Chances of Jeter...

[raleighpanther]

winding up at Pitt?

He is a good developmental player, but I was never as high on him as some. Don't get me wrong, I would have liked to see him commit to Pitt, but if he wasn't local, most of us wouldn't have cared as much. As some have pointed out, he isn't quick off of the ball, so he was going to get moved inside and asked to put on a lot of weight. There are other options for that.

But, to my question: here is a kid who was loving Narduzzi and Pitt for a long time. He got blown away by his visit to ND, and couldn't say no. He moved up his commitment date, likely because that spot was going to disappear if he didn't commit sooner rather than later. Point is, this all happened pretty quickly. Will he start to second guess this rather quick decision over the next month or so?

I don't know, maybe there is a 10-15% chance it will happen. Again, I'm not that into seeing it happen at this point, I'm just curious if it might happen because of the way it went down. Others have mentioned that if he doesn't get onto the 2-deep pretty quickly that he might look to transfer to Pitt in a year or two. What do you all think of his chances of switching his mind this fall?

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

It's probably not a crazy thought. It does sound like if he wanted to go there he needed to make a decision. Once he feels out from under the pressure and the emotion dies down he might look back and reevaluate.

 

[mvk112]

The same people blowing off Jeter and downplaying this loss will be trumpeting it up and praising Narduzzi if Jeter does happen to flip back.

This is a kid that this staff probably should've closed on awhile ago. He's a good kid, he's local, he's talented, and his brother is here already and seems to enjoy it here.

Who knows what will come of Jeter anymore than any other 17 year old kid who has been bigger than most of his competition his entire life, but this is indeed a kid that should've ended up at Pitt, and would've helped upgrade the talent. The same could be said of Lugg, Adams, and Hinish as well.

 

[Pantherman43]

This is a kid that this staff probably should've closed on awhile ago.

If he wanted to be at Pitt I think he would have committed a while ago. He has been there enough and seemed to like Narduzzi and the staff. Seems to me like he was waiting for something better to come along and it did last weekend.

I honestly don't know what else the staff could have possibly done.

 

[franklinman]

The same people blowing off Jeter and downplaying this loss will be trumpeting it up and praising Narduzzi if Jeter does happen to flip back.

This is a kid that this staff probably should've closed on awhile ago. He's a good kid, he's local, he's talented, and his brother is here already and seems to enjoy it here.

Who knows what will come of Jeter anymore than any other 17 year old kid who has been bigger than most of his competition his entire life, but this is indeed a kid that should've ended up at Pitt, and would've helped upgrade the talent. The same could be said of Lugg, Adams, and Hinish as well.

Coaches do not close,the recruit does.I have seen coaches push to hard and the kid walks away.

 

[jameskroner3]

I wouldn't say it's very good. The West Pennsy kids are eating up what ND is selling at the moment. Strong bond going on there too with the other kids. Best Pitt moves on.

 

[thebadby2]

winding up at Pitt?

He is a good developmental player, but I was never as high on him as some. Don't get me wrong, I would have liked to see him commit to Pitt, but if he wasn't local, most of us wouldn't have cared as much. As some have pointed out, he isn't quick off of the ball, so he was going to get moved inside and asked to put on a lot of weight. There are other options for that.

But, to my question: here is a kid who was loving Narduzzi and Pitt for a long time. He got blown away by his visit to ND, and couldn't say no. He moved up his commitment date, likely because that spot was going to disappear if he didn't commit sooner rather than later. Point is, this all happened pretty quickly. Will he start to second guess this rather quick decision over the next month or so?

I don't know, maybe there is a 10-15% chance it will happen. Again, I'm not that into seeing it happen at this point, I'm just curious if it might happen because of the way it went down. Others have mentioned that if he doesn't get onto the 2-deep pretty quickly that he might look to transfer to Pitt in a year or two. What do you all think of his chances of switching his mind this fall?

Sounds like you're from the Steel Curtain school of player evaluation: dominant as a prospect high on Pitt, to developmental as soon as he commits elsewhere. Then the obligatory "I don't care about him, never thought he was all that great--but he might still end up at Pitt" post.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

At this point you say NO WAY! If down the road the possibility exists you look at it at that time.

 

[yourhired]

My guess is that Narduzzi took this one a little harder and if that door would open which I doubt it would close very quickly from Pitt's side.

 

[Muddy Puddles]

I'd say the better odds are that Angelina goes back to Pitt.

 

[IrishGoat]

I wouldn't say it's very good. The West Pennsy kids are eating up what ND is selling at the moment. Strong bond going on there too with the other kids. Best Pitt moves on.

No way. PITT should keep pushin. Pushin real good. What are u smokin' brah?

 

[PhPanther1]

If he wanted to be at Pitt I think he would have committed a while ago. He has been there enough and seemed to like Narduzzi and the staff. Seems to me like he was waiting for something better to come along and it did last weekend.

I honestly don't know what else the staff could have possibly done.

What do you mean he was waiting for sometbhing better...have you seen his offer list? You think Pitt is the best school in that list?????

 

[PhPanther1]

And what's with this shit about, if he wasn't from here, you would have never heard of him. Well, great observation as I don't know every HS prospect in the country regardless of ranking. Here's the kicker though, he is from here, he is good and was always slated to play DT and he is a BIG loss for Narduzzi if he stays at ND. As with any kid....see Sanders last year....Narduzzi is going to fight like hell till signing day to get him to flip and he should.

 

[rutgersdave]

If he wanted to be at Pitt I think he would have committed a while ago. He has been there enough and seemed to like Narduzzi and the staff. Seems to me like he was waiting for something better to come along and it did last weekend.

I honestly don't know what else the staff could have possibly done.

There are kids that like Rutgers and all but they don't commit. When the football factory come calling, the commit immediately.

 

[Jpripper88]

At this point you say NO WAY! If down the road the possibility exists you look at it at that time.

You say "NO WAY!" to taking Jeter, if you are Pitt? Lolno. You take him with open arms. He is 17. He is a very good prospect. He is local. You take him and don't care a lick that he committed to ND for however long it ends up being. I would be very happy to have Jeter come to Pitt and I think we have a decent chance at still getting him. Maybe 25%. I'd say 70% ND, 25% us, 5% UM or someone else.

 

[InigoMontoya1]

With the ACC/ND scheduling deal, it's possible the Irish play at Pitt over the course of Jeter's time in South Bend. Does that count?

Big Jack really bent the ACC over on that one!

 

[Las Panteras]

from all accounts....the kid spent 72 hours in South Bend and made up his mind on the spot.

While at the same time....building a 2 year relationship with PN and staff. That suggests to me an impulsive kid....which means he's pretty normal for a 17-18 year old......

And because of this impulsiveness....who is to say that if Pitt goes 9-3......say Wade commits.....more good press locally...and some convincing from Wade, Ford, his brother Sheldon......

Maybe he changes his mind.

Recall the two kids from Clairton and McKeesport....both 4 star defensive players (Simmons and ?????)

Both committed to Texas Tech. I am guessing that they may have been flipped if Narduzzi was here at the time and Pitt was posting a 9-3.

I get it....Texas Tech aint Notre Dame....its a long shot....but I am sure Narduzzi hasnt let that ship sail.......

 

[QuitCallingMeWanny]

If I have to repeat this ad nauseum to get it through your heads I wil......If a local kid doesn't want to come here then go beat the bushes and get another another kid comparable or if you strike it right better than the one who leaves...that is all part of recruiting.....the angst over losing a kid baffles me on this board....

 

[PhPanther1]

If I have to repeat this ad nauseum to get it through your heads I wil......If a local kid doesn't want to come here then go beat the bushes and get another another kid comparable or if you strike it right better than the one who leaves...that is all part of recruiting.....the angst over losing a kid baffles me on this board....

You make the assumption that they can get somebody better.

 

[raleighpanther]

And what's with this shit about, if he wasn't from here, you would have never heard of him. Well, great observation as I don't know every HS prospect in the country regardless of ranking. Here's the kicker though, he is from here, he is good and was always slated to play DT and he is a BIG loss for Narduzzi if he stays at ND. As with any kid....see Sanders last year....Narduzzi is going to fight like hell till signing day to get him to flip and he should.

PhPanther, the only thing that is "shit" here is your level of reading comprehension. I never wrote "you would have never heard of him". What I did write was "if he wasn't local, most of us wouldn't have cared as much."
And I completely stand by that. If he were a 4-star target from Virginia, the reaction to him committing elsewhere would have been mild disappointment, with an immediate 'next target up' reaction.

 

[raleighpanther]

Sounds like you're from the Steel Curtain school of player evaluation: dominant as a prospect high on Pitt, to developmental as soon as he commits elsewhere. Then the obligatory "I don't care about him, never thought he was all that great--but he might still end up at Pitt" post.

You referred to Jeter as "dominant". I've not seen him play; only seen a few highlight clips. But what I've heard from folks who've seen him play is that he is huge for a HS kid, but has never been dominant on the field, and people keep waiting for it to happen.
And even in his highlights, he appears to be slow off of the snap. If he reaches his potential, he could be great. But will he?
Anyway here seen him play in person?

 

[thebadby2]

PhPanther, the only thing that is "shit" here is your level of reading comprehension. I never wrote "you would have never heard of him". What I did write was "if he wasn't local, most of us wouldn't have cared as much."
And I completely stand by that. If he were a 4-star target from Virginia, the reaction to him committing elsewhere would have been mild disappointment, with an immediate 'next target up' reaction.

Your point that nobody would care that much about Jeter committing to ND if he was from out of state is well taken. But the bigger picture is that he is a very prominent recruit from Pitt's backyard, who has very close ties to Pitt, who has been recruited hard by our staff and our HC personally, who was expected locally and nationally to become a Panther, who spurned Pitt for Notre Dame. On top of that 3 other similarly situated players from this class alone have done the same.

Losing Jeter under these circumstances is a very significant negative for Pitt. It just is, plain and simple. It's not the same as losing out on a 4 star kid from Virginia or Illinois. Not from a perception standpoint or from a reality standpoin. We may well replace him with an equal quality DL, but if Pitt is ever going to get anywhere, we will need to win these battles on our own turf.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

[QUOTE="raleighpanther, post: 1589332, member: 4260"



But, to my question: here is a kid who was loving Narduzzi and Pitt for a long time. He got blown away by his visit to ND, and couldn't say no. He moved up his commitment date, likely because that spot was going to disappear if he didn't commit sooner rather than later. Point is, this all happened pretty quickly. Will he start to second guess this rather quick decision over the next month or so?
[/QUOTE]

This is the difference between a high school kid and a more mature person: a more mature person would've told the coach, "If you want me badly enough, you'll wait 'til I go home and think about it for a couple days." In that situation, a talented player has the power but is too naive to know it - or to use it.

But on the other hand, the kid's decision is not binding; he can still tell ND, "I got caught-up in the moment. Now that I'm back home, and I've had more time to think about such an important decision, I've had time to talk with my family and friends; I've decided to rescind my commitment."

But this is only relevant IF he really doesn't want to go there.........