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Bad News For Paterno’s & Penn State??? Judge Orders Release Of Sandusky Settlement Records, LINK!

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Bad News For Franco, Paterno’s & Penn State! The Judge will Unseal the Sandusky Settlement records to the Media, they will be redacted to protect ID of the Victims.
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Judge orders release of Sandusky settlement records:
A Philadelphia judge has ordered the unsealing of records related to Pennsylvania State University's settlements with Jerry Sandusky's accusers, siding with media outlets that sought their release. The records, which are believed to include details of claims that Joe Paterno and other coaches first learned about Sandusky's sexual misconduct decades ago, will be accessible in 31 days, Judge Gary S. Glazer ruled Friday......"We applaud Judge Glazer's decision to unseal the documents," said Stan Wischnowski, executive editor of the Inquirer, Daily News and Philly.com, which were among the petitioners. "The public deserves to see the records about these settlements with the accusers as a potential means for getting closer to the truth.".......Before his death in 2012, Paterno denied any knowledge of Sandusky's sexual attacks on children, and his relatives and legions of supporters have continued to attack any such suggestion as unsubstantiated.
FULL ARTICLE LINK:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20160611_Judge_orders_release_of_Sandusky_settlement_records.html
 
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Bad News For Franco, Paterno’s & Penn State! The Judge will Unseal the Sandusky Settlement records to the Media, they will be redacted to protect ID of the Victims.
Excerpts:

Judge orders release of Sandusky settlement records:
A Philadelphia judge has ordered the unsealing of records related to Pennsylvania State University's settlements with Jerry Sandusky's accusers, siding with media outlets that sought their release. The records, which are believed to include details of claims that Joe Paterno and other coaches first learned about Sandusky's sexual misconduct decades ago, will be accessible in 31 days, Judge Gary S. Glazer ruled Friday......"We applaud Judge Glazer's decision to unseal the documents," said Stan Wischnowski, executive editor of the Inquirer, Daily News and Philly.com, which were among the petitioners. "The public deserves to see the records about these settlements with the accusers as a potential means for getting closer to the truth.".......Before his death in 2012, Paterno denied any knowledge of Sandusky's sexual attacks on children, and his relatives and legions of supporters have continued to attack any such suggestion as unsubstantiated.
FULL ARTICLE LINK:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20160611_Judge_orders_release_of_Sandusky_settlement_records.html

I wonder if the peddstate people I work with will take down his photos along with dumping the Duquesne beer down the drain...
 
Allow me to put on my "prediction hat", and predict exactly how this will go in 31 days:

(1) Whatever is in there gets released.

(2) It becomes a story for a few days.

(3) The "Paterno Loyalists" crowd - their behavior doesn't change.

(4) The "Screw Penn State, those people are worse folk than us folk" crowd - their behavior doesn't change.

(5) Groups (3) and (4) above argue back and forth. Nobody's opinion changes as part of this arguing. Nothing of value is created as part of the arguing.

(6) Those Penn Staters who are more focused on the future than the past (me) --- realize there are better things in life to be concerned about than that debate.

(7) The Earth continues to orbit the Sun. People continue to die, babies continue to be born. Life goes on.

Take the attached link, a good article from 11Warriors (Ohio State site), FWIW:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/2016/05/70687/this-again
 
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Allow me to put on my "prediction hat", and predict exactly how this will go in 31 days:

(1) Whatever is in there gets released.

(2) It becomes a story for a few days.

(3) The "Paterno Loyalists" crowd - their behavior doesn't change.

(4) The "Screw Penn State, those people are worse folk than us folk" crowd - their behavior doesn't change.

(5) Groups (3) and (4) above argue back and forth. Nobody's opinion changes as part of this arguing. Nothing of value is created as part of the arguing.

(6) Those Penn Staters who are more focused on the future than the past (me) --- realize there are better things in life to be concerned about than that debate.

(7) The Earth continues to orbit the Sun. People continue to die, babies continue to be born. Life goes on.

Take the attached link, a good article from 11Warriors (Ohio State site), FWIW:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/2016/05/70687/this-again
The Cult has the broom ready. That is one big rug you have at Creepy Valley.
 
"michnittlion, post: 1341558, member: 5996"]Allow me to put on my "prediction hat", and predict exactly how this will go in 31 days:
(1) Whatever is in there gets released.
True but it may include all the Settlements Records not just a few? If all, new allegations of not just 1971, but 1976, 1987 and 1988, and that conflicts with 1998 and 2001 Joe never knew until those years and did the right thing. If he knew before not once but 4 times before 1998 and 2001. It will become Bill Cosby type of World View Joe knew and whether fair or not, hard to refute by a World View Branding Joe Knew.

(2) It becomes a story for a few days.
Depends what is in there and it will be sensational for weeks not days in my view. Possibly Worse, just like the Movie Spotlight, comes out in Books that will be on TV Interview Shows, then Movies for years to comes? Not a Few Days by Years? Again, depends what is in the Settlements Allegations. I remind you allegations will become Public domain and the World review them as they please with no trials.

Penn State will also claim this proves the Insurance People still are liable at least from 1971 to 1992, because no such Clauses were in any Policies like later. It also gives the Penn State Current Leadership a reason not to bring back or honor the Paterno Statue and Joe as a Public Figure and Paterno's Lawsuit for Defamation and Commercial Disparagement will be damaged to go forward and that benefits Penn State & NCAA & Freeh too?


(3) The "Paterno Loyalists" crowd - their behavior doesn't change.
On Joe's Coaching will always be tough to ignore and say otherwise, but on Joe's Image, Legacy, and Reputation in running a Clean Program, that will be gone whether the "Paterno Loyalists" care to do will be ignored too. The World View will be Paterno deserves neither recognition or commendation. Just a guess, but we will see based on what comes out?

(4) The "Screw Penn State, those people are worse folk than us folk" crowd - their behavior doesn't change.
True, but they will have even more info to support their own beliefs and Society Values will support that Crowd far more than the "Paterno Crowd & Crows"! Bill Cosby even found innocent can't get his reputation back even if still alive to defend himself? Society, Public Commercial Branding, and Public Image of Success with Honor goes the way of Nothing To Be Proud of Anymore and Never Was since the Allegations are too horrific?

(5) Groups (3) and (4) above argue back and forth. Nobody's opinion changes as part of this arguing. Nothing of value is created as part of the arguing.
Spotlight won the Academy Award, and if Statue Of Limitations is moved to 50 Years or Removed, well, more cases come in and some may go to trial and then the Allegations could be used one way or another, but not good for Penn State in any case. If Groups 3 & 4 will never go away as you say, that only hurts Penn State in many ways.

(6) Those Penn Staters who are more focused on the future than the past (me) --- realize there are better things in life to be concerned about than that debate.
Agree, but unless they take action to condemn what happen and then tell the Paterno Defenders the University can't move on any,ore than Bill Cosby is able to have Corporations ask him to Brand their Products in anyway??? I'll talk Football with you anytime without bringing up the Scandal, but most won't, and even Franklin keeps saying he is not winning more due to the Sanctions.....well, he should move on too, and any talk of honoring Joe, just keeps bringing up the scandal?

(7) The Earth continues to orbit the Sun. People continue to die, babies continue to be born. Life goes on.
............And Penn State Success with Honor Era during the Paterno Era that may become the Paterno Errors Way whether fair or unfair. I still can defend Joe's Coaching, but like Art Briles Great Coaching, Baylor dumped that kind of Coach that cover up or ignored what is important in life, and that is not Winning Football Games anymore! Society values have changed! Anytime Success with Honor is brought up saluting Joe it is really bringing up the scandal as well and Penn State can't move on with that kind of slogan either.

Take the attached link, a good article from 11Warriors (Ohio State site), FWIW:
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/2016/05/70687/this-again
Very accurate, and means the Penn State Scandal continues to go on more than moving on, and the Penn State Reforms helped reduced Sanctions but Sanctions were still needed to improve Penn State!!!!

However even worse, the Baylor Scandal brought up and back the Penn State Scandal and how that will happen with every future Scandal similar to it. The good news is some cases will copy the Penn State Reforms while saying they were needed to correct the Paterno Era of Errors Football of Winning and ignite debates again and again! Only with an eye towards a Bill Cosby result, can't win or change images by today's and tomorrow values and can't accept anything good happen in Cosby past either? It will not allow Penn State to move on even as many let it go and move on their own.It will just keep coming back.

Even if we all want to discuss Today's Penn State Football or Pre-Post-Future Games like you said befor......it will turn into a Penn State to Ped State outrage. Even we can't just talk about Players and Coaches that have noting to do in the past. This is a shame especially since Penn State moved on with the Penn State Reforms that corrected the mistakes no longer relevant on future games!

Few care now and even fewer won't care if anyone loves Paterno anymore. While the Paterno Cultists will despair if they hate JoePa and and now them too. They will be drained of all energy and won't understand that Wins, Fortune, and Fame based on Slogans and not what they once thought Winning 409 the Penn State Way is now wrong in history?

Victims Matter Now More Than Coaching Hero Wins or Famous Entertainers Once Were High Flying And Adored Will Not Be Honored Anymore? The allegations will just exacerbate and modicum of understanding no matter what anyone of us says too.
 
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Bad News For Franco, Paterno’s & Penn State! The Judge will Unseal the Sandusky Settlement records to the Media, they will be redacted to protect ID of the Victims.
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Judge orders release of Sandusky settlement records:
A Philadelphia judge has ordered the unsealing of records related to Pennsylvania State University's settlements with Jerry Sandusky's accusers, siding with media outlets that sought their release. The records, which are believed to include details of claims that Joe Paterno and other coaches first learned about Sandusky's sexual misconduct decades ago, will be accessible in 31 days, Judge Gary S. Glazer ruled Friday......"We applaud Judge Glazer's decision to unseal the documents," said Stan Wischnowski, executive editor of the Inquirer, Daily News and Philly.com, which were among the petitioners. "The public deserves to see the records about these settlements with the accusers as a potential means for getting closer to the truth.".......Before his death in 2012, Paterno denied any knowledge of Sandusky's sexual attacks on children, and his relatives and legions of supporters have continued to attack any such suggestion as unsubstantiated.
FULL ARTICLE LINK:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20160611_Judge_orders_release_of_Sandusky_settlement_records.html
I fully expect to see Funco Harris wearing a sandwich board protesting in front of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette (one of America's newspapers) protesting this legal lynching while copies of the Philadelphia Daily News are being burned.
 
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Franco is not going to be able to defend or accept the allegations, and that is going to reflect on Franco, sad to say. It is hard to understand one has to walk away from anyone that was touched by this Scandal at least publicly.

Franco can tout Paterno's accomplishment and great things and deeds he did his entire life separate from any scandals and no one will want to listen or care and just say, let him rave so others know he is mad. This is not fair to Franco either, but neither was what Sandusky did to Disadvantaged Children? If it keeps up, his own Statue may be replaced by Harrison's Immaculate Interception at the Airport?
 
Franco is not going to be able to defend or accept the allegations, and that is going to reflect on Franco, sad to say. It is hard to understand one has to walk away from anyone that was touched by this Scandal at least publicly.

Franco can tout Paterno's accomplishment and great things and deeds he did his entire life separate from any scandals and no one will want to listen or care and just say, let him rave so others know he is mad. This is not fair to Franco either, but neither was what Sandusky did to Disadvantaged Children? If it keeps up, his own Statue may be replaced by Harrison's Immaculate Interception at the Airport?

The allegations if true and cut out carrying Franco still acts like he has is really sad ..
 
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Allow me to put on my "prediction hat", and predict exactly how this will go in 31 days:

(1) Whatever is in there gets released.

(2) It becomes a story for a few days.

(3) The "Paterno Loyalists" crowd - their behavior doesn't change.

(4) The "Screw Penn State, those people are worse folk than us folk" crowd - their behavior doesn't change.

(5) Groups (3) and (4) above argue back and forth. Nobody's opinion changes as part of this arguing. Nothing of value is created as part of the arguing.

(6) Those Penn Staters who are more focused on the future than the past (me) --- realize there are better things in life to be concerned about than that debate.

(7) The Earth continues to orbit the Sun. People continue to die, babies continue to be born. Life goes on.

Take the attached link, a good article from 11Warriors (Ohio State site), FWIW:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/2016/05/70687/this-again

You obviously don't get it and don't understand the gravity of what happened. I'll put it VERY bluntly since you seem to be mentally challenged. PSU SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING ANY COLLEGIATE SPORTS FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS, INCLUDING FOOTBALL, AS PUNISHMENT FOR THE CHILD RAPES COMMITTED BY SANDUSKY, PATERNO AND THE PSU ADMINISTRATION FOR OVER 4 DECADES AT PSU. Also, ALL OF PATERNO'S WINS DURING THE PERIOD OF THE EARLY 70'S UNTIL HIS RETIREMENT SHOULD BE VACATED.

The facts are the facts and the truth is the truth. Those young boys' lives are ruined forever because of PSU coaches, including Paterno, and the PSU administration. Now people like you and those who support the stand that you take are further ruining their lives by preventing justice to be realized.

There is no debate. The truth is the truth.The heinous crimes were committed and so far, justice has not been had except that Paterno is burning in hell and Sandusky is rotting in jail, where he belongs. Many others should be in jail (or in the case of Franco Harris, in a jail for the criminally insane). When PSU is no longer playing football and the fines are increased dramatically, then justice will begin to be served.

You want to focus on the future? OK, PSU's future should be a period of at least 10 years with no football. None. That's what your future should be. I don't understand how you can just dismiss all of those child rapes committed by PSU during these decades and think that the "punishment" that PSU has been administered to date is even close to being repayment for those crimes by your coaches and administration.

PSU football is not important, because as you said, "life goes on" with or without it. In this case, without it would be justice for all the people that matter.
 
The OSU article says the crimes probably had nothing to do with winning???? They had everything to do with winning!! This is Paterno we're talking about. He was a narcissistic ego maniac with obvious mental issues. If something negative could possibly impact his program in the wrong way, he covered it up. I'm sure he covered up more than just the child rapes during his tenure as head coach at PSU. This is just one series of heinous crimes he was part of. If this would have come out in the 70's, when it should have, he knew his tenure as coach was over and he would not have the opportunity to win more games.
 
I wonder if the peddstate people I work with will take down his photos along with dumping the Duquesne beer down the drain...
No. They will do what all good cultists and narcissistic presidential candidates do. Blame the judge.
 
Allow me to put on my "prediction hat", and predict exactly how this will go in 31 days:

(1) Whatever is in there gets released.

(2) It becomes a story for a few days.

(3) The "Paterno Loyalists" crowd - their behavior doesn't change.

(4) The "Screw Penn State, those people are worse folk than us folk" crowd - their behavior doesn't change.

(5) Groups (3) and (4) above argue back and forth. Nobody's opinion changes as part of this arguing. Nothing of value is created as part of the arguing.

(6) Those Penn Staters who are more focused on the future than the past (me) --- realize there are better things in life to be concerned about than that debate.

(7) The Earth continues to orbit the Sun. People continue to die, babies continue to be born. Life goes on.

Take the attached link, a good article from 11Warriors (Ohio State site), FWIW:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/2016/05/70687/this-again

All that is true. But it is pretty damn obvious the whole Paterno "success with honor" stuff was a complete fraud. And to continue to deny this is not doing yes the real victims any justice.
 
That was a good read. Thanks for linking.

It was a good read and obviously alot of truth to it. However, it also read from the prism of a college football fan. With the "okay, this is starting to interrupt my enjoyment of college football and all the good that comes from letter sweaters, bobby sox, cheerleaders and fight songs (and rape, and violence and illegal payments) and I am tired of having to hear about it."

So it is self serving.
 
Franco is not going to be able to defend or accept the allegations, and that is going to reflect on Franco, sad to say. It is hard to understand one has to walk away from anyone that was touched by this Scandal at least publicly.

Franco can tout Paterno's accomplishment and great things and deeds he did his entire life separate from any scandals and no one will want to listen or care and just say, let him rave so others know he is mad. This is not fair to Franco either, but neither was what Sandusky did to Disadvantaged Children? If it keeps up, his own Statue may be replaced by Harrison's Immaculate Interception at the Airport?

Joe didn't do anything that didn't serve himself, his family and Penn State.
 
Should prove interesting. I don't think any clear thinking person can believe Sandusky waited til his mid-fifties to start preying on young boys
 
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It was a good read and obviously alot of truth to it. However, it also read from the prism of a college football fan. With the "okay, this is starting to interrupt my enjoyment of college football and all the good that comes from letter sweaters, bobby sox, cheerleaders and fight songs (and rape, and violence and illegal payments) and I am tired of having to hear about it."

So it is self serving.

I want to be clear, I don't agree with everything in that article. I did enjoy the article, and it wouldn't have appeared on my radar.
 
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Just like your irrelevant program that puts 100 people in the seats!! PITT SUCKS!!
Well, the world will not be worried about attendance. It is about children becoming victims by PSU Alumnus, Coach, and Employee, of a Charity intertwined with Penn State Football Program, and for protecting the Penn State Football.

No one can defend it from anywhere nor make it go away by trying to attacking another University, another Football Program, and calling it The Penn State Way, no longer has any Value in Today's Society or at Penn State.

The Allegations are being released in the interests of Public Media Interests and due to a disputed Lawsuit between Penn State and Penn State Insurer,and not one Fan in any Stands at Pitt is responsible or at Penn State accountable.


Fans at Baylor University are accepting social values, norms, and not defending covering up abuse in the name of winning or to keep fans in stands, and that is on your twisted values?
 
A few things:

1) DId anyone think that these things would exonerate Paterno? Anyone outside the Paternos, Franco, Lubrano and the rest of the Joebots.
2) You can get Joe on video, giving Sandusky tips on how to sexually molest collies and the Joebots would refuse to believe.
The same can be said about OJ jurers. I have always said they are the same.
 
The allegations if true and cut out carrying Franco still acts like he has is really sad ..
I like Franco, and in time, will come around and accept the 2012 Reforms were needed at Penn State since they were not in placed when he was there or during the Paterno Era!
 
The nits will do 3 things, wbr:
  1. DENY
  2. DENY
  3. DENY
Not all at PSU accept denial but did create Great Reforms under a NCAA Monitor oversight and due to a Brave PSU Alumnus sending out an SOS (Salute Of Sara) and now even Baylor University took action to do the right things and putting Reforms on their own similar to Penn State.

Penn State can be proud they have become a Model of how to clean up a Football Scandal Program. Baylor is doing just that right now.

Clean up went wrong and how the Reporting, Allegations, and Settlements later!
 
Not all at PSU accept denial but did create Great Reforms under a NCAA Monitor oversight and due to a Brave PSU Alumnus sending out an SOS (Salute Of Sara) and now even Baylor University took action to do the right things and putting Reforms on their own similar to Penn State.

Penn State can be proud they have become a Model of how to clean up a Football Scandal Program. Baylor is doing just that right now.

Clean up went wrong and how the Reporting, Allegations, and Settlements later!

We'll possibly start to see some answers regarding that when the information gets released within 31 days as the article indicates.
 
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All that is true. But it is pretty damn obvious the whole Paterno "success with honor" stuff was a complete fraud. And to continue to deny this is not doing yes the real victims any justice.
Owtie nailed it, anytime anyone uses "Success with Honor" to defend Penn State or Paterno or the Football Program, that is the mistake made and send up a SOS.....(Save Our Slogan)!

It is not about Slogans but Abuse, and it happen at PSU and still divides PSU and time for PSU Alumni like Franco to help the healing, not keep dividing and defending a mythical slogan.

Change that Franco Defense for another SOS.....Salute Of Sara!
 
We'll possibly start to see some answers regarding that when the information gets released within 31 days as the article indicates.
The History of Unsealed Documents is one the brings shock, counter arguments, but makes sensational Headlines, and from Allegations, that leaves the True Judge being the Media on reporting it to the Court of Public Opinion.

The reason to Unseal Documents once agreed and paid to be Sealed was to avoid Public Disclosures in Trials where both sides have to prove or disprove them? Now it is about what is best for the Public Interests to know and once those records are released, the Public will decide and sometime Laws are changed to prevent future Abuse.

The Clery Act came about because Universities did not want to publish Crimes that happen on campuses and it was in the Public Interests to have access to Arrests numbers when choosing a University should any applicant feel that is important to them.

Penn State and the Former Penn State Insurers no longer care what happen, both made changes to protect them from the future, it is now about whom will pay for the past wrongs that is in the millions.
 
The History of Unsealed Documents is one the brings shock, counter arguments, but makes sensational Headlines, and from Allegations, that leaves the True Judge being the Media on reporting it to the Court of Public Opinion.

The reason to Unseal Documents once agreed and paid to be Sealed was to avoid Public Disclosures in Trials where both sides have to prove or disprove them? Now it is about what is best for the Public Interests to know and once those records are released, the Public will decide and sometime Laws are changed to prevent future Abuse.

The Clery Act came about because Universities did not want to publish Crimes that happen on campuses and it was in the Public Interests to have access to Arrests numbers when choosing a University should any applicant feel that is important to them.

Penn State and the Former Penn State Insurers no longer care what happen, both made changes to protect them from the future, it is now about whom will pay for the past wrongs that is in the millions.

It will help to make it clearer as to exactly "who knew what, and when did they know it". At this point, the reasons for determining that are also very much moral and ethical ones for those that are interested in such reasons.
 
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Pope Francis sent bishops and other Catholic Church officials a letter this week, telling them that they should prioritize the protection of children above concerns “such as the desire to avoid scandal.” The pope, who has previously said sexual abuse by priests is as evil as performing a “satanic mass,” delivered his message as the church attempts to improve its reputation and protection of children after years of sexual molestation cover-ups.

It was the SPOTLIGHT Movie Winning the Academy Award that was based on Book on Boston Globe Reporters that happen years ago, that led to this letter by the Pope this week.

Again, it was the Unsealed Allegations in Sealed Settlements. Penn State will handle the fallout and already took action to make sure it does not happen again. Baylor university is now responding too.

This is how it becomes in the Public Interests to reveal Allegations but lead to New Laws and Policies and how to change the present for the future.

The Catholic Church is responding to that Public Interests and making changes to resolve past abuse just like Penn State did, and Baylor is doing now, and the NCAA and all of CFB will address it too.

It won't stop the Headlines but will shine a brighter light from the Victims perspective and Society will react and judge it in a Court of Public Opinion, and later legislation.

This is the dilemma Penn State Alumni & Fans face, Penn State can proudly point out how it made changes to address the abuse past, present, and future, and are fine with that aspect.............. Yet, Penn State is still being attacked by its own Alumni like Franco and others and demanding Success with Honor was noble and great but it is the 2012 Penn State Reforms that corrected that image based on slogans that can't stand up to what happen to Victims.

Franco is misguided in my opinion and he is a good man, but it was the image and slogan that was misguided and can stand up to what happen, and one day he come to understand that Penn State had to address Reforms to correct the Penn State Paterno Era of Football for 409 Clean Up not 409 Record Wins.

In time, many will do what i concluded, I can separate Paterno Coaching on the Gridiron and acknowledge it as well as his other character traits that can be admired along with his humor and accept others criticizing me for saying it. We can just agree to disagree.

The same for Bill Cosby, I loved listening, watching, and laughing at all his prior entertainment, but it is tough to judge what he is accused of doing, the last 50 years either, nor can I stop or heal how his reputation will be judged in the Court of Public Opinion.

I just judge that using Success with Honor after seeing, reading, and linking all the Penn State 2012 Reforms that are now a Factual Reality overcomes any previous Slogan like Success with Honor or The Penn State Way!

Those are Public Relations Football Slogans that blew up under another one called The Grand Experiment!

It is the Penn State 2012 Reforms Today that are curing the disease of putting Football ahead of Abusers of Yesterday, and no PSU Defender can admit otherwise......Even if they blame others at Penn State today.

If The Pope can't hide from it and can only change it, the same thing for a Penn State Saint that has a Halo over his Head. No matter how unfair even I will have a tough time believing.

When those allegations are Unsealed, the Court of Public Opinion, Children Victims Advocates, and even Public Interests Legal Action may have that Mural painted over completely or put Sara Ganim on it to balance what happen at PSU.

It is going to be ugly and more attacks by even Franco won't be able to change it, until he embraces on his own, the Penn State 2012 Reforms are bigger and better legacy than anything else from Penn State.
 
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