Absolutely no surprise that once they rid themselves of Sean Miller, they start rolling. If he can’t win big there, why could he win big here? Hint: he can’t.
Tommy Lloyd for President!
Tommy Lloyd for President!
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He did a great job of training those kids.
Miller has won everywhere he's been. Heck, he almost beat our best team ever in the Sweet 16 coaching an A10 team.
He sucks, underachieved at elite jobs.
Like everyone else. And failed miserably at both
Wining championships when you have the talent to do so is what makes you a great coach . No one wins without talent .
What differentiates college and professional coaches is the ease to retool at the college level . Alabama football can and regularly does gets multiple first round draft picks every yr whereas an NFL team one gets 1 . Duke and Kentucky bb get 2 or 3 high draft picks every yr . Maintaining success at the professional level is much more challenging .
No one can argue that Sean was able to acquire ($$$$$$) the talent necessary to win championships falling to do so says all you need to know about his coaching abilities .
Under Pitts watchful eye Miller would fail miserably.
What differentiates college and professional coaches is the ease to retool at the college level . Alabama football can and regularly does gets multiple first round draft picks every yr whereas an NFL team one gets 1 . Duke and Kentucky bb get 2 or 3 high draft picks every yr . Maintaining success at the professional level is much more challenging .
No one can argue that Sean was able to acquire ($$$$$$) the talent necessary to win championships falling to do so says all you need to know about his coaching abilities .
Under Pitts watchful eye Miller would fail miserably.
Like just how bad do you think Miller would do here? Honestly. Are we talking Stallings/Capel level bad? This is a guy who has won an absolute shit-ton of games. Easy places to win at, yea, but he won.
And the fact that he was able to pay players when it wasnt allowed makes him more marketable. He was at Pitt during the Golden Panther days and he understands what it takes. With NIL, he will find a way to get players substantial amounts of money....within the NCAA rules.
He’s proved that he can buy players no doubt , but will those voices that matter allow him ?
My guess is no .
Give JC a bagman there’s no reason to believe he couldn’t sign enough good players either . To boot you’d save a lot of money .
Letting Book take the wrap for his misgivings ruined his name in the Northeast AAU circuit forever. It’s why he is signing the deal to be an NBA assistant. It’s either that or coach out west
He still underachieved. His NCAA record is way worse than Dixon’s given his talent.
Why do you assume he will magically be able to find NIL money for Pitt hoops? You keep saying this without providing any evidence or any compelling argument.
Wait! SMF needs evidence for his outlandish claims other than saying because and cmon!
That means absolutely nothing. Capel knows how the game is played too. Where's all the NIL money from him?
You just assume that he has some magical talent and will be able to snap his fingers and convince these donors to pony up NIL money. "Because I said so" is not a convincing argument.
I don't think Capel wants to get involved in this. He's just waiting for the buyout. Guys like Miller, Wade, Pearl, they will move heaven and earth to find money for recruits and its legal to do it now.
I thought Miller did well at Arizona. Arizona isn't exactly known for winning championships. Arizona has only one National Title in their program's history. That number would be zero if Nazr Mohammued could make free throws back in 1997.
Arizona has only been to 4 Final Fours. They were just as likely to flame out early to the likes of ETSU, Santa Clara, and Miami of OH back in the day as they were to make a Final Four.
Arizona basketball isn't exactly known for greatness.
I mean, it’s only one of the top 3 programs on the west coast and went to like 26 straight tournaments but other than that yeah it sucks.
Makes all the difference when they have a guy who can really coach. Miller left talent but Lloyd knows what to do with the talent.
I don't see anything in my post that implied that it sucks. I simply stated that AZ isn't known for winning championships. 4 Final Fours & 1 Natty in their entire history.
We're making these determinations based on games played through mid December with first year coach?
I’m making this based 3 games I saw them play including where they destroyed Mich. watch their actions on O and how everyone knows their roles. The guy can coach, it’s clear and easy to see.
If a guy can coach he can coach. Anyone who knows anything about BB can see Lloyd can really coach. Just look at the improvement of guys on his team. Mathurn went from solid to an NBA player. Koloko went from 5 ppl to 13 while improving his FG to 62%. I could go on and on, but no use since you couldn’t see a good coach if he smacked you upside the head
I haven't watched Arizona this year & I wouldn't read too much into anything after a year or two, much less 9 games.
So you are commenting on a team you have not seen play or a coach you have not seen coach…SMH. 9 games is plenty if you have a clue about BB
Maybe so, but the as the saying goes, you are what your record says you are.
4 Final Fours & 1 National Championship in program history. That's it. Those results are not elite.
I never commented on Arizona's team or Lloyd as a coach. I simply stated I wouldn't read too much into anything after 9 games as a head coach.
If 9 games is plenty, then can we evaluate Tony Bennett by looking only at the 10 games Virginia has played this year?
If you dont think Miller is an instant improvement over this dumpster fire, there's something wrong with your brain.
Dennis Miller might be an improvement.
I made a similar point about a month ago... advocates for Miller were loud.
My take - what's the difference between he and Capel?
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