So?
Elaine: YOU’RE BALD!!!

 

[below0w]

True but I love his in-season tournament idea. I wished I came up with it. It totally sounds like something I would. I would full "FA Cup" though. Lakers playing at the Erie Bayhawks in the 1st Round for example.

30 NBA teams, 30 G League teams, the Canadien league champ, Puerto Rican league champ, 2 play-in winners from other pro/semi-pro leagues.

Final Four to take place after NBA Finals.

You clearly don't understand how the FA Cup works if you want the Lakers playing in the first round. The big teams don't enter the competition until the 3rd round proper (which is the 7th round overall). That's 4 full months into the competition. Obviously, there are differences of scale between the two leagues, but that's also the biggest reason why this idea won't work. You need to let the minnows play each other and allow for the opportunity that a handful of smaller clubs will play into form and have some momentum going into the later stages. There's also the simple fact that a side from League One or the Championship is absolutely capable of beating a Premier League side, but a G League team will never beat an NBA team. There's no drama when there are no stakes, it's just a de facto competition between 30 NBA teams every year. The only interesting variation of this idea would involve Euroleague teams, but there are a host of different reasons for why that'd never happen.

 

[bayardstreet]

Looks like he just got off of a space ship. Wild

speaking of China, seems like 5 years ago that the Houston GM made the comments about China and human rights that ended up costing the NBA 54 trillion dollars or whatever.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

You clearly don't understand how the FA Cup works if you want the Lakers playing in the first round. The big teams don't enter the competition until the 3rd round proper (which is the 7th round overall). That's 4 full months into the competition. Obviously, there are differences of scale between the two leagues, but that's also the biggest reason why this idea won't work. You need to let the minnows play each other and allow for the opportunity that a handful of smaller clubs will play into form and have some momentum going into the later stages. There's also the simple fact that a side from League One or the Championship is absolutely capable of beating a Premier League side, but a G League team will never beat an NBA team. There's no drama when there are no stakes, it's just a de facto competition between 30 NBA teams every year. The only interesting variation of this idea would involve Euroleague teams, but there are a host of different reasons for why that'd never happen.

I am well aware of how the FA Cup works. I also know its impossible to have a tournament of like 1000 American basketball teams. My FA Cup comment was in reference to lower division teams playing top division teams. Also, considering NBA teams would sit their top players for the early rounds, a G League team playing at home would win 1 or 2 games some years. It would be awesome to watch that type of 1 and Done drama.

 

[below0w]

I am well aware of how the FA Cup works. I also know its impossible to have a tournament of like 1000 American basketball teams. My FA Cup comment was in reference to lower division teams playing top division teams. Also, considering NBA teams would sit their top players for the early rounds, a G League team playing at home would win 1 or 2 games some years. It would be awesome to watch that type of 1 and Done drama.

Even if NBA teams rested their star players, the benches are short enough that you'd still have lineups that would smoke every single G League team. It is absolutely hilarious to me that you wish you came up with this idiotic idea.

 

[TreesHero]

Adam Silver = Nosferatu

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Even if NBA teams rested their star players, the benches are short enough that you'd still have lineups that would smoke every single G League team. It is absolutely hilarious to me that you wish you came up with this idiotic idea.

I am sorry but if the worst NBA teams went on the road and sat a few of their best players, they would lose to G-league teams once in awhile. It would happen.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I am sorry but if the worst NBA teams went on the road and sat a few of their best players, they would lose to G-league teams once in awhile. It would happen.

And just imagine the throngs of television viewers who would do anything to not miss watching the Pistons playing without their best players take on the Fort Wayne Mad Ants. Talk about must see TV!

Move over MASH finale, it's time to make room for the epic collision of the Pistons and the Mad Ants!

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

And just imagine the throngs of television viewers who would do anything to not miss watching the Pistons playing without their best players take on the Fort Wayne Mad Ants. Talk about must see TV!

Exactly, that would be appointment television just like the FA Cup early rounds when all of England stops and watches and hopes a "minnow" can knock off one of the sharks....and it happens. Also similar to people watching 1 vs 16 or 2 vs 15 NCAAT games. Sports drama at its best. It would be absolutely fantastic.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Exactly, that would be appointment television just like the FA Cup early rounds when all of England stops and watches and hopes a "minnow" can knock off one of the sharks....and it happens. Also similar to people watching 1 vs 16 or 2 vs 15 NCAAT games. Sports drama at its best. It would be absolutely fantastic.

You should talk less
Much less

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

You should talk less
Much less

That is what they told Adam Silver and Jim Delaney when they came up with their wacky ideas. We are visionaries.

 

[below0w]

Exactly, that would be appointment television just like the FA Cup early rounds when all of England stops and watches and hopes a "minnow" can knock off one of the sharks....and it happens. Also similar to people watching 1 vs 16 or 2 vs 15 NCAAT games. Sports drama at its best. It would be absolutely fantastic.

All of England doesn't stop and watch the early rounds of the FA Cup because: 1) most of the games aren't televised and 2) most people wouldn't care even if they were because the big clubs don't play. Networks only pick a certain number of matches to broadcast and they tend to just follow the big clubs once they enter the competition, at which point most of the "minnows" have already been knocked out.

It's obvious to everyone here that you know nothing about basketball, but I feel it's my duty to point out to those who don't follow European football that you know even less about it. Might want to use your quarantine time to find a new hobby.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

All of England doesn't stop and watch the early rounds of the FA Cup because: 1) most of the games aren't televised and 2) most people wouldn't care even if they were because the big clubs don't play. Networks only pick a certain number of matches to broadcast and they tend to just follow the big clubs once they enter the competition, at which point most of the "minnows" have already been knocked out.

It's obvious to everyone here that you know nothing about basketball, but I feel it's my duty to point out to those who don't follow European football that you know even less about it. Might want to use your quarantine time to find a new hobby.

They stop and watch when a big club plays a minnow. They love that. That is what I was referencing by "early round."

 

[below0w]

They stop and watch when a big club plays a minnow. They love that. That is what I was referencing by "early round."

No, they don't. You don't have to double down on every idiotic thing you say, you can just admit you were wrong.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

They stop and watch when a big club plays a minnow. They love that. That is what I was referencing by "early round."

Most of the times when a big club plays a minnow in the earlier rounds the games aren't even on television. The networks over there like to make money just like the ones over here do, and they know that showing a game between two Premier League teams will draw far more viewers than watching Man City's scrubs pummel some League One team.

The first round of games that Premier League teams play in is round three. From January's round three games, the BBC, which is the only free coverage of the FA Cup in England, showed Liverpool versus Everton and Arsenal versus Leads. The Arsenal - Leeds game was a Monday game and the only game played that day, so it's easy to see why that was picked. Also note that Leeds isn't a minnow, they are the league leaders in the Championship. Notice the other game they showed was one featuring two EPL teams.

Then there are also games shown on a pay channel, BT Sports. They showed Newcastle at Rochdale and Man United at Wolves (note, an all EPL matchup) on Saturday and on Sunday they showed Middlesbrough (a team that has frequently been in the Premier League) versus Tottenham and West Ham versus Gillingham.

So that's six games and only two of them feature teams that would be considered minnows. And neither of those two minnows played one of the big clubs. Note that they could have shown Man City - Port Vale, the kind of game that you think that they love, and they did not. Note that they could have shown Chelsea - Nottingham Forest, the kind of game that you think that they love, and they did not. And the reason for that, of course, is that they don't actually love showing those games, and the reason that they don't is because people don't watch them.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Most of the times when a big club plays a minnow in the earlier rounds the games aren't even on television. The networks over there like to make money just like the ones over here do, and they know that showing a game between two Premier League teams will draw far more viewers than watching Man City's scrubs pummel some League One team.

The first round of games that Premier League teams play in is round three. From January's round three games, the BBC, which is the only free coverage of the FA Cup in England, showed Liverpool versus Everton and Arsenal versus Leads. The Arsenal - Leeds game was a Monday game and the only game played that day, so it's easy to see why that was picked. Also note that Leeds isn't a minnow, they are the league leaders in the Championship. Notice the other game they showed was one featuring two EPL teams.

Then there are also games shown on a pay channel, BT Sports. They showed Newcastle at Rochdale and Man United at Wolves (note, an all EPL matchup) on Saturday and on Sunday they showed Middlesbrough (a team that has frequently been in the Premier League) versus Tottenham and West Ham versus Gillingham.

So that's six games and only two of them feature teams that would be considered minnows. And neither of those two minnows played one of the big clubs. Note that they could have shown Man City - Port Vale, the kind of game that you think that they love, and they did not. Note that they could have shown Chelsea - Nottingham Forest, the kind of game that you think that they love, and they did not. And the reason for that, of course, is that they don't actually love showing those games, and the reason that they don't is because people don't watch them.

I didn't say people would rather watch Man City/Port Vale than Arsenal/Everton or Pistons/Mad Ants over Rockets/Jazz but the idea of having these lower division teams have that theoretical chance adds to the romanticism of the tournament similar to the NCAAT. And if Rockets/Jazz is on ESPN but Pistons/Mad Ants is going down to the wire, you know they are cutting in and every bball fan in America is watching Fort Wayne. Then if they win and play lets say the Lakers, again in Fort Wayne, a game like that would be a national event. I am not an NBA fan but would make sure I watched that.

 

[Ski11585]

I didn't say people would rather watch Man City/Port Vale than Arsenal/Everton or Pistons/Mad Ants over Rockets/Jazz but the idea of having these lower division teams have that theoretical chance adds to the romanticism of the tournament similar to the NCAAT. And if Rockets/Jazz is on ESPN but Pistons/Mad Ants is going down to the wire, you know they are cutting in and every bball fan in America is watching Fort Wayne. Then if they win and play lets say the Lakers, again in Fort Wayne, a game like that would be a national event. I am not an NBA fan but would make sure I watched that.

You don’t watch regular NBA games between good teams. But you’re telling me you’d watch Pistons backups against some G League scrubs?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

You don’t watch regular NBA games between good teams. But you’re telling me you’d watch Pistons backups against some G League scrubs?

Absolutely. 1 and done. David vs Goliath. I'd rather watch that than a January game of Lakers vs Bucks

 

[Ski11585]

Absolutely. 1 and done. David vs Goliath. I'd rather watch that than a January game of Lakers vs Bucks

Why do you enjoy bad basketball?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Why do you enjoy bad basketball?

Drama. Storylines. Something is on the line.

 

[Ski11585]

Drama. Storylines. Something is on the line.

You honestly think there’s more drama in a game between NBA backups and a G League team than Lakers/Bucks?

Not only do you not know basketball, you have horrid taste.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

You honestly think there’s more drama in a game between NBA backups and a G League team than Lakers/Bucks?

Not only do you not know basketball, you have horrid taste.

For sure. Just as there is more drama between an 8/9 game of Arizona State vs Mississippi than Lakers/Bucks. And Pistons Backups vs Ft Wayne is a much higher level of bball than an 8/9 NCAAT game. I am not interested at all in a meaningless game of an 82 game season. The game simply doesn't matter.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Why do you enjoy bad basketball?

He doesn’t
He’s just too stupid to admit it

 

[Ski11585]

For sure. Just as there is more drama between an 8/9 game of Arizona State vs Mississippi than Lakers/Bucks. And Pistons Backups vs Ft Wayne is a much higher level of bball than an 8/9 NCAAT game. I am not interested at all in a meaningless game of an 82 game season. The game simply doesn't matter.

So you don't tune in to college basketball until March Madness then?

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

So you don't tune in to college basketball until March Madness then?

For sure. Just as there is more drama between an 8/9 game of Arizona State vs Mississippi than Lakers/Bucks. And Pistons Backups vs Ft Wayne is a much higher level of bball than an 8/9 NCAAT game. I am not interested at all in a meaningless game of an 82 game season. The game simply doesn't matter.

why do you watch the regular season in any sport then?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

So you don't tune in to college basketball until March Madness then?

Since Pitt has been bad these last few years, the answer to that question has becoming more and more, yes. I used to watch a ton of regular season college hoops but subconsciously I think it was because Pitt was a major player so I was interested in bubble teams, conference races, whose going to be the top seeds, etc. Since we've been bad, I dont watch nearly as much.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

So you don't tune in to college basketball until March Madness then?

In least partial (only) defense of SMF (probably for the first time)--

When you play 82 regular season games (NBA) vs about 31 regular season games (NCAA), the outcome of one random game of 82 is less significant to overall season success than the outcome of one random game out of 31--particularly if between two teams not in contention for the post season. It's the math. In addition, when the season is 82 games long, players tend to come to a random regular season game, particularly when nothing much is on the line, with a "just another day at the office" attitude. They just can't get emotionally up when things are so routine and the season so long. It's just the way it is. Such games for many hoops fans are more enjoyed for the aesthetics of watching talented players perform (weirdly analagous to appreciating a fine figure skating performance) than for living or dying (perhaps with nail biting) on the outcome of the game.

 

[Ski11585]

In least partial (only) defense of SMF (probably for the first time)--

When you play 82 regular season games (NBA) vs about 31 regular season games (NCAA), the outcome of one random game of 82 is less significant to overall season success than the outcome of one random game out of 31--particularly if between two teams not in contention for the post season. It's the math. In addition, when the season is 82 games long, players tend to come to a random regular season game, particularly when nothing much is on the line, with a "just another day at the office" attitude. They just can't get emotionally up when things are so routine and the season so long. It's just the way it is. Such games for many hoops fans are more enjoyed for the aesthetics of watching talented players perform (weirdly analagous to appreciating a fine figure skating performance) than for living or dying (perhaps with nail biting) on the outcome of the game.

Sure. I get that. Though I'll respond with the following two points.

1: SMF's comparison was a Lakers-Bucks game. Based on the 2019-2020 season, that includes the teams with the two best records in the NBA, two of the three teams most likely to win the NBA championship, and the two players that will finish first and second in MVP voting. If you don't think that will be a high intensity game, then you're lying. SMF wasn't talking about some random Tuesday game between the Magic and the Kings.

2: I feel like folks will often talk about the length of the NBA season and, correctly, say that players won't always get up for games. But why do we assume that college players will? You don't think there's games where Duke is playing St. Mary State directional school and half the team cares more about what party they're going to afterwards?

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Sure. I get that. Though I'll respond with the following two points.

1: SMF's comparison was a Lakers-Bucks game. Based on the 2019-2020 season, that includes the teams with the two best records in the NBA, two of the three teams most likely to win the NBA championship, and the two players that will finish first and second in MVP voting. If you don't think that will be a high intensity game, then you're lying. SMF wasn't talking about some random Tuesday game between the Magic and the Kings.

2: I feel like folks will often talk about the length of the NBA season and, correctly, say that players won't always get up for games. But why do we assume that college players will? You don't think there's games where Duke is playing St. Mary State directional school and half the team cares more about what party they're going to afterwards?

Well I can answer the second part Ski. In college see, they play for....."the love of the game". It is pure. Unencumbered by money and salaries. So yes, I believe these gosh darn kids lay it all on the line, every game for the pure passion of the sport.

I also believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Sure. I get that. Though I'll respond with the following two points.

1: SMF's comparison was a Lakers-Bucks game. Based on the 2019-2020 season, that includes the teams with the two best records in the NBA, two of the three teams most likely to win the NBA championship, and the two players that will finish first and second in MVP voting. If you don't think that will be a high intensity game, then you're lying. SMF wasn't talking about some random Tuesday game between the Magic and the Kings.

2: I feel like folks will often talk about the length of the NBA season and, correctly, say that players won't always get up for games. But why do we assume that college players will? You don't think there's games where Duke is playing St. Mary State directional school and half the team cares more about what party they're going to afterwards?

I wouldn't watch Duke vs St. Mary's State.

And I am sorry but NBA players don't play with the same level of intensity. Are they better? Obviously. But its a different style. Its laid-back free-flowing pick and rolls, threes, dunks, no turnovers, no offensive rebounds. Every possession is virtually the same. I do watch a little NBA regular season because my son has it on and I watch bits and pieces specifically for this. The defense and the rotations are pi$$ poor. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings. Sometimes I'll rewind just to see just how bad the defensive rotations are

 

[Ski11585]

I wouldn't watch Duke vs St. Mary's State.

And I am sorry but NBA players don't play with the same level of intensity. Are they better? Obviously. But its a different style. Its laid-back free-flowing pick and rolls, threes, dunks, no turnovers, no offensive rebounds. Every possession is virtually the same. I do watch a little NBA regular season because my son has it on and I watch bits and pieces specifically for this. The defense and the rotations are pi$$ poor. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings. Sometimes I'll rewind just to see just how bad the defensive rotations are

lol

 

[Ski11585]

I wouldn't watch Duke vs St. Mary's State.

And I am sorry but NBA players don't play with the same level of intensity. Are they better? Obviously. But its a different style. Its laid-back free-flowing pick and rolls, threes, dunks, no turnovers, no offensive rebounds. Every possession is virtually the same. I do watch a little NBA regular season because my son has it on and I watch bits and pieces specifically for this. The defense and the rotations are pi$$ poor. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings. Sometimes I'll rewind just to see just how bad the defensive rotations are

So you don’t watch games. Except the ones you happen to do watch that just magically have bad defense. Sure, Jan.