Increasingly losing all interest in college football. But I could see how others might like this ever growing playoff I guess.
CFP expanding to 14 or 16 teams in 2026
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The ACC is in PA and NY but it's not in Philly and NYC. That's HUGE. I highly doubt that Philly and NYC cable companies are paying in-market rates for Pitt and Syracuse.
The ACC has to do something. Basketball still has value and they are getting destroyed by the SEC. Incredibly, the ACC is 4-30 vs the SEC in basketball this year. We are much much closer to the SEC and B10 in football than we are in basketball. If we can get UConn, SJU, Nova, and Gtown and each ACC schools get $1 million more per year for adding them, why not do it? Maybe also move the ACCT to MSG
one thing i like and i kind of missed it is that this could lead to an SEC/Big 10 scheduling OOC games. Both conferences will go to a 9 game conference schedule (Big 10 already does this) AND both conferences will use one of their 3 OOC games to play the other conference..
That's pretty impressive. Curious how that will effect Big 10 schools who already play Notre dame in the future..
NOtre dame has Wiscy, MSU, purdue, Texas all on future schedules, purdue and MSU multiple times. Texas and Bama a few years out too, multiple times..
I cant imagine a big ten or SEC school playing 9 conference games, another OOC game against the other conference and Notre dame. Dont get me wrong, i love that schedule but that's pretty brutal.
Lord almighty, pitt fans cry about playing 9 P4 games in a season, these guys would be playing 11.
That's pretty impressive. Curious how that will effect Big 10 schools who already play Notre dame in the future..
NOtre dame has Wiscy, MSU, purdue, Texas all on future schedules, purdue and MSU multiple times. Texas and Bama a few years out too, multiple times..
I cant imagine a big ten or SEC school playing 9 conference games, another OOC game against the other conference and Notre dame. Dont get me wrong, i love that schedule but that's pretty brutal.
Lord almighty, pitt fans cry about playing 9 P4 games in a season, these guys would be playing 11.
You think Pitt fans hate it? Wait til Franklin finds out he can't play dead meat for the first four weekends.
Just want to step in an point out that the ACC getting two automatic bids really flies in the face of all of the "ACC is just a dead man walking" BS we've heard for the past few years. The B1G and SEC aren't happily going along with this because it gives more incentive to an ACC school to leave. It's doing just the opposite. All things are subject to change but if nothing else, it adds some relevance to the conference's future.
i'd love to debate you on this but i just looked up PSU's future OOC schedule and well, i cant. you are 10000% right.
Someone will sit Franklin down and explain to him that losing a few games might make them more money and that his best win, in anyone's recent memory, will have to be Boise State.
hate to be on "their" side but if you look at how things are, its' not a bad scheduling strategy for them. all they have to do is not lose 3 games in the big 10 and they'll get in the playoffs. And that's how it is now, before this thing gets moved to 16 teams..
They can literally lose to osu and another big ten team, win their joke of an OOC schedule and they are pretty much guaranteed a spot in the playoffs.
I hate to say it but beating the teams you should beat, and losing to the teams better than you, works in college football.
You're absolutely right. They were openly mocked for their schedule and for being an imposter but they didn't lose any stupid games and mostly took care of business. They finally got their participation trophy.
Plus they are raking in big revenue for those weak OOC games, because they sell them out due to having the largest number of alumni of any university. Having one less home game wouldn't be good for them.
They have been playing 10 P5 games the past few years, so I consider that reasonable. I assume they won't be playing WVU or VT or Pitt if this arrangement with the SEC goes into place.
The bigger question from a Pitt/ACC perspective is whether ACC related rivalries such as GT-Georgia, Kentucky-Louisville, Clemson-South Carolina will go away if this Big10-SEC arrangement happens. I think it's pretty much guaranteed that they will be over, right? That's horrible for college football IMO, just like it's a shame Pitt doesn't play PSU anymore. For example, the GT-Georgia and Clemson-South Carolina games were awesome this year.
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how does pitt get a participation trophy? Is making the ncaa tournament, with 64 teams, "getting a participation trophy?"
i dont know about you but i would absolutely dream of being in the football playoffs.. call it what ever you want, beats the hell out of losing the last 6 games and being in the "i've never heard of that bowl" game we seem to find ourselves in annually.
I have to figure that they are pretty happy with the way last season played out. We would all kill here to lose in a national semi-final game.
The disparaging of Franklin here is misguided. He's unlikeable at times, but he's doing precisely what he's been hired to do.
if we had a season like them last fall, that would be our greatest season of football dating back to 1976,
I thought we were still talking about PSU. They get one for getting a spot in the playoff.
Yes. They are hanging a banner for their remarkable season. It reads:
Penn State Football 2024-25
Beat Boise State in a Quarterfinal Game in Suburban Phoenix.
The magical run of that team will live on forever. Who will forget their comeback at Minnesota or beating Illinois on Saturday Night Football. What about beating SMU in front of 75K hardcore fans who braved the elements? Pure greatness.
yep, they have a ceiling and he's hit it. Joe's record vs top5 sucked as well.
What has Franklin done on the football field? Most Saturday's he has an overwhelming talent advantage and at least double the budget of whoever they play. Craps the bed when he plays anyone that's close. I mean, the bar hasn't been set that high when the fan base just sort of mutters around about losing to ND.
Whatever. They are going to make the playoffs every single damned year. What exactly is the bar around here?
First four weekends? Heck, if their conference schedule works out it could be more like seven or eight.
You’d have to add Marquette and Providence too….why not a 16 to 20 team bb league???
1) Because the ACC already has a 16-20 team basketball league. Adding those four Big East schools pushes the conference to 22 members if you include Notre Dame.
2) Any expansion involving Big East basketball schools would need to be quality over quantity due to diminishing returns related to additional revenue. I’m not even sure ESPN would increase the contract pro-rata for those four, let alone Marquette and Providence.
Providence: definitely not. No market
Marquette: maybe but probably not
22 teams
Play 20 teams once, meaning there's 1 team you won't play every 21 years. An exception for the following protected rivalries, which get 2 matchups per year:
Duke/UNC
UVa/VT
Miami/FSU
Cal/Stan
Syr/Gtown
Maybe Nova/Gtown and UConn/SJU
Those teams would play 18 teams once, 1 team twice and not play 2 teams.
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Cool... they should just have every team. Play each week, have teams go out each week and feed them to the lions.
At this point, who really cares.
It is ironic now......that the players get paid, and in some cases big money, that there is no longer this concern of "playing too many games". Continued expansion, and I am not totally opposed, but now what it does is make whatever bowls that are left the NIT tourney.
considering NIL and its transfer portal cousin and silly expanded playoffs as a cash grab the NCAA is going to "more money" themselves out of existence and take the sports with them...Already have the "get off my lawn" old-timers like myself on the brink of just bailing on it...
NCAA has no authority over the College Football Playoff and never has. The NCAA's mistakes in NIL and transfers are they waited too long to do something themselves and were beaten to the punch by state legislation (NIL) and court rulings.
Fair enough Poindexter, I was using the term NCAA interchangeably with college sports in an in general context and that greed and money will be its undoing regardless of who got the first punch in...my bad.
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