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** “We built this city … we built this city on rock and roll!”

** Let’s talk about this afternoon’s game by harking back to this time 30 years ago, when the above mentioned inane ditty by Starship could be found hovering near the top of charts.

** Back in December of '85, instead of returning home to spout on about the game via the internet, that fun was left to me and a bunch of roommates in our McKee Place Estates habitat.

** On non-basketball days, sometimes we'd head to the Civic Arena to watch the budding magic of a young Mario, more often than not in a losing effort. But we always enjoyed the chant of “Chilli! Chilli! Chilli!” once the Pens tallied for the sixth time. After all, “the 7th goal was the Chilli goal,” and we all loved it when we received this free Wendy’s feast.

** Back at the Fitzgerald Field House, we watched as Coach Roy trotted out his four Top 50 recruits to score plenty of points, but not always win plenty of games.

** In the student section of Hoops games, there were times when those at the game would chant “WE WANT 100!” in the final minutes of a cupcake encounter.

** Three decades ago, almost 1,000 miles away, a young man named Scottie was building his resume to become a pro prospect from a Division II school.

** Much has changed in 30 years.

** The top spots on the charts are now held by Beiber and Adele, and 7 goals no longer gets anyone chilli following a Pens game. Truth be told, 7 goals are almost never even scored at Pens games anymore. The Civic Arena is a parking lot.

** But today, when the score built into the 90’s, none of the handful of students attending the game in the section at the Pete now known as the Zoo, started the “We want 100!” chant.

** And now, the Central Arkansas Bears, despite having moved up to Division I, sport no one near the ability of the aforementioned Mr. Pippen.

** In fact, I don’t think all of the Central Arkansas players combined would equal one Scottie Pippen. The Bears don’t really look to be Division I either, maybe more like Division III. Or NAIA. Maybe even high school.

** However, as recently as just last year, the idea of scoring 100 points in game, even against a team as unable as Central Arkansas, would have seemed like ancient history for Panther Hoops fans.

** And when Damon Wilson’s three fell through the net, the Panthers hit the century mark after already scoring in the 90’s three times previously in just 6 games.

** What’s important to realize however, is that this team isn’t necessarily better offensively that some of Dixon’s team in the past. This is yet to be shown, I would suggest. But they are playing faster, and today’s game featured 76 Panther possessions. In the past, even against cupcakes, Dixon teams consistently played games at 60-65 possessions.

** I remember the days of Smith, Lane, Gore and Aiken, and recall all too well the 1985-1986 season when that blue chip foursome limped to an NIT loss against a team that was then called Southwest Missouri State (they’ve since dropped the “Southwest”).

** Perhaps it’s the Panthers new found ability to score that keeps my faith strong that the fate of these Panthers will exceed the NIT berth of 30 years ago.

** We all know that not one Top 50 pedigree can be found within our current group of Panthers. Regardless, after a pair of games where we averaged scoring 98 points and a smidge under 10 threes, our rotation is coming into focus.

** It’s my hope that Sterling Smith and Rafeal Maia are truly beginning to find their form and their place. There’s some good evidence to think this could be the case.

** Before Sterling Smith signed with the Panthers, Dixon showed some real interest in Drexel’s 5th Year transfer Damion Lee, until he choose Louisville instead. I’m not going to try to make a case that Smith is the better player, but with guns such as Young and Artis, perhaps Smith is the better fit.

** The Panthers also wanted Charlotte 5th year Transfer Mike Thorne, but had to settle for Rafael Maia after Thorne chose Illinois. You’ll have a hard time convincing anyone the Maia is close to the player that Thorne is (despite Thorne now being out with a torn meniscus). However, it’s nice to see Rafael starting to string together productive games.

** Perhaps Maia is rounding into shape. Or maybe he’s finding his role. Regardless, the Panthers have certainly looked like a better team with him in the middle. But like I’ve said, it remains to be seen how good of a team that is.

** Smith and Raf notwithstanding, the big story of this game was Damon Wilson, our bluest of chips, who scored one fifth of the Panther's Benjamin today.

** By to my eye, there’s a noticeable drop off in the overall effectiveness of the Panther offense when Damon runs the point. I believe this was the case today as well -- that is -- until Damon decided to start taking over much of the scoring himself.

** And Damon surely can score, which understandably makes this Pitt fan wonder if a backcourt of Damon with James at times isn’t worth a look.

** This would especially seem to be the case with neither Chris Jones nor Cam Johnson yet finding their particularly consistent form. These two seem to be the only two pieces of the rotation that aren’t yet completely clear.

** On a personal note, I forgot to mention I’m about 40 pounds heavier than when I watched the Panthers during the 1985-1986. But one thing hasn’t changed, and that is how much I love Pitt Hoops.

** Another thing that hasn’t changed is that our Panthers still haven’t been able to sing a Final Four song in my lifetime. I certainly can’t say that I think this group offers a better chance at this goal than some of our other top teams. But it is fun watching the Panthers score all these points. And if I’m not mistaken, the team that scores the most wins. We’ll see.

** “Marconi plays the mamba, listen to the radio, don't you remember …”
 
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This Central Ark team is bad, but only lost by 3 at Rutgers, 17 at a pretty good Tulsa team and to Oklahoma by 43. I'd say we measured up pretty well.
 
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Chanting Chili was fun. Was able to attend one of those 7 goal games while I was at Pitt. In all, I went to over 20 Pens games in my 4 years at Pitt.
 
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Haha...I thought the same thing, but glad I wasn't the one to write it. Loved the dribbles, hated that song.

Had to pick a song that was memorable from that time, even if is was memorable for being a terrible song.
 
I enjoyed the game with my son. Too bad the bandwagon fans did not show up.
 
Had to pick a song that was memorable from that time, even if is was memorable for being a terrible song.
The song is better than Central Arkansas was. Haven't seen very msny 53 point wins.

And, we had a hlf-dozen shots roll off the rim that probaby usually go in. It could have been a lot worse.
 
** “We built this city … we built this city on rock and roll!”

** Let’s talk about this afternoon’s game by harking back to this time 30 years ago, when the above mentioned inane ditty by Starship could be found hovering near the top of charts.

** Back in December of '85, instead of returning home to spout on about the game via the internet, that fun was left to me and a bunch of roommates in our McKee Place Estates habitat.

** On non-basketball days, sometimes we'd head to the Civic Arena to watch the budding magic of a young Mario, more often than not in a losing effort. But we always enjoyed the chant of “Chilli! Chilli! Chilli!” once the Pens tallied for the sixth time. After all, “the 7th goal was the Chilli goal,” and we all loved it when we received this free Wendy’s feast.

** Back at the Fitzgerald Field House, we watched as Coach Roy trotted out his four Top 50 recruits to score plenty of points, but not always win plenty of games.

** In the student section of Hoops games, there were times when those at the game would chant “WE WANT 100!” in the final minutes of a cupcake encounter.

** Three decades ago, almost 1,000 miles away, a young man named Scottie was building his resume to become a pro prospect from a Division II school.

** Much has changed in 30 years.

** The top spots on the charts are now held by Beiber and Adele, and 7 goals no longer gets anyone chilli following a Pens game. Truth be told, 7 goals are almost never even scored at Pens games anymore. The Civic Arena is a parking lot.

** But today, when the score built into the 90’s, none of the handful of students attending the game in the section at the Pete now known as the Zoo, started the “We want 100!” chant.

** And now, the Central Arkansas Bears, despite having moved up to Division I, sport no one near the ability of the aforementioned Mr. Pippen.

** In fact, I don’t think all of the Central Arkansas players combined would equal one Scottie Pippen. The Bears don’t really look to be Division I either, maybe more like Division III. Or NAIA. Maybe even high school.

** However, as recently as just last year, the idea of scoring 100 points in game, even against a team as unable as Central Arkansas, would have seemed like ancient history for Panther Hoops fans.

** And when Damon Wilson’s three fell through the net, the Panthers hit the century mark after already scoring in the 90’s three times previously in just 6 games.

** What’s important to realize however, is that this team isn’t necessarily better offensively that some of Dixon’s team in the past. This is yet to be shown, I would suggest. But they are playing faster, and today’s game featured 76 Panther possessions. In the past, even against cupcakes, Dixon teams consistently played games at 60-65 possessions.

** I remember the days of Smith, Lane, Gore and Aiken, and recall all too well the 1985-1986 season when that blue chip foursome limped to an NIT loss against a team that was then called Southwest Missouri State (they’ve since dropped the “Southwest”).

** Perhaps it’s the Panthers new found ability to score that keeps my faith strong that the fate of these Panthers will exceed the NIT berth of 30 years ago.

** We all know that not one Top 50 pedigree can be found within our current group of Panthers. Regardless, after a pair of games where we averaged scoring 98 points and a smidge under 10 threes, our rotation is coming into focus.

** It’s my hope that Sterling Smith and Rafeal Maia are truly beginning to find their form and their place. There’s some good evidence to think this could be the case.

** Before Sterling Smith signed with the Panthers, Dixon showed some real interest in Drexel’s 5th Year transfer Damion Lee, until he choose Louisville instead. I’m not going to try to make a case that Smith is the better player, but with guns such as Young and Artis, perhaps Smith is the better fit.

** The Panthers also wanted Charlotte 5th year Transfer Mike Thorne, but had to settle for Rafael Maia after Thorne chose Illinois. You’ll have a hard time convincing anyone the Maia is close to the player that Thorne is (despite Thorne now being out with a torn meniscus). However, it’s nice to see Rafael starting to string together productive games.

** Perhaps Maia is rounding into shape. Or maybe he’s finding his role. Regardless, the Panthers have certainly looked like a better team with him in the middle. But like I’ve said, it remains to be seen how good of a team that is.

** Smith and Raf notwithstanding, the big story of this game was Damon Wilson, our bluest of chips, who scored one fifth of the Panthers Benjamin today.

** By to my eye, there’s a noticeable drop off in the overall effectiveness of the Panther offense when Damon runs the point. I believe this was the case today as well -- that is -- until Damon decided to start taking over much of the scoring himself.

** And Damon surely can score, which understandably makes this Pitt fan wonder if a backcourt of Damon with James at times isn’t worth a look.

** This would especially seem to be the case with neither Chris Jones nor Cam Johnson yet finding their particularly consistent form. These two seem to be the only two pieces of the rotation that aren’t yet completely clear.

** On a personal note, I forgot to mention I’m about 40 pounds heavier than when I watched the Panthers during the 1985-1986. But one thing hasn’t changed, and that is how much I love Pitt Hoops.

** Another thing that hasn’t changed is that our Panthers still haven’t been able to sing a Final Four song in my lifetime. I certainly can’t say that I think this group offers a better chance at this goal than some of our other top teams. But it is fun watching the Panthers score all these points. And if I’m not mistaken, the team that scores the most wins. We’ll see.

** “Marconi plays the mamba, listen to the radio, don't you remember …”
Love the song! Oh, the memories! Good stuff DT as usual.
 
I liked that song a lot and speaking of the 80's

Remember Sir Loin Restaurant in Squirrel Hill?? Place had the best fried fish sandwich ever
Isaly's was right near there and had great cones
Also how about the bakeries? Rosenblooms and Waldorf next to the Manor Theater. They had something called Gems which were amazing round desserts much better than a cupcake.

Sigh... now everything I mentioned is gone and Squirrel Hill (Forbes)is almost completely different. Oh wait, Eat N' Park is still there along with a few good Pizza places. The good ol' days.

Oh and who could forget those halfcourt shots at the half at the Fieldhouse to win "2 Usair tickets anywhere in the Continental US" and the 3 quarter car shot. Miss it.
 
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I liked that song a lot and speaking of the 80's

Remember Sir Loin Restaurant in Squirrel Hill?? Place had the best fried fish sandwich ever
Isaly's was right near there and had great cones
Also how about the bakeries? Rosenblooms and Waldorf next to the Manor Theater. They had something called Gems which were amazing round desserts much better than a cupcake.

Sigh... now everything I mentioned is gone and Squirrel Hill (Forbes)is almost completely different. Oh wait, Eat N' Park is still there along with a few good Pizza places. The good ol' days.

Oh and who could forget those halfcourt shots at the half at the Fieldhouse to win "2 Usair tickets anywhere in the Continental US" and the 3 quarter car shot. Miss it.
I had you pegged for about 25 years old -- tops!
 
DT,

7 goals are not scored at Pens games....COMBINED anymore.

And once I think in the old days of the Lair I wrote a post comparing the importance of We Built This City with Sympathy For the Devil. The fun I had writing that was only topped by the responses to the post in actually thinking that I was not being sarcastic.
 
DT, you've only gained 40 lbs since college? We're going to need more restaurant threads. I'm guessing I'm about 7 years older than you, but I've added 60. But mine is all muscle, of course.

Poker, I loved Sir Loin.

Jefferson Airplane = Majors, Starship = Majors II. Well, that might be a little harsh, I think there were two of their songs I liked. But that sure wasn't one of them. Something with lyrics "plucked your body like a string" and the other with "Sarah, storms are brewing in your eyes". I can't remember the titles.
 
DT, you've only gained 40 lbs since college? We're going to need more restaurant threads. I'm guessing I'm about 7 years older than you, but I've added 60. But mine is all muscle, of course.

Poker, I loved Sir Loin.

Jefferson Airplane = Majors, Starship = Majors II. Well, that might be a little harsh, I think there were two of their songs I liked. But that sure wasn't one of them. Something with lyrics "plucked your body like a string" and the other with "Sarah, storms are brewing in your eyes". I can't remember the titles.

The former is from the Jefferson Starship "classic" called "Miracles," which wasn't at the level of Jefferson Airplane, but not altogether disgraceful.

The latter is "Sara" from the atrocious album "Knee Deep in the Hoopla" (which also included "We Built this City"). This was accomplished by the remnants of Jefferson Starship, now just called "Starship," still with Grace Slick, but without Paul Kanter who refused the use of "Jefferson" in the name.

And maybe it is closer to 60, but who is counting, right?
 
Thanks for that information. I grew up listening to rock from 1965 to 1975. I pretty much turned the radio off altogether by the early '80s, I was so depressed by what I was hearing.

I still come home from work and put an LP on the turntable. In the last two years I have managed to go from a dinosaur to a hipster, without realizing it until my nephew pointed it out to me.
 
I liked that song a lot and speaking of the 80's

Remember Sir Loin Restaurant in Squirrel Hill?? Place had the best fried fish sandwich ever
Isaly's was right near there and had great cones
Also how about the bakeries? Rosenblooms and Waldorf next to the Manor Theater. They had something called Gems which were amazing round desserts much better than a cupcake.

Sigh... now everything I mentioned is gone and Squirrel Hill (Forbes)is almost completely different. Oh wait, Eat N' Park is still there along with a few good Pizza places. The good ol' days.

Oh and who could forget those halfcourt shots at the half at the Fieldhouse to win "2 Usair tickets anywhere in the Continental US" and the 3 quarter car shot. Miss it.
I was just telling someone about the 2 USAir tickets last week.
 
I was just telling someone about the 2 USAir tickets last week.

One of the guys who sold programs was a friend of mine who was on the baseball team. He'd often have one on the "lucky programs" stashed away, and he'd give it to me. So during that time, about 5 different friends of mine were able to take the half court shot for the USAir tickets.
 
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How about Winkies, the fish sandwich (obviously I like fish) was good and so were the shakes!

And George Aikens, right there near the O.
 
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One of the guys who sold programs was a friend of mine who was on the baseball team. He'd often have one on the "lucky programs" stashed away, and he'd give it to me. So during that time, about 5 different friends of mine were able to take the half court shot for the USAir tickets.
I hope you had a chance to try a couple of times.
 
I liked that song a lot and speaking of the 80's

Remember Sir Loin Restaurant in Squirrel Hill?? Place had the best fried fish sandwich ever
Isaly's was right near there and had great cones
Also how about the bakeries? Rosenblooms and Waldorf next to the Manor Theater. They had something called Gems which were amazing round desserts much better than a cupcake.

Sigh... now everything I mentioned is gone and Squirrel Hill (Forbes)is almost completely different. Oh wait, Eat N' Park is still there along with a few good Pizza places. The good ol' days.

Oh and who could forget those halfcourt shots at the half at the Fieldhouse to win "2 Usair tickets anywhere in the Continental US" and the 3 quarter car shot. Miss it.
I believe it was the last home game in the mid 90's; two people made the half court shot & someone hit the 3/4 court shot.

After someone won car, I don't believe it was ever part of the halftime contests.
 
I believe it was the last home game in the mid 90's; two people made the half court shot & someone hit the 3/4 court shot.

After someone won car, I don't believe it was ever part of the halftime contests.

I remember the game with the 3/4 court shot for the car fairly well, as it was the very last home game of my undergrad years -- 1988 -- a loss against Seton Hall.
 
I remember the game with the 3/4 court shot for the car fairly well, as it was the very last home game of my undergrad years -- 1988 -- a loss against Seton Hall.
Was that "The Panther Fan Van?"

I remember the "O" used to have a 2 x 6-pack special on either Stroh's or Pabst for sonething like 4 bucks on Thursday nights. We had a group of guys who always picked up one each and we played penny-ante poker until the beer ran out, cheating more outrageously as the night went on. Friday morning classes were often either skipped or pretty foggy....
 
Was that "The Panther Fan Van?"

I remember the "O" used to have a 2 x 6-pack special on either Stroh's or Pabst for sonething like 4 bucks on Thursday nights. We had a group of guys who always picked up one each and we played penny-ante poker until the beer ran out, cheating more outrageously as the night went on. Friday morning classes were often either skipped or pretty foggy....

One of our best Hoops "traditions" games was going to "Winners Korean Food" pre game (down the stairs -- under the building across Oakland Avenue from Gus Miller. It was previously Chicken Charlies.

This "tradition" started when two of my friends went there before a game and realized they didn't ask for ID from anyone. So they ended up drinking a couple of pre-game pitchers with the Korean people eating there at the time.

This worked so well, at times, up to about 20-25 of would eat there before games, filling up every seat in the place. Beet Bulgogi was a usual favorite. The family who owned the place got to know many of us by our first names.

We kept this up for several year past college, until this turned into a Chinese place, then eventually closed I believe.
 
One of our best Hoops "traditions" games was going to "Winners Korean Food" pre game (down the stairs -- under the building across Oakland Avenue from Gus Miller. It was previously Chicken Charlies.

This "tradition" started when two of my friends went there before a game and realized they didn't ask for ID from anyone. So they ended up drinking a couple of pre-game pitchers with the Korean people eating there at the time.

This worked so well, at times, up to about 20-25 of would eat there before games, filling up every seat in the place. Beet Bulgogi was a usual favorite. The family who owned the place got to know many of us by our first names.

We kept this up for several year past college, until this turned into a Chinese place, then eventually closed I believe.
I finished at Pitt at night, so I never had those delights. My fav hangout was Gustine's, a decent place with menus, flatware and napkins. Somehow easy to skip astronomy or history of art classes to end up there. Never entered the "O" until about 5 years ago. I did go to the Black Angus a few times when my GF was an RA at Lothrop. PDG restaurant.
 
Anyone remember Game Mania, the arcade that was there in the mid 80's? My father used to take me there after I was in his office at Pitt to play Ms.Pac Man. It was near the O. You had to walk up a bunch of steps but man, I loved that place.
 
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