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Biggest increase in attendance of any P5 team

Meh.
I'd be more enthused if:
A. Notre Dame wasn't on the schedule to artficially inflate it.
B. The attendance didn't decline for every game after the opener (save Notre Dame)
 
Pray tell, how does any game artificially inflate attendance for any team? I mean, do rivalry games that draw more fans from both teams articulate inflate attendance (as compared to games against FCS teams and bottom dwelling FCS teams)?
All games, for better or worse, count for all teams. Idiot.
 
Pray tell, how does any game artificially inflate attendance for any team? I mean, do rivalry games that draw more fans from both teams articulate inflate attendance (as compared to games against FCS teams and bottom dwelling FCS teams)?
All games, for better or worse, count for all teams. Idiot.
Well, when one game attracts about 15-25 thousand fans of the other team, or a bunch of bandwagon hoppers, I don't think it makes an accurate reflection.

I'd be more enthused if Pitt drew 50,000 for all six home games this past season, rather than watch it dwindle each game down to 40,000 for Senior Day.
 
Well, when one game attracts about 15-25 thousand fans of the other team, or a bunch of bandwagon hoppers, I don't think it makes an accurate reflection.

I'd be more enthused if Pitt drew 50,000 for all six home games this past season, rather than watch it dwindle each game down to 40,000 for Senior Day.
Baby steps.

Next year's Pitt-PSU game will set a Heinz Field record for college football, around 69k.

Here's my prediction for home attendances next year:

Villanova - 52K
PSU - 69K
Marshall - 50K
Duke - 50K
Georgia Tech - 50K
Virginia Tech - 55K
Syracuse - 50K

Average: 54K

Which will again put Pitt among the tops in percentage improvement.
 
Baby steps.

Next year's Pitt-PSU game will set a Heinz Field record for college football, around 69k.

Here's my prediction for home attendances next year:

Villanova - 52K
PSU - 69K
Marshall - 50K
Duke - 50K
Georgia Tech - 50K
Virginia Tech - 55K
Syracuse - 50K

Average: 54K

Which will again put Pitt among the tops in percentage improvement.

If your predictions were to hold true, that would be something to be more enthused over.
Excluding PSU, that would be an average of a little over 51,000, as compared to 44,000 this season.
 
Well, when one game attracts about 15-25 thousand fans of the other team, or a bunch of bandwagon hoppers, I don't think it makes an accurate reflection.

I'd be more enthused if Pitt drew 50,000 for all six home games this past season, rather than watch it dwindle each game down to 40,000 for Senior Day.

Hmmm. Well, WVU's last home game vs Iowa State drew about 20,000 less fans than say their game against OK St. Dwindling. So, I guess you shouldn't count OK St., right? Similar with PSU getting about 15,000 less for Buffalo than Michigan. I mean it is Michigan, which artificially inflates attendance, right?

If we have big games next year or in future years (PSU, WVU, ND, etc.), I guess we need to subtract those too. Funny, only Pitt has to subtract big games, but no other team does.
 
Hmmm. Well, WVU's last home game vs Iowa State drew about 20,000 less fans than say their game against OK St. Dwindling. So, I guess you shouldn't count OK St., right? Similar with PSU getting about 15,000 less for Buffalo than Michigan. I mean it is Michigan, which artificially inflates attendance, right?

If we have big games next year or in future years (PSU, WVU, ND, etc.), I guess we need to subtract those too. Funny, only Pitt has to subtract big games, but no other team does.
I don't really care about other schools.

As for Pitt, it's called perspective.
The game to game decline says quite a bit.
 
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I don't really care about other schools.

As for Pitt, it's called perspective.
The game to game decline says quite a bit.
Yep, I know. Unique rules that only apply to Pitt. Only Pitt must subtract big games from attendance figures.
And while we're at it, make sure to disregard all relevant facts too, like students being on break for last two games, mid-week games, etc.
 
Pitt averaged more per game in 2013, the last time ND was on the schedule (also had FSU).

I think citing ND, or any fanbase that brings a large contingent, as a factor is extremely relevant.
 
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Pitt averaged more per game in 2013, the last time ND was on the schedule (also had FSU).

You don't say. So, you mean to tell me that the more big games on the schedule, the better attendance will be? Makes sense, except when you then start subtracting the big games as somehow not counting.
 
You don't say. So, you mean to tell me that the more big games on the schedule, the better attendance will be? Makes sense, except when you then start subtracting the big games as somehow not counting.

I just don't think it's anything to pat ourselves on the back for. Especially when the attendance is inflated by a large contingent of opposing fans. Not because more Pitt fans show up.
 
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I just don't think it's anything to pat ourselves on the back for. Especially when the attendance is inflated by a large contingent of opposing fans. Not because more Pitt fans show up.
What chicken sh*t arguements. Some Pitt "fans" will NEVER be happy/satisfied.
 
I just don't think it's anything to pat ourselves on the back for. Especially when the attendance is inflated by a large contingent of opposing fans. Not because more Pitt fans show up.

That's because you are being rigidly critical in trying to turn a positive story into a negative. You could instead mention the fact that of Pitt's 6 home games, 2 were played while students were on break and a 3rd was a mid-week game, which really hurts attendance for families with children, fans who work during the week, and out of town fans (basically, most fans). Nonetheless, Pitt increased attendance more than any other P5 team, year over year.
 
And fell short of 2013 in the process. This despite Chryst being the head coach, Pitt going 6-6, Pederson being in place, no script, etc. Everything that allegedly drove people away still led to better attendance.

But I certainly can't wait for this article to be posted next year when attendance is back to 2014 levels and it gets explained away by pointing a finger at a coach or administrator -- just like when all the bowls passed Pitt up. It was all Barnes' fault, remember?
 
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And fell short of 2013 in the process. This despite Chryst being the head coach, Pitt going 6-6, Pederson being in place, no script, etc. Everything that allegedly drove people away still led to better attendance.

But I certainly can't wait for this article to be posted next year when attendance is back to 2014 levels and it gets explained away by pointing a finger at a coach or administrator -- just like when all the bowls passed Pitt up. It was all Barnes' fault, remember?
If you think next year's attendance will be anything other than an improvement over this year, you're crazy.

PSU will draw at least as much as the ND game did..... and the rest of the home schedule will draw more than the rest of this year's did.

It won't even be close.
 
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Yep, I know. Unique rules that only apply to Pitt. Only Pitt must subtract big games from attendance figures.
And while we're at it, make sure to disregard all relevant facts too, like students being on break for last two games, mid-week games, etc.

I see. And weekday games and students on break is an excuse unique to Pitt?
Point is, Notre Dame is an anomaly. Kind of like when players/teams rack up big stats against FCS teams.
(btw, Oklahoma State wasn't even WVU's most attended home game this year)

What chicken sh*t arguements. Some Pitt "fans" will NEVER be happy/satisfied.

I was happy/satisfied with the season itself.


That's because you are being rigidly critical in trying to turn a positive story into a negative. You could instead mention the fact that of Pitt's 6 home games, 2 were played while students were on break and a 3rd was a mid-week game, which really hurts attendance for families with children, fans who work during the week, and out of town fans (basically, most fans). Nonetheless, Pitt increased attendance more than any other P5 team, year over year.

It's not really a positive story. I mean, it's certainly better than saying attendance declined, but really, it's certainly easier for Pitt to have a 20% increase than, say, Michigan State. The bar was set pretty low from 2014.
As pittbaseball11 said, given the changes, plus a 6-1 start, one would have expected it to be better.
 
And fell short of 2013 in the process. This despite Chryst being the head coach, Pitt going 6-6, Pederson being in place, no script, etc. Everything that allegedly drove people away still led to better attendance.

But I certainly can't wait for this article to be posted next year when attendance is back to 2014 levels and it gets explained away by pointing a finger at a coach or administrator -- just like when all the bowls passed Pitt up. It was all Barnes' fault, remember?

You just wait and hope for attendance figures to not be positive next year. But no worries, even when they are positive, you will compare them to 2005 or some other year, or come up with some reason to subtract certain of the bigger games, or ... something. I have absolute confidence in you, "Pitt fan".
 
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I see. And weekday games and students on break is an excuse unique to Pitt?

No, my point is that none of this is unique to Pitt. All teams have big games (some more than others in any given year), so you can't subtract the biggest game just from Pitt's attendance.
And all teams have multiple games while students are on break and mid week games. Well, actually I take that back, very few teams had multiple games with students on break and had a mid-week game. Which makes Pitt's attendance increase very impressive.

It's not really a positive story.

This is where I stop even reading your comments.
 
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