Capel on XJ’s Tech
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Encourage him to move on. He’s a major part of the problem. Get Femi to shoot 200 FTs a day in the off-season and bring in a backup senior transfer for next season.
That a fireable answer
It’s an extremely odd answer. Didn’t Capel also get a tech?
I said the same when Narduzzi -said something equally stupid
you bench x for multiple games -
We are are losing anyway
Send a message
And yes - bench Justin too because his defense is so awful
There better be missing context here.
if he is blaming this monstrosity solely on Johnson’s tech, he is surely a poor excuse for a coach.
Yeah, but to be fair Johnson's technical came because he was over emotional after a big play in the game, and Capel's came because he got over emotional after a big play in the game.
Wait a second....
As the great Julius Campbell told Bertiers, Attitude reflects leadership
He’s not
It’s worse
He’s saying he has stopped coached Xavier because he isn’t listening anyway
No, but your post made hitting the ignore button a pleasure.
Agree. People always hate coach speak. And when they don't do it and are honest they hate it.
X is a poor leader and seems to be difficult to coach. I've been saying this for 2 years.
He admitted to stop coaching his most important player
I understand you’re slow on the uptake -
But he just said “don’t blame me - x does whatever he wants “
He didn't say that. He never said they stopped coaching him. Said whatever he is doing is not sticking with him.
As for Justin NBA players don’t play defense and that’s all he’s thinking about
He literally said he can’t do anything about x
The head coach said he has no control over him
which of course continuing to play him - means he faces no consequences ever
With that aspect correct. He never said he stopped coaching him like you said.
He is still trying to win games and we don't have the depth yet to bench x longer term. Maybe it gets to a point though where he just needs to sit and we take our losses and x moves on. Some kids just aren't coachhable.
Yeah I said that during the game last night -- Femi should start Saturday and X be his primary backup unless foul trouble or injury...Minutes 25-30 for Femi and rest to X. Femi's mistakes are freshman mistakes and poor FT shooting, but he is solid distributor and equal or better than X on dribble drives right now.
I am not saying Femi is the better answer or even the better player right now but we have to do something to get the good X back.
Ps. I'm more concerned about the continued lack of energy, especially on defense and them not being prepared to play every game. They have shown they can do it.
And that falls on both the players and the coaches.
And that falls on both the players and the coaches.
X hasn't started after the 2 games after he got his technicals and has had reduced minutes due to his foul troubles.
I guess you can bench him for an entire game as the next step to maybe get the point across but I don't think the fans would like that.
Let’s bring this to the real world . Have you ever managed people ?
I have -
Let’s say we have a standard operating procedure for our pharmacists to check medications - to ensure we have two sets of eyes on every medication before it it’s delivered to the floor .
now say a mistake happens - and the pharmacist skipped that safety check. I coach him to do it the right way . He does it again and again.
At this point if it don’t suspend him and move to termination -
It’s no longer his problem - it’s mine
x needs to sit for a full game
We are losing anyway .
Send a message to the team .
Them bench Justin when he literally fails to contest a shooter .
I don't think anyone who is watching the games would object to benching X. He is our best player, no question. Mentally he is one of our worst.
He hits a three when we are still losing and jaws at the bench, then fouls a guy in the back court after a bad play. Top players don't do that. He needs to feel the impact of his decisions.
These aren't isolated incidents either. He is averaging over 3 fouls / game , has fouled out at least 3 games and has at least 3 technical fouls this year.
I don't absolve Capel in this, the way he acts towards the referees I think emboldens our players to do the same.
I would sit Capel too, but not sure who would do that.
Yep. That 1st foul yesterday was essentially a temper tantrum after someone stole his candy. And as many of us have said you could see it coming.
I do manage people. And let's bring this to the real world.
You coach a basketball player, which isn't paid, and can transfer out of there whenever he wants. You are on the hook for overall performance or you will be fired as well.
You are also trying to bring wins so you can recruit and bring in better players and you don't have much depth behind one of your best players. You try to do everything you can first to try to coach that player, while also giving you the best chance to win.
Now, it's still not working, and I agree with you, maybe he needs to sit a full game. But this is far different than your original argument where you say Capel said he quit coaching X. He simply stated that whatever they are doing now isn't working. So maybe they need to change it up.
But this isn't a pharmacy, or a manufacturing business, or a law firm, etc. It's not apples to apples and there are other factors and levers. That's the real world.
I didn't think X was going to come back in the game but them Femi got hurt for a little.
I didn’t interpret that as stopping coaching him. Just that no matter what they do they can’t get through to him.
Now I guess the answer may be riding the bench. Which of course can’t be an easy decision but may be necessary. Not just for now but for the future.
And as others have stated we’re losing enough anyway. So it might be worthwhile.
Now I guess the answer may be riding the bench. Which of course can’t be an easy decision but may be necessary. Not just for now but for the future.
And as others have stated we’re losing enough anyway. So it might be worthwhile.
Then Capel needs to assemble a better team. The current roster was not forced upon him. He is the one that put this group together. I am talking about his coaching staff and current roster. The current configuration isn’t working, so he needs to fix it.
No shit! He needs better players. I think they actually have some decent players now vs 3 years ago. Now they need to build upon the depth. In order to attract better players he needs to start winning too. It's a difficult job. You aren't going to turn over the entire roster and recruit all studs here all at once. Especially when you aren't a blue blood. Yes, there are exceptions to the rule people can point to, and Pitt was one of those for the 2000s. But unless you are a Duke, or UNC, or someone like that, it is not easy. So you work with what you can bring in and try to build from there.
The real world is far more important
This is a guy getting paid millions to coach kids playing a game
His level of accountability should be 20 times more than ours
Nobody dies as a result of the team losing because a player isn’t listening
I wouldn't say best, but he is the most important.
I thought Femi was terrible last night. If X played 30 minutes last night, Pitt wins. Even with the bonehead plays and turnovers, they are a better team with him on the court. I don't know how you get through to him, but whatever they are doing isn't working.
What is your excuse for him putting together this staff that includes hiring his own brother?
Yes, the real world is far more important. We are on a basketball board talking about our basketball team, so I would think it would be basketball focused.
You totally shifted the conversation from the OP of "Capel admitted he quit coaching X" argument you started, which I argued it's not what he said at all. So we'll just move on.
What excuse do I need? He hired a staff that he felt comfortable with and trusted. That's how people typically hire. If it's not working out, he needs to make some changes to it though.
To paraphrase what you said earlier to me in a post - “No Shit”. Capel gets paid a lot of money and better start fixing the reoccurring issues because the clock is ticking.
The original comparison was right on. Capel has tolerated several members of his team completely ignoring instructions (as did players on Stallings' inherited first team) and now he's set the precedent that you can still start and play 35+ MPG regardless of whether you listen to the coaches. You don't think that also rubs off on Champagnie or Horton?
Capel could have taken a hard line stance on this and benched XJ either of the two previous years and potentially solved this issue and been able to win more games right now. Instead the entire fanbase is turning on him and he's coaching for his job the next two seasons.
Saying "we can't afford to bench him" when HCJC is 3-17 in February across three seasons rings entirely hollow. What even would it matter if he sits XJ the rest of the season and we lose out? At least by forcing compliance from the roster HCJC is imposing his will. Right now he's losing AND letting the players walk all over him.
I wrote the same exact things back in 2017 and it absolutely shocks and depresses me that Capel isn't any better at this than Stallings was.
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