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Now that Pitt is lower than TCU on the basketball pecking order. How big do you think that splash can be?
 
It's going to have to be a HUGE splash hire, or there will be a lot of very disgruntled Pitt fans. Hoping we don't hire some assistant somewhere. This needs to be and must be a current, high profile, highly successful head coach of a very successful program for it to make sense at this point. Barnes' nuts are on the line now.
 
That's great and all but just where is all the $$ coming from? Not from donors, that's for sure.
The buyout $. It was 10 million. Even if they don't get all if it - that is a lot of money to put towards a new coach.
 
The buyout $. It was 10 million. Even if they don't get all if it - that is a lot of money to put towards a new coach.
For a "splash" hire? That will probably only cover THAT buyout. I hate to be a Debby Downer here, but this isn't an Athletic Department flush with cash. They've already spent (wisely) a lot on the football program. I'm just not sure where everyone thinks this $$ comes from.
 
PItt hoops generated a lot of cash for the program. The investment in a coach is small potatoes compared to the revenue loss at the gate and other related revenues associated with a poor team. They were starting to feel that a bit with the slide the program has been experiencing the last five years.
 
For a "splash" hire? That will probably only cover THAT buyout. I hate to be a Debby Downer here, but this isn't an Athletic Department flush with cash. They've already spent (wisely) a lot on the football program. I'm just not sure where everyone thinks this $$ comes from.
They were able to pay JD top 15 money in D1. Add $1M a year to that and you can get a pretty darn good coach.
 
PItt hoops generated a lot of cash for the program. The investment in a coach is small potatoes compared to the revenue loss at the gate and other related revenues associated with a poor team. They were starting to feel that a bit with the slide the program has been experiencing the last five years.
I don't disagree with anything you said but it still doesn't answer where the administration is going to come up with the money needed for something like this.
 
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The buyout $. It was 10 million.
For a "splash" hire? That will probably only cover THAT buyout. I hate to be a Debby Downer here, but this isn't an Athletic Department flush with cash. They've already spent (wisely) a lot on the football program. I'm just not sure where everyone thinks this $$ comes from.
Not many guys have a 10 year contract. We will be ahead in regards to the buyout $ for sure.
 
Not many guys have a 10 year contract. We will be ahead in regards to the buyout $ for sure.
If you're talking "splash" you can bet they have long term contracts. Are you kidding me? Unless they're thinking Steve Alford who just gave back his extension today. LOL.
 
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If you want Gregg Marshall, you will pay him Shaka smart money. 7 years at 21 million base, and he can earn an additional 700k a year in incentives
 
If you want Gregg Marshall, you will pay him Shaka smart money. 7 years at 21 million base, and he can earn an additional 700k a year in incentives
Everyone here realizes Wichita St really did not have a good year in a non-P5 conference, right? They barely got into the tournament. Granted I don't follow them closely but we just ran a coach out because of that.
 
Everyone here realizes Wichita St really did not have a good year in a non-P5 conference, right? They barely got into the tournament. Granted I don't follow them closely but we just ran a coach out because of that.

And 2 of his best players were hurt for the majority of the season.
 
Everyone here realizes Wichita St really did not have a good year in a non-P5 conference, right? They barely got into the tournament. Granted I don't follow them closely but we just ran a coach out because of that.

What is the basis for your assertion that Pitt "just ran a coach out". I'd like to see the evidence, as you've made this point or insinuated it several times across a few threads.
 
What is the basis for your assertion that Pitt "just ran a coach out". I'd like to see the evidence, as you've made this point or insinuated it several times across a few threads.
Read through this thread. I'm just connecting the dots as I see them. Clearly you disagree.
 
Read through this thread. I'm just connecting the dots as I see them. Clearly you disagree.

I have read the thread. I'm asking you what "dots" you are connecting. You are talking about money for hiring a new coach in this thread.

How did we run Dixon off? By not giving an extension or a raise? Did he earn any such additional consideration?

By lowering the buyout? Should we have insisted on him staying here if he told Pitt he wanted to leave?

I'm trying to figure out what evidence you rely upon for your opinion because as far as I can tell, there isn't any.
 
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Read through this thread. I'm just connecting the dots as I see them. Clearly you disagree.

It is the ultimate irony that the same group that made theories up about Steve constantly, and thought he was responsible for everything they disliked about pitt, are getting so pissed at you having a theory.

I don't know either way, but just found it funny.
 
It is the ultimate irony that the same group that made theories up about Steve constantly, and thought he was responsible for everything they disliked about pitt, are getting so pissed at you having a theory.

I don't know either way, but just found it funny.

Who needed to make up a theory about Steve? His job performance spoke for itself. It was right there for everyone to see.
 
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Now that Pitt is lower than TCU on the basketball pecking order. How big do you think that splash can be?

Pitt is not lower than TCU on the basketball coaching pecking order. Dixon is going to his alma mater (who are willing to overpay since he is their one real shot at a big-time coach) with much lower fan expectations, and he can recruit in TX which has slowly but clearly become a major hoops hotbed of talent. If he doesn't want to have to kill himself recruiting 4*/5* players all over the map (not suggesting that's true, just saying if) then being the #4 school in the state (and #6/7 in the area when adding Okl, OklSt, and LSU in) is a great place to be to get some local B+ scraps.
 
I have read the thread. I'm asking you what "dots" you are connecting. You are talking about money for hiring a new coach in this thread.

How did we run Dixon off? By not giving an extension or a raise? Did he earn any such additional consideration?

By lowering the buyout? Should we have insisted on him staying here if he told Pitt he wanted to leave?

I'm trying to figure out what evidence you rely upon for your opinion because as far as I can tell, there isn't any.
There are a lot of people involved in athletics in every school. Some work and some donate. Both have a lot of say in different ways. And who said this all started with TCU giving an offer to Dixon?
 
For a "splash" hire? That will probably only cover THAT buyout. I hate to be a Debby Downer here, but this isn't an Athletic Department flush with cash. They've already spent (wisely) a lot on the football program. I'm just not sure where everyone thinks this $$ comes from.
I'm not sure you understand the accounting, but Pitt gets the Dixon buyout AND doesn't have his salary on the books now. Chances are they pay a buyout less than what they get for Dixon. Let's say they are plus $1M. That means on a 4 year pact, they can theoretically afford to add about 10% to what they were paying Dixon and be even. So, that would be a raise for Sean Miller.
 
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I don't disagree with anything you said but it still doesn't answer where the administration is going to come up with the money needed for something like this.

This is how I look at it.

Dixon made good $ so the new guys salary will be:

Dixons salary + a bump up for the new guy ( splash money) = New guys salary.
The buyout $ will subsidize the new guys bump up (splash money) for a while.
The new guys bump up ( splash money) is the incremental $ add that PITT athletics has to deal with once PITT runs thru the buyout $

If the new guy reenergizes things he will be able to finance his bump up and PITT will actually be ahead financially going forward!

If that doesn't happen go to Plan B.
 
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I'm not sure you understand the accounting, but Pitt gets the Dixon buyout AND doesn't have his salary on the books now. Chances are they pay a buyout less than what they get for Dixon. Let's say they are plus $1M. That means on a 4 year pact, they can theoretically afford to add about 10% to what they were paying Dixon and be even. So, that would be a raise for Sean Miller.
Cool. And no one knows what the buyout ended up being but from all accounts it's nowhere near $10M.
 
No clue how this all came about. But it is odd. This is not Roy Williams leaving Kansas for unc. Not even close.
Has any other top coach leave a program they built to go to a dumpster fire situation, alma mater or not? Especially with a great contract, family that loves the area, kids almost in high school. Head scratcher.
 
Give me a break! If you don't have any actual basis or evidence for your opinion, just say so!
Maybe I do? The reality is NONE of us knows exactly what happened. You can take everything as it was presented or you could step back and think about why a guy with kids entering high school who makes plenty of money and by all accounts was very happy living here would suddenly leave. We all have our theories. You have yours, I have mine.
 
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Take this Pitt Law 04 vs PittGirl to small claims court it takes up to much space on here!
You both can present your evidence under oath. Lol!
 
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Cool. And no one knows what the buyout ended up being but from all accounts it's nowhere near $10M.
Cool. How does that make your assertion that it will only cover the new coach's buyout and not leave Pitt in the black? I know what Dixon's buyout was. Almost every buyout you can think of is lower. Even if the buyout for Dixon was lowered, it is likely to be higher than anything Pitt has to pay for another coach.

Obviously you are unbelievably biased on this subject (why? I have no idea) but your logic is way off base.
 
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"Monumental splash" sets the bar pretty high, but something that is necessary. As was pointed out in the interview, losing our Big East recruiting pipelines has really hurt so we need someone that can overcome that, and that is going to take $.

"Win at all costs" is something I can do without. I'm not suggesting Pitt be prudish on the level that I think we have been run under the prior administration, if for no other reason that I think the NCAA is a feckless joke, but I never want the embarrassment of something like UNC, Baylor, or PSU.

Here's a direct link to that interview:
 
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