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[upj87]

At this point, anyone who wants him gone is just not very smart. Yeah, maybe he isn’t great at running an offense and just let’s the players play. However, you cannot complain about too much other than that. This team has really grown up in just a few weeks and that is all coaching.

It is also why you don’t give up on a team after 10 games. Especially now with NIL and at least 50% turnover of rosters each year. Young teams will get better and so will teams with new players that need to jell.

at this point this year is not over....seems to me letting it play out to judge his worthiness would be the "smart" thing to do..

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I am simply amazed by the number of people who seem to think that the total number of wins that the athletic department gets in a year is a set number, and that you can simply take some from one team and assign them to another.

If we suck at football that will in no way, shape or form help the basketball team win. In fact it would probably be a small net negative. If we win at volleyball or soccer that doesn't stop us from winning at football or basketball too. We didn't have to go 3-9 in football to balance out the volleyball team going to the Final Four.

There is only so much money to go around. If we devote more NIL and other money to basketball instead of football or volleyball, the basketball team would be better. If Pitt decided to spend all NIL money and other resources on baseball, they could probably buy a College World Series appearance but it we'd go 3-9 in football and 10-22 in basketball because we wouldn't have any money left to pay those players.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

There is only so much money to go around. If we devote more NIL and other money to basketball instead of football or volleyball, the basketball team would be better.

And then when the football team sucks and all those donations dry up and there isn't any more money to spend on basketball or football or volleyball, then what?

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

What teams spend doesn't matter when you're comparing profits.

Football has made $41m more than BB in profit over the last 20 years. That's including the golden days of Pitt basketball playing in a shiny new on campus arena, and some terrible football years. The number has been 3-4x over the last handful of years.

Also, a majority of Panther Club donations come from football season ticket and parking donations. That's not debatable.

The total impact on the athletic department from football (when including everything) is likely 5x that of basketball. And that's a very conservative guess.

So we can stop this silliness and understand that good FB and BB programs are what is best for Pitt athletics. Not defunding one to prop up the other.

They can both benefit from winning. Football can take recruits to a basketball game and show them a good time on campus.

 

[NTOP]

This is objectively untrue. Pitt reported about $2M in profit from men’s basketball in 2021-22 - a season where, if you recall, we won fewer than ten games and played in a mostly empty Petersen Events Center. Pitt basketball turns a profit at a similar percentage to Pitt football during the ACC championship season - Pitt football makes more profit and more revenue, but also spends 4x as much as Pitt basketball. They both turn a profit at about 20% above expenses.

And that $2M in profit for basketball is including the “expense” of athlete financial aid - a completely fake expense that shouldn’t count against any program’s expenses. And it doesn’t include the revenue from men’s basketball that can be attributed to the ACC’s revenue distribution, which is typically regarded as being between 25% and 33% of the total.

I think hoops made a lot more in the 90s and later.